your way out of line with with what your saying you act like anybody that grows weed and makes money with it is nothing more then a lowlife scumbag that is ripping everybody off I for one have a policy that anybody that is going through cancer treatment I will deliver their weed to them as long as their within 100 miles for free thats right I will get in my car and deliver it them personally and I don't ask for one cent. I doubt the government is going to do that because this country is one big corporation. I hope it isn't made legal to because the last thing we need is the government controlling it what they will do is make people that want to grow to sell is get a vendors license which will run I would imagine about 100k a year that will make it where mama and pops cant afford to do it then next thing you know they will be putting all kinds of stuff in it like they did cigs and I think they will crack down on most growers maybe even the personal grows because all it takes is for big business to go to Washington and lobby for control then we all will be sitting around talking about the good ole days before it was legal. Remember this is a country where when I needed to have a mole cut off because I have skin cancer I was told at the hospital that they couldn't do it unless I have health insurance or I have the cash to pay for it which is like 25k they told me they cant do anything preventitive but if or when I am sick from the cancer then they will give me care but then it's to late because once I am sick from cancer I am dead. This is a nightmare I live through everyday because right now I need to have treatment for some moles that I know are dangerous but I can't afford to get then taken care of which means I am living on a time bomb and hopefully I can make enough cash growing weed to be able to get treatment so before you go off on this bs about getting e real job or go selling harddrugs pull your head out of your ass and think for a minute not all of us that grow and sell are making loads of money doing it some of us are just barely getting by and I would hate to think that there would be nobody to help the people I help out because of the government taking control of it because when I deliver mj to these peeps they always tell me thanks man I don't know how I would of been able to get it without you and that gives me a feeling inside that is like nothing I have ever felt before for surely when somebody hasn't been able to eat for almost a month because of the chemo therapy and then after I help them out their able to eat again which is the difference between life and death when going through chemo therapy when I went through chemo some guy gave me a ounce of pot and I had went from 185 lbs to 140 in 2 weeks I couldn't even eat a orange thats how sick it made me but after smokng some pot I ate 3 trays of food and might of been able to eat even more all due to somebody giving me some smoke I couldn't afford it and either can lots of other cancer peeps because our great country lets insurance companies cut their insurance for no just reason just because our government lets big business do anything they like with no regards to peoples lifes it effects now put that in your pipe and smoke it pal!!!!!
this thread is all about "boo hoo for commercial growers" we.. I feel exactly that..boo hoo for you..god forbid you follow the same regs that everyone else does, which has been mentioned..those regs are barely a safeguard anyway
this means nothing to one who wants to grow their own..which is most people here..commercial growers can get a real job or move on to moving smack or whatever illegal enterprise you choose..I vote for the real job one, for the record tho..Wouldnt surprise me to see most commercial growers claiming to not haver unemployment and living off of the taxpayers..you know taxes..the stuff you dont claim on your illegal gains
Moonshine is an awful example. Its an explosive poison ffs.
Oh no, hillbillies aren't permitted to sit up in the woods and create toxic hazards....what is the world coming too!!!
You have no grasp of the fundamentals of this discussion.decriminalization is the way to go.
"explosive poison" do you get your info from the same folks that call pot "killer weed" ? only time alcohol is poisonous is if some moron drank wood alcohol, or let lead leach into the product by condensing with a damned radiator. well-made 'shine is no more explosive nor poisonous than a bottle of Bacardi 151 from down the street. safer actually, because almost NO ONE drinks it as it comes from the copper worm. that can be somewhat HIGHER than 151 proof (75.5% alcohol). as to "toxic hazards"...well, spring water, sugar, yeast & corn aint made it onto any EPA Superfund list yet...
"explosive poison" do you get your info from the same folks that call pot "killer weed" ? only time alcohol is poisonous is if some moron drank wood alcohol, or let lead leach into the product by condensing with a damned radiator. well-made 'shine is no more explosive nor poisonous than a bottle of Bacardi 151 from down the street. safer actually, because almost NO ONE drinks it as it comes from the copper worm. that can be somewhat HIGHER than 151 proof (75.5% alcohol). as to "toxic hazards"...well, spring water, sugar, yeast & corn aint made it onto any EPA Superfund list yet...
(got me again. damn! i just can't find a reason to argue with you...)i've had the 151. felt like poison to me...
regulation will be a nightmare. prison for pot is unacceptable.
(truer words were never spoken!)
who will read this riddle for us? maybe we should keep it illegal and lower the penalty to community service?
(i'd rather pick up cans as serve time. still no argument!)
ya know, individually humans are pretty smart. as a group we are dick tripping morons...
ANY alcohol is poison. If not for the liver metabolizing it...one shot of 80 proof anything...will drop a man. Thus, when a person is pumping more alcohol into the body than the liver can metabolize...they get alcohol poisoning.
But this thread is about cannabis, so.
This thread was started to bring government involvement to the attention of all medical growers. There are a few large distributors in Calif that know this already and are pushing for legalization and taxation of the product, as they are well financed and have their lines of distribution in place already. They will become the "Archer Daniels Midland" companies of marijuana. You will be forever on the outside.
This thread is just so you can understand what this means from a production and distribution point of view. It will be government regulated. In the same way that alcohol needs the "tax stamp" on the bottle to be sold.
But this product is an agriculture product. And with that, it will also fall to the USDA to regulate the growing and application of all nutrients and chemicals. They will also be charged with quality and proper labeling of the product.
It'll become a business. The same kind of business that many here rail against when it comes to "Big Ag". But the dirty little secret here is that Ag needs to reach economy of scales to deal with the government regulations, so Agri business is growing ever bigger.
The hugh growth of Agri Business is the direct result of government regulations.
It will happen to this industry too, as the government will not leave potential tax revenue on the table.
I say, to those who don't get what government regulation will bring to this industry, be happy growing a few plants for your won consumption, just like the tomatoes in your backyard.
But if you think you will make a business of this crop, you better be well financed and well prepared or you will get eaten alive and you will go back to supplying the black market, pretty much as happens now.