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latvia here i come!!

chizzleonetime

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yeah i had a great trip and can understand why the latvians dont like the stag parties coming from the uk i was there thru the week and thought 'stag parties? where?' then when i went to airport too get back home my plane deboarded and was full of drunken louts shoutin about and pinching girls bums was kinda funny but out of order! but yea over all it was a gd holiday i liked it! will deffo be returning to the baltics soon !
ps EWG i was wondering wether yous guy's have a long enough growing season for outdoors? the weather was beautiful while i was there! i thought it was gonna be cold
 
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Guest

nope... non-autoflowers cant be fully be flowered out here... that sucks..
 
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you are lucky as hell. I would love to see the baltics before I die. I was lucky enough to see Russia, and that was amazing. do whatever it takes to go if you get the chance, but given only 1 destination, choose st petersburg..

omo i was also amazed by how beautiful the women in russia were, and how good the food was lol!

but jesus man, 2 pounds a bottle, i sure hope you didnt drink that shit lol. brought back a few bottles of russky standart with me, but c'mon man, leave the tourist rubbing alcohol alone ;)

oh, and although im sure its not a shocker... russian vodka is so smooth... or, can be, but probably not if you buy a chizzle 2 pound bottle ;) peace
 

chizzleonetime

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naa the vodka i was gettin was smooth as a mofo just didnt go too touristy shops for it , yea ive wanted too go st petersberg since i was about ten, lorax how did u find it there? and did you get a bud whilst there?
EWG shame bout the grow situation! where doesthe weed come from there is it grown indoors mostly or imported from ablbania etc
 
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wtf man.. st petersburg is not a part of baltics... fuck that russia.. please dont mistake russia as baltics... baltics want to get off those f*cking russians that are occupied our country and still dont leave when we are free.. .
 
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chizzle.. I didnt see any obvious smokers and was with fam the whole time, didnt have a chance. the ONLY time I saw anyone I really thought had bud was this teen that was peddling a bike type cart that has a back seat for transporting tourists around near Peterhof, north of st petersburg. the guy had painted a huge leaf on the back of the passenger's seat. I did PM Reaper before I went but of course got ignored ;) so, i would not count on buying anything there, and if you do, do it safely cause there are extreme levels of shadiness toward tourists..


EWF, i VERY obviously stated that i WANTED to go to the baltics, which clearly insinuates that i have not yet been.

I then continued to say I HAD been to russia, therefore FURTHER clarifyng that there was NO CONFUSION about russia being part of the baltics.

next time read more carefully, but thank you for your concern.
 
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fucking russians? man..i think you forgot to add "Heil Hitler" at the end of your post... k-
 
smarx said:
fucking russians? man..i think you forgot to add "Heil Hitler" at the end of your post... k-
+1
there are russians here too...take care at choice of the expressions,man!....and not generalise!....and than you better?
jump on left leg having bent head to the left and tapping on head on the right and repetitions on the contrary....
that are occupied our country and still dont leave when we are free.
too much urines in your head
 
no many history facts:baltic folk is practically single,who supports Hitler.Folk,which was it is not enough boldness to fight for own liberty.Instant is enthralled.Own occupation they have taken how a present of liberty from Soviet Union.Hitler for they is liberator and guide to better life.Probably,single country,where there is monuments for fascists.Many of men was a punishers and killed compatriots,wich waged war against fascism ...and women and children.
They have enother OWN history about this.
 

KharmaGirl

~Resident Puck Bunny~
Veteran
Smarx was defending Russians.... EWG is who initially made the "Fucking Russians" remark......
 

naga_sadu

Active member
wtf man.. st petersburg is not a part of baltics... fuck that russia.. please dont mistake russia as baltics... baltics want to get off those f*cking russians that are occupied our country and still dont leave when we are free.. .

Racism sux. :bat:

Seriously man, I don't know about the Baltic states in depth and how the Russians dealt w/ them, but I can tell you that the way the Russians dealt with South Asia was LOTS better than the way in which the corporate capitalists deal w/ South Asia. Well, for starters, the Russians didn't force countries who were allied w/ them to illegalise marijuana :joint:
 

waydee

Member
Never been but in my home town there was a yearly influx of young latvians, lithuanians and polish who worked on the fruit farms in the summer - always great to party with, incredible drinking ability! they get on well with the scottish.

And the girls are beautiful! there was always a queue of guys working the scottish charm on them :)
 

chizzleonetime

Active member
yeah i noticed alot of tension when i was there ! was reading something about there being pro nazi latvians and russians clashing ill have a look for the article when i got time and paste it
 
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naga_sadu said:
Are Minsk bikes popular over in Latvia today? I mean, they're made in nearby Belarus, right?

