oneshot
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3'x1.7'x5' Lighthouse Hydro tent
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3'x1.7'x5' Lighthouse Hydro tent
Now I am worried the Blackstar 240 I ordered is going to be a piece of crap
GP73LPC, you really like the Welthink huh?
it will grow, it's just not gonna be as powerful as advertised. most aren't
don't throw it out...i like the Welthink just fine. check my LED Grow 1 LB+ thread in my sig. one of the 4 grows in that thread are Welthink WEX-C150.
lotta people recommend he Lumigrow's also. Expensive, but i really believe in the theory 'you get what you pay for'...
jackflash007
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only been runnin the new blackstar 240 for 2 weeks on a 90x90 flood tableNow I am worried the Blackstar 240 I ordered is going to be a piece of crap
GP73LPC, you really like the Welthink huh?
and i think there getting bad press here i love it
i have previously used a dual-spectrum 600w on same table and i know early days but been doing this a good ol time and the growth colour leatherness of leave amazin
i might get round 2 postin some pics just thought id throw my thoughts in there
peace all
If you call Lumigrow the big model can be had for 1100 - 1200 $ from what I am hearing and another member on here said he just got 2 for 1100 each. Much cheaper than advertised on the website. That is for the 330 watt ES with 5 yr warranty. So if anyone out there is gonna buy one make sure you don't pay full sticker! 
Reporting the actual current draw of a device is not giving something "bad press". I don't believe that anyone has said that the Blackstar won't work - only that it pulls about half of the power that it's name would lead you to believe. I'm glad it's working out for you, but did you think that you were buying a 240w fixture?
If you call Lumigrow the big model can be had for 1100 - 1200 $ from what I am hearing and another member on here said he just got 2 for 1100 each. Much cheaper than advertised on the website. That is for the 330 watt ES with 5 yr warranty. So if anyone out there is gonna buy one make sure you don't pay full sticker!
thanks for the heads up SOTF
a lot of people have asked me for recommendations on LEDS and Lumigrow is one of the names i always share...
jackflash007
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when i bought blackstar it said 240 equals 80x3watt 240led par output but at a lesser pull
so 135w I still expect par output to be 240 i dont care really what power it usin jus as long as i get the par output there is a youtube clip out there that shows what im tryin to say
peace
As I said before, I'm glad that you are happy with your fixture, but it still is misleading marketing. Industry standard for electrical devices when mentioning power is the wattage drawn from the utility, whether it be a microwave oven or a lamp. 400w CMH lamps aren't advertised as "600 HPS-equivalent watts" based on their PAR output - they are named by the wattage drawn. This is the same type of marketing that is used with cheap stereos - "1000 watt IPP" and then in fine print "12 watts rms". Perhaps you researched it well enough that you were aware of what you were getting - many people don't, and that has contributed to the poor reputation that LEDs have.
This is why this thread, and all of GP73LPC's work on the tables, is so important. People can compare the salient points of damn near every commercial fixture at a glance, and see what they are really getting.
For those of you that are interested, here are some shots of my Lumigrow ES330 undressed. The quality of the construction on these amazes me - as a retired industrial electrician, I've seen the interior of a hell of a lot of high-dollar gear. I've seen some equipment that approached this quality, but none better. The paint looks like automotive-quality, and the interior is every bit as good as the exterior. The heat sink is massive - the fins are 2" high, it has (3) 24 cfm fans rated for high static pressure, and being able to tune the spectrum/power should be a standard feature on all LED fixtures.
@ rives
OH So that's how you open one up huh
@ GP73LPC
Thats right mang! Always the best whenever possible that's my motto.
So yes these babies are built like a tank. Dropped one once and it didn't even hiccup or flicker or anything and didn't leave a mark on it since the paint it super thick and seems baked on or powder coated. I'm sure it is actually! Great LED lights that grow some great buds
After all these are used by real nurseries and greenhouses not just closet growers so they have to make sure the quality is there and you absolutely get what you pay for with these. Sunshine in a box.
Good stuff man +K
OH So that's how you open one up huh
@ GP73LPC
Thats right mang! Always the best whenever possible that's my motto.
So yes these babies are built like a tank. Dropped one once and it didn't even hiccup or flicker or anything and didn't leave a mark on it since the paint it super thick and seems baked on or powder coated. I'm sure it is actually! Great LED lights that grow some great buds
After all these are used by real nurseries and greenhouses not just closet growers so they have to make sure the quality is there and you absolutely get what you pay for with these. Sunshine in a box. Good stuff man +K
oneshot
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Yep. Light arrived and it's crazy bright. I accidentally looked at it because I didn't realize it was a delay fire and thought it was broken
Having an issue with an Amazon vendor right now with getting my Can33 here :/ I want to get sprouts going before I start posting anything though.
So yes these babies are built like a tank. Dropped one once and it didn't even hiccup or flicker or anything and didn't leave a mark on it since the paint it super thick and seems baked on or powder coated. I'm sure it is actually! Great LED lights that grow some great buds
Good stuff man +K
Now I really want one of these things after seeing that teardown and hearing this.
I'm really liking the look and features of the new Lumibar, they would be great for vertical-type grows with LED and they are 4 feet long and you can order them with the 740 nm far red 
I could see a nice like 4 x 4 foot grow tent or bigger with one in each corner standing up vertical and a bunch of extremely healthy full sized 4 foot tall Sweet Tooth plants growing in the middle of them just covered in huge frosty sweet buds all up and down the whole length of them and all the side branches. Would be a ton of light at 175 watts each that would be 700 watts total of kickass ALL PAR Lumipower! 
Damn I need to start selling these things Or get some free samples or something
I could see a nice like 4 x 4 foot grow tent or bigger with one in each corner standing up vertical and a bunch of extremely healthy full sized 4 foot tall Sweet Tooth plants growing in the middle of them just covered in huge frosty sweet buds all up and down the whole length of them and all the side branches. Would be a ton of light at 175 watts each that would be 700 watts total of kickass ALL PAR Lumipower! Damn I need to start selling these things
Or get some free samples or something
Yep. Light arrived and it's crazy bright. I accidentally looked at it because I didn't realize it was a delay fire and thought it was broken
Having an issue with an Amazon vendor right now with getting my Can33 here :/ I want to get sprouts going before I start posting anything though.
welcome to icmag
I'm really liking the look and features of the new Lumibar, they would be great for vertical-type grows with LED and they are 4 feet long and you can order them with the 740 nm far red
Damn I need to start selling these things
those are similar in shape to my welthink wex-c150. funny how lumigrow and some others have developed a longer led array and welthink has now developed their WIDE models that more emulate the rest of the market and lumigrow. i really see the market for both shaped arrays...
anyway, back to the lumibar, when you gonna get some...? you know you wanna....
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