Its official Cannabis coming back 2 class B in the UK

[DocLeaf]

I find it ironic really that in many respects the police are actually our next best friend in establishment terms, at least in Britain.

The police ain't not no brethren of mine,,, they are pigs!!!

The University system in the UK is still a radical establishment and place of enlightenment,, you just got to sift past all the dumb rich kids whose parents placed them there to find the really smart students/lecturers :wink:

are far more intuitive in terms of actual implementation of the law than the politicians - they may not know any more factually, but they're much more sensible in their interpretations.

For real?

In reality we live in a Fascist Police State,, whereby the Police often think themselves above the laws,, which they clearly misunderstand!

>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfQrDK9YHas

Don't get me wrong,, the British cops are probably just slightly less corrupt than those in mainland Europe,, but not by much.

I n I share no beef with motorway/traffic cops and community liaison officers which often do an outstanding job within the community,, like nurses and firemen!

It's the bully-boy-tactics,, playing Nazis,, hounding ppl,, that we don't like!

peace Elevator Man

dLeaf

"All an the Yout' shall witness the day that Babylon shall fall,,"

 

[DocLeaf]

dont let up on them


"We want peace. We want love. We want justice for all. We want to stop this madness... It's down to us!" Brian Haw

 

[DocLeaf]

Honestly, has there ever been any sort of negative finding against cannabis that didn't involve government bribery?

I lost my car-keys once.

 

[Elevator Man]

Well I don't feel like I'm in a Fascist Police State at all - nothing in my experience even comes close to that. There's plenty of cops cruising around my area, but they're generally keeping an eye on the drunks and the dodgy dealers. I doubt I live in some kind of blissful cushioned reality (urban environment, working-class area), so I don't understand how it can be that heavy in the rest of the country? My friends in Manchester feel far less oppressed by the police than the psycho-kiddies on BMX bikes popping caps at each other...

Granted, there's more cop shows on TV than you can shake a stick at, and they never fail to promote their interests above the law where possible, but I don't think really the police are the problem in this issue. If they don't know you're growing, they're not going to bust you. And if you're growing enough that they find out, well, that's the game, and we all know where it leads if you get caught. But to change the law means dealing with the people who draft it. Or the people who advise the people who draft it - like the ACMD.

The police just implement whatever law is put in front of them, and I don't think they give a shit about dope. They have to deal with drunk, violent arseholes every night of the week, and I know they'd prefer stoners any time...

 

[pSi007]

Assholes .. they need their testostrone level lowered .. off they go!!

I thought most Brits` lost their balls a long time before now. lol....
The Brits can understand well about trying to conquer the will of the people. Its been a 1,200 year war for King and Country. I`m just glad us gun smokin` rebels over here in the americas got chance to mince those little invading balls even further. Sadly, with us over here in America, we are starting to feel like natives once again. natives, not by the invading red coats, rather, by our own government. Have a lump of coal, King and Country. America will bathe in foreign blood once again. Many will be sad, others will rejoice.

So tell me, how does it feel to win a war?

 

[DocLeaf]

@ Elevator Man

Perhaps it is generative,, the older we get the less likely we are to come into contact with the police on a daily basis. As a teen I n I get a stop and search most days,, sometimes twice a day... for dealing little drugs and hustling bags of weed. The main reason they harassed us so often was because they couldn't find anything! Whereby a game of cat and mouse was pursued for several years after.

In an age of, asbos, mosquito (sound devises designed to target teenage ears), and urban neglect, we cannot help but think that kids these days are perhaps getting an even rougher end of the stick than we did.

The main protagonists in the whole "campaign against cannabis" (and it is a campaign) are the police. It is a proven fact that the police dislike free-thinking ppl. Those that answer back their stupid questions and dare challenge their obscure authority and misplaced judgements.

For example, this pig here doesn't give a shit about the fact that ppl are consuming glass-weed in his region,, infact he is "delighted" with the fact that Welsh dealers don't have any cannabis ! He's a c*nt!!

>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_-Hf0NXMNU&feature=related

>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8QNeU-B3Kk&feature=related

On everything else we'd agree buddy...

So tell me, how does it feel to win a war?

Hate to shatter a life-time of bed-time stories,, but the Americans never won the war of independence. The Yanks had to pay King George for their freedom after the battle.. lol ,,,alas the Federal Reserve Bank is still owned by Rothchild & Windsor families. Dream on... :wink:

Peace all

 

[Nifty]

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[pSi007]

Ya, the Brits really kicked ass in india and the falklands.. A cup of tea was all she wrote. So you are saying the Federal reserve bank, owned by Brittish capitalists are the real reason American gluttony is killing third world civilians?

I guess those Brits are too pussy to get out of socialist prohibition. Come to California, its medically legal in the state. I highly doubt you will ever see a federal prosecutor over a bag of greens. I guess that iron fist of King & Country has really put the spike through the patriotic limp, spotted dic? eh, ol chap? The fact of the matter is, Britain has very little export wealth. A few oil companies have some foundation but most of us know those Britts are losing the stakes on the future of oil, day by day, little by little. What else does GB export? fish? capitalist trade? heh... Keep on amusing yourself buddy, your economic dollar is strong but your backs are weak. What does GB have that the rest of the world will want?
For the most part, GB has fought many wars to keep control over third world and poor countries. God would only know why, I dont.... Like the saying, it might look good until you find out what it is. Similar to Great Britain, they dress nice but when the need is there the Brits have replaced the spotted dic with a nice case of the global herpes.

