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I know only Jack Herer

arhen

New member
Hi,
time has come to buy some seeds for this season. I've been reading this section for some days, but I still have some questions.

In the last 8 years I've grown only Jack Herer (organic outdoor, around 10 plants), a perfect strain for my environment (Slovenija 45°n, good weather until end of september, then windy and rainy 30% of the days, but ok until mid november) and personal needs ( low odor and healty plants, lose aprox 20% because of mold).
Now I think that I should try something else.
Money is not a problem, but I want to be sure that I can get a good product. It has to be strong at least as Jack and possibily something with different phenotipes.
I can buy decent indica weed on the market, so I would prefer a strong high, but phisical stone is not a problem.
Some years ago I've been to Amsterdam and my favourite one was Amnesia Haze, but I know that there is a big difference between commercial weed and self made outdoor.
I've been looking to Mr Nice, Sensi, Reservoir, Skunkman and Tom Hill lines, but there are too many good strains and it's hard to decide.
An option would be to buy 2 different strains (indica and a real sativa), but I am not sure that the second one can be ready before second week of november.

What's your suggestion?
 
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FIREofKALI

i would say you should go with reservoir... sssdh will replace jack fully for sure... and with it you can try deep chunk, old school hashplant...

im gonna grow some clones of jack o nesia(amnesia x jack herrer 22) from karma genetics... top notch genetics and if you go with mango haze you cant go wrong...

kali
 

arhen

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sssdh and super silver haze were always my first options, I just have to check how they behave outdoor
I've tried nevilles haze, but I didnt like it so much (dont know exactly the reason, maybe it was because of the commercial grow). I have to say that also Jack Herer in Amsterdam wasnt so special, but my outdoor haze pheno was REALLY amazing.
 

D.S. Toker. MD

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Hey arhen.

Jack Herrer is about as potent sativa as money can buy. SSH has some comparable pheno's

The most potent indica money can buy is sensi star and may be just what your looking for. It has 5 pheno's that range from a knock down couchlock that finishes in 50 days to a sativa/haze looking plant that takes 12-14 weeks to finish= to JH. Every single pheno is just potent as hell. Delta 9 is inbreeding that haze pheno- I think they call it "superstar". You wont be disappointed with it, and after growing JH for years, the vast majority of stains out their are way inferior and WILL disappoint you.

Dear God dont grow Deep chunk. It has qualities that are apparently golden to breeders but Jack Herrer is 4X as potent and yeilds 10X as much smoke as DC
 

arhen

New member
Hey arhen.

Jack Herrer is about as potent sativa as money can buy. SSH has some comparable pheno's

The most potent indica money can buy is sensi star and may be just what your looking for. It has 5 pheno's that range from a knock down couchlock that finishes in 50 days to a sativa/haze looking plant that takes 12-14 weeks to finish= to JH. Every single pheno is just potent as hell. Delta 9 is inbreeding that haze pheno- I think they call it "superstar". You wont be disappointed with it,
Sensi star is an option if I go for 2 different strains. I'm just reading some reports and it seems very good. Other indica suggestions?
What about destroyer, TH haze, Reservoir seeds?

and after growing JH for years, the vast majority of stains out their are way inferior and WILL disappoint you.
Thats exactly my problem. In the last years I think the quality of Jack Herer has become worse (maybe I was just unlucky) so I have to find a good replacement.

Dear God dont grow Deep chunk. It has qualities that are apparently golden to breeders but Jack Herrer is 4X as potent and yeilds 10X as much smoke as DC
From my limited experience I have to say that I dont have any special requirements like someone on the forum. The weather is almost perfect and the plants have all the space they need. I mean I just put the plants in the ground and let them grow. The only thing I am interested in is the quality of the weed.


Thank you
 

kaneboy

Well-known member
Veteran
rez killerqueen kush -g-13xcindy99xhindu kush might be worth looking at ,the grow reports are truly amazing also rez sour diesel ibl ,chemdog and dutchgrow is worth checking out to
 
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growhigh1233

try some kali mist .................... also look at the new spanish breeders they have some fresh new genetics , ace cannaboigen , or try some landraces for something different ! sugar haze from seedsman is some of the strongest stuff iv ever experianced and its really cheap too !! world of seeds do landrace as do the real seed company there are a few !

something that isnt just nl.skunk.haze is differing percentages !!

ohh and check out chimera ....... his highland mexican x blueberry it quickly gaining lengendry status
 

GET MO

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bubba kush is pretty nice outdoor grown it twice now and was very nice!

outdoor ?

herijuana ibl

easy sativa


These two plants are about as indica as it gets. Id go with a good ssh cross or c99 cross for the outdoor, from my personal experience they yield well outdoors and finish sometime in october in 39 degrees north. I did some xj13, which was a jack herer cross and it did well outdoors. I just orderred some killing fields and shackzilla for my outdoor. doing that along with some rks X deep chunk. A lot of stuff should work well but for sativaish Id go with c99 or ssh crosses all day.
 

Fuzz420

Ganja Smoker Extraordinaire
Veteran
I just dropped 5 herijuana seeds in water i hear its deadly potent but ill find out in a few months. Right now i'd suggest Mota's green manalishi(pacific g-13 x g13/hp) but its has a strong smell. For a sativa i would look into if you can find them is MOD's Mist of Destruction. Cannabiogen's Destroyer x Serious Kali Mist. Two bomb ass sativas in one
 

Cloneman

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Veteran
Kronocaine > Amnesia Haze ♀ x Herijuana ♂

i've just ordered them, Google Kronocaine, plenty of other stuff aswell
 

woolybear

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Veteran
Hi,
time has come to buy some seeds for this season. I've been reading this section for some days, but I still have some questions.

In the last 8 years I've grown only Jack Herer (organic outdoor, around 10 plants), a perfect strain for my environment (Slovenija 45°n, good weather until end of september, then windy and rainy 30% of the days, but ok until mid november) and personal needs ( low odor and healty plants, lose aprox 20% because of mold).
Now I think that I should try something else.

What's your suggestion?

I suggest you check out the beans from Hybrids from Hell. Here is a link to their forum here:

https://www.icmag.com/ic/forumdisplay.php?f=65703

HfH is run by esbe, who is very active on the boards and a cool dude. Here's a quote:

"HFHs aim is to produce hybrids from carefully selected genetics worldwide and get them out as cheap as possible. HFHs force is the many collectivists that supports and inspire me and eachother to reach the best possible output. i personally is concentrating on outdoor genetics for the northern grower, meaning genetics that will finish well before the frost and mold gets them at northren lats up to 60. offcause potens and yields are considered also, and i also love to do hybrids that is ornamental, full of color and beauty"

Link to Seedbay Hfh. Do not underestimate the Danish Cannabis Seed Growers! They can mix n' match with the best of them! :dance013:

hfhbanner.gif
 

Gert Lush

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I do think that with Jack H you have probably found one of the best plants for your requirements! Seriously!

The more hazy stuff will finish well into November, with all associated problems, and the faster indica stuff, oh well, nothing wrong with it, but it ain't no Jack.

I haven't tried it yet, but if I was in your position I might try some of UGORG's OldTimes, or even NoName, though I'd prefer the first - some nice powerful African genetics with some Blueberry in the mix.

Mr.Nice's MangoNevilles Haze is good too.

I'd say stay with what you know, and - if possible - try to arrange cloning facilities so you can keep any real winners.
 

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