Minsk bike...i had one when i was 15. I even remember that we called it's as "makaka" hehe. Thank you for that good memories..

Seriously i have nothing against EWG who is just a victim of massive lie.
 

mpro

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hello Naga_sadu Hope the new year is treating you well. I just went over the kind words you sent me a while ago about traveling to India. Thanks again. I can't wait until we actually do get there. Most likely in a few years. Sell everything and start traveling. :joint:

peace my friend.

mp
 
naga_sadu said:
but I can tell you that the way the Russians dealt with South Asia was LOTS better than the way in which the corporate capitalists deal w/ South Asia.

Yeah, the Soviet Union was *such* a worker's paradise, wasn't it? Food shortages, no property rights, no freedom of the press, poor medical care, poor productivity of its workers, POLITICAL OPPRESSION ON A SCALE NEVER BEFORE SEEN IN HUMAN HISTORY, torture, gulags, exiles in Siberia, secret police, government informants, stagnant economic growth, a centrally-planned economy which singlehandedly kept the Soviet Union and its satellite nations 50 years behind the Western world.

Shall I go on?

Yeah, things are getting pretty Orwellian nowadays and we need to reassert our freedoms, but it's still a damn sight better than the "fairness" and "social justice" offered by those dumbass Socialists and Communists.

People keep making out corporations as the boogeyman and how terrible they are. Governments are responsible for the deaths of 170 million people in the 20th century. How many did corporations kill, imprison and torture?

Capitalism and corporations in the 20th century is directly responsible for the highest technological and economic success in the history of mankind. Governments are directly responsible for the worst oppression and highest body count of all time during the 20th century.

I'll take capitalism, small government and laissez faire economics anyday over the alternative.
 
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krustytheclown, believe me, mate, you're SOOOOO wrong on poor medical care in USSR... Soviet medical care system had its cons but trust me, friend, apart from being absolutely free it was always available right at the moment you'd want it (no damn stupid appointments weeks or even months ahead), personnel was WAAAY more knowledgable with tons more expertise then so called "doctors" in EU nowdays, never ever had I seen shortages with equipment or drugs (Latvia) and we had everything you'd imagine for a succesful tratment for everyone in every policlinic. We didn't live on chemical medicine, there was all necessery equipment to treat most usual flus and stuff (those nose machines with warming tubes, machines with chest and back warming pillows, quartz blahblah you name it). Some of equpiment like in dantist rooms was old, true, but it did just fine for us, I think. There generally was no rush about getting all the new fancy stuff - everything had its lifespan to go and everything new had to be tested well. Food was a zillion times better, mostly organic, much higher quality standards for anything. Western world has a loong way to go to get where USSR was in those regards, I doubt it ever will cos money is the name of the game what it is.

Food is still a lot better in any post Soveiet country, but it is all slowly but surely replaced by "safe" EU food standards or/and global-capital lies. Go buy some apples from china or american chicken fed on genmod soya, sure the standards are all met hehe I mean bought....

Now, I know everytime you pay a visit to a private doctor who doesn't know shit and just simply feeds you all the new crap chems you remember USSR free and working medical system and hate Soviets even more ;)

Peace
 
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naga_sadu

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Yeah, the Soviet Union was *such* a worker's paradise, wasn't it? Food shortages, no property rights, no freedom of the press, poor medical care, poor productivity of its workers, POLITICAL OPPRESSION ON A SCALE NEVER BEFORE SEEN IN HUMAN HISTORY, torture, gulags, exiles in Siberia, secret police, government informants, stagnant economic growth, a centrally-planned economy which singlehandedly kept the Soviet Union and its satellite nations 50 years behind the Western world.

Hey'ya Krusty.

Since this is a traveller's forum, I'll limit my observations from a travellers point of view (versus a political).

The food shortages came about during the Perestroika and Glabonist times (mid 80s). Before that, every department store was fully stocked. Each factory, for example, would have a grocery store, and you had at least 3-4 varieties of whatever produce you were buying. This was not only in Moscow and the citys but also in the "outer frontiers" such as Uzbekistan.

Sure, in a way you can say that there were "shortages" for luxury goods such as TV sets and a car- only if you wanted one for free. As a factory worker you did have considerable disposable income but the vast majority of Soviets spent their $$$ on travel and savings.

And quite frankly, is there freedom of press anywhere???

And speaking of tortures, gulags...the Soviets had them, which is a bad thing. But which country is free from the guilt of torturing its people unnecessarily? How's about Guantanamo bay? And speaking of the "secret police", the patriot acts which gives the gov. rights to tap peoples' phones and read e-mails isin't all that encouraging either. And lastly, doing commando style raids on medical mmj dispensaries and on cancer patients aren't all that sweet and dandy.

