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Living organic soil from start through recycling CONTINUED...
- Thread starter gaiusmarius
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sure, I say "around" because a little cooler/warmer won't make too much difference. I chose the word 'infusion' because one basically wants to infuse what they used to refer to as "the essence" of the plant in to their water
in some cases this may equal long chain compounds where you don't want fermentation to occur so, it's not an FPE ~same when you want the living micro-organisms but then you may want to bubble & feed molasses {like actively aerated compost tea right?}
we see the word "tea" in many instances & it means many things to different people
I make an AACT {~1 c vermicompost, ~4-6 TBS molasses ~4 gal water} bubbling 24 hours in my "bio-ractor" {a 5 gallon bucket with a PVC airlift and a disc airstone each driven by their own eco-plus comm 1}
alternately; I also brew a alfalfa/kelp meal nutrient "tea" in the same brewer
however; here I am talking about soaking something like lavender or mint for a foliar to do IPM or; as queried something like clover or alfalfa for a foliar or soil drench w/ microbiology intact {comfrey, yarrow or, chamomile, et al too FTM}
all this stuff happens in a range from ~65*F to not more than 85*F
the verbose response comes because there is a ton of advice pertinent to "teas" and compost tea & much of it seems ill-informed
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For those who are wanting to plant these nutrient accumulator plants in large numbers, g out and find a nice quiet area somewhere, Ive found a nice little place down by a river where no body goes, I already found around 100 comfrey plants there and I had around 70 root cuttings I took which I also planted there, I also have pulled up a bunch of yarrow plants and planted those too which I hope will spread nicely over the next year, dandelions will be planted too and there is already an abundance of nettles there so should have all I need all in 1 spot.. horsetail aint too far own the road so I will just leave that where it is 
Hows it going Coba?
I'm doing well man living the dream I made a fertilizer tea with some stuff I found growing in my backyard the other day air potato vine and elephant ears I'm not sure, but I think it burned my leaf tips so I'm playing with the ratios of that stuff because I used a lot of the air potato
how are you...
I'm doing well man living the dream I made a fertilizer tea with some stuff I found growing in my backyard the other day air potato vine and elephant ears I'm not sure, but I think it burned my leaf tips so I'm playing with the ratios of that stuff because I used a lot of the air potato
how are you...
JuiceDaLeaves
New member
What up everyone
So I haven't opened up or stirred my FPE in like a good week and now I went to use some for my plants and there is a layer of some sorts floating on top....
The FPE actually smells better than it did last week but now I have this floating layer of chunky stuff that could possibly be mold? Not really sure...
My question is, will it be harmful to my plants? And any chance anyone has any insight into what this is and if its super beneficial or the opposite?
Thanks!
So I haven't opened up or stirred my FPE in like a good week and now I went to use some for my plants and there is a layer of some sorts floating on top....
The FPE actually smells better than it did last week but now I have this floating layer of chunky stuff that could possibly be mold? Not really sure...
My question is, will it be harmful to my plants? And any chance anyone has any insight into what this is and if its super beneficial or the opposite?
Thanks!
JuiceDaLeaves
New member
Excellent =) It's white ... Will be stirring it more often -- Thanks again for the assistance!
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Downinthehollow
FYI if you ever cut yourself out in the field and yarrow is around, pick it, chew on it till its gets like a paste and then put it on the wound. It will stop the bleeding and will numb it a bit. Esp your mouth.
Landed on the organic soil thread. This is great
Define please...
fermented plant extracts
or
botannical teas
or
both
I can see your point to a degree from a soil standpoint, however I like to foliar botannical teas... Mints and whatnot... but thats more of an IPM thing....
a fermented plant extract is when you bottle up some plant matter in water {i.e. say a dandelion flower FPE} then let it ferment until it's done. In this fashion, you extract the elements & have a resource much like feeding bottled nutes {of known organic source though}
the problem being the loss of long chain compounds {for instance an alfalfa FPE loses the advantage of delivering triacontanol}
FPEs are much like using bottled soluble nutes
botanical teas OTOH are just bubbled for a short time & you can even add a little molasses to encourage the biology. In this fashion, you get the microbial benefits & the long chain compounds
you do want the botanical tea version for IPM as w/ say a botanical tea utilizing camphor for pest control is going to require the long chain compound "camphor" to be intact (that's your mint, lavender, eucalyptus et al}
i agree non sometimes botanicals do smell pretty good ~even an FPE can {some of them smell more like death}
lol; i been leaning away from soluble nutes
I like botanical teas where the intent is getting long-chain compounds & biology
the IPM thing is totally within the scope of techs i embrace
I would like an FPE for getting a soil mix going maybe {compost seems more like the way to go}