 

[jack.gh]

damn, I heard some rumors about this a while back, a real shame for people in the UK to have cannabis classified in the same category as much harder stuff. damn

 

[Guest]

Ya, the Brits really kicked ass in india and the falklands.. A cup of tea was all she wrote. So you are saying the Federal reserve bank, owned by Brittish capitalists are the real reason American gluttony is killing third world civilians?

I guess those Brits are too pussy to get out of socialist prohibition. Come to California, its medically legal in the state. I highly doubt you will ever see a federal prosecutor over a bag of greens. I guess that iron fist of King & Country has really put the spike through the patriotic limp, spotted dic? eh, ol chap? The fact of the matter is, Britain has very little export wealth. A few oil companies have some foundation but most of us know those Britts are losing the stakes on the future of oil, day by day, little by little. What else does GB export? fish? capitalist trade? heh... Keep on amusing yourself buddy, your economic dollar is strong but your backs are weak. What does GB have that the rest of the world will want?
For the most part, GB has fought many wars to keep control over third world and poor countries. God would only know why, I dont.... Like the saying, it might look good until you find out what it is. Similar to Great Britain, they dress nice but when the need is there the Brits have replaced the spotted dic with a nice case of the global herpes.

wtf has any of your drivel to do with law changes in the uk ?
why not keep your negative opinions to ya self and hide behind ya med certificate .

an if the brits are too pussy to get out socialist prohibition,doesnt that make the non med states pussies too

 

[DocLeaf]

Britain still globally exports it's brains,, gps ,, rolls royce engines,, and its special forces,, alongside twinnings tea, smoked salmon, and scotch whisky

Anyhow this reclassification thing is purely speculative at present,, cometh the hour we'll see what go on

 

[Nifty]

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[pSi007]

an if the brits are too pussy to get out socialist prohibition,doesnt that make the non med states pussies too

sure does! god save the queen!

I'm genuinely interested: What does everyone else think is likely to happen in the next 10 years or so with regard to the legal status of cannabis in the uk?

propaganda and socialist reform, civilian lock down and economic security for the rich. simplistic pleasing for the poor and control over the layman for the rich. The British Free Masons` believe the seed of life is everything so a new hierarchy will emerge. The richest families will collaborate while the poor are forced to fight over food and grain. The oldest books says that people are equal in this world and should always remain free. If this is so, why are the Masons enslaving the world?

The problem is that people in their hearts are good but the world of competition has led many astray. As Rodeny King said, Why can we all get along.. LOLOL... See it does not take a miracle seed to produce wonders. It takes a few asshole slave keepers to beat us into submission before our layman seed becomes a new beginning.

 

[DocLeaf]

Taking Liberties - http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...ing+liberties&ei=BAc9SLeJLpiI2gKty8zqAw&hl=en

 

[DocLeaf]

"The best rulers are scarcely known by their subjects;
The next best are loved and praised;
The next are feared;
The next despised;
They have no faith in their people,
And their people become unfaithful to them"

-Tao Te Ching

 

[DocLeaf]

The attitude of any government is predetermined...

"Should legal obstacles arise we shall legislate further" Tony Blair

 

[Elevator Man]

pSi007 - I don't think the take-up of Freemasonry in the UK is anything like what it used to be 100 years ago, and is more likely (or something like it) to be influential in the US these days, as capital moves westwards, and more and more people want a slice.

The New York/East Coast University/banking set has been using tactics like this for years to skim off the bulk of US wealth for themselves, and all this guff about the Queen just shows how well they've managed to fool the US public! You think it's Britain that's skanking you? And let's not forget, the US is currently in a recession, which makes the comments about Britain's export 'failures' quite interesting, though confusing.

Britain and the US have always welcomed foreigners and invaded foreign countries - the US may be a little newer to the game, but it's clearly on the ball now. So it's a bit rich to make all these assumptions about Britain when you've clearly never been, and know nothing about the place. The idea that Socialists are in charge is frankly laughable, and that there is 'prohibition' here is a nonsense.

In my experience it's never been easier to get quality weed and hash, and a wider selection of strains and flavours I have never known. I don't experience the police generally, as they don't seem that interested in me or my friends. If they're too busy busting gangs selling glass weed or importing Asian slave-labour to work in massage parlours (or grow-factories) then that's good, isn't it?

 

[Gert Lush]

Yeah, I'll agree with Elevator, let's keep this discussion serious, i.e. let's keep the victim-mentality, conspiracy nonsense out of it.
If we are really going to be concerned about a washed out, middle-aged, old boy's club like the Masons, then we've really got problems. pSi007, you do seem to have the wrong end of the stick, here... besides it's not been the Masons that rushed to believe the tall stories about new killer super skunk, was it? In any case, the last Mason I met asked for my help with his GR -- so let's keep it real!

There's a lot worse places than Britain (and worse people than British Masonry), we're trying to improve a situation here, not cry into our cornflakes about the evil... THEM!

 

[DoubleJ]

Well ignoring that bizarre little interjection into an otherwise interesting discussion, is this definitely going to go through now? Havent heard anything in the news over the last couple of weeks...

 

[Nifty]

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