And the quality of essentials in the USSR was FAR superior. For example, I've myself seen a communal poultry in Termez, Uzbekistan. In a "communal chicken farm" for example, it was run by a group of 10-20 families. The chickens would be grown organically, in the open, and was fed grain. Nowadays, privately run commercial broilers use chrome shavings from tanneries to feed the chickens. Also, genetically engineered crap to make the chickens gain more weight. The animals are grown in fucked up conditions, and if you've visited a broiler, like Magnolia, you'll note that there's hardly enough space for a chicken to move. This for sure can't be good for your health.

And speaking of soft drinks (ex: Coca Cola), Soviet beverages didn't have corn syrup. And speaking of products from Pepsi Cola, there were pesticide traces detected that were 24 times the nationally permissible levels, here in India. Here's a read:

http://www.indiaresource.org/news/2006/2005.html

SOviet produce was free from such nonsense.

a centrally-planned economy which singlehandedly kept the Soviet Union and its satellite nations 50 years behind the Western world.

...only in terms of materialism & consumerism.

Also, the people in some of the "satellite states" such as Uzbekistan, Kazastan didn't favour what the West considers "development." During my travels there, I interviewed several people and they largely favoured a traditional agrarian lifestyle over a cosmopolitan one. However fucked up the Soviets were, they didn't impose industrialisation and forced modernisation on states and people that didn't desire them. But an Uzbek or a Kazakh who wanted to pursue life in a cosmopolitan environment was free to do so. For example, the notorious Shamil Basayev of Chechnya was educated in engineering in Moscow.

On the other hand, states where people favoured cosmopolitanism and modernisation (ex: Latvia, Belarus) were heavily industrialised. Except that the Soviet system was more accomodating to a vast array of locales. As a traveller, one thing I appreciated about the Soviet Union was the immense amount of cultural AND socio-economic diversities it accomodated. You saw a community of subsistance level farmers and at the same time, you saw a highly industrialised commune. They coexisted and neither system deemed the other as redundant and undeserving of the economic pie.

Even in a highly developed market economy like Malaysia, for example, you have people like the Penan live in slums. As in, the Soviet economy didn't impose this "one side fits all" notion of development, which our modern market economies are definately guilty of doing.

And lastly, to touch on the "poor medical care", that statement is as untrue as it gets. Even in Termez, for example, you had at least 4 speciality hospitals (ex: doing cardiac bypass surgeries) and they were free of cost. Sure you didn't have a hot looking nurse, but you got your medical care, free of cost. And the waiting period to see a doctor in a communal hospital was WAY less than the waiting period to see a doctor in any "community" hospital I've been to.

The typical "Soviet" hospital outside the citys looked bare by Western standards but they were manned by well trained staff. The modern day hospitals esp. in the "outer frontiers" like Uzbekistan look sleek w/ tinted glass exteriors, A/C, colour TV, hot looking nurses etc., but they're way overpriced and the skill level is seriously lacking.

In Uzbekistan today, there is ZERO speciality hospitals! There's one private hospital in Tashkant today, but they don't handle complicated cases such as heart surgeries. Such cases are referred to Norway. And I don't think an average Uzbek can afford flying to Norway...

Yeah, things are getting pretty Orwellian nowadays and we need to reassert our freedoms, but it's still a damn sight better than the "fairness" and "social justice" offered by those dumbass Socialists and Communists.

In modern day Uzbekistan, the largest "trade" is child traficking. And this is supposed to be "better?" "Freedom" and "rights" don't mean shit when a father has to sell his daughter to make his ends meet. And those UN crop substitution programme you see in the Samarkand- Termez route aren't all that attractive either. IN Soviet times, you saw patches of greenery gracing an otherwise barren landscape.

Also, in subway stations during Soviet times, in the citys you didn't have pre teens offering strangers BJs to make their ends meet either.
 
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naga_sadu

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Minsk bike...i had one when i was 15. I even remember that we called it's as "makaka" hehe. Thank you for that good memories..

HA ha, can you believe we STILL have a Zorki 2000 camera? :biglaugh: Those mofos last a LONG time man!!

And those UAZ 469 jeeps? They were HARDCORE bro! The 3172 was nice, but I seriously wished they presisted w/ the 469...

And those Zil cars. MAN. Those cars had the most comfortable back seats I've ever seen man- I'm 100% serious!! It's a pity the Zil 4102 never entered mass production. That was a fine car! And do you know about the Kharkov-L1 car?

Ah, and Turkmenistani plov w/ balls of charas? Man, indeed, great memories they were!!
 
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