Energy Turtle
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Its all a part of a secret cabal led by Big Ganja and the cannabis illuminati.
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High Times Goes Down
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Sweatloaf
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I remember the Hydroponic Tomato stores in the 1990s and buying anything there with nothing but cashy cash cash. I thought it insane even back then that anyone would have written a check or used a credit card. Cash = not on any customer list.
"Federal drug agents arrested 119 people today and raided retail stores in 46 states that sell specialized horticultural equipment that investigators say is used for growing marijuana indoors."
"Officials of the Drug Enforcement Administration said that agents entered 22 businesses selling horticultural lighting and watering equipment and that 8 or 9 were closed."
"Agents also seized business documents like shipping records and customer lists that could lead to indoor marijuana growers, the officials said. Charges Are Unclear."
"Officials of the Drug Enforcement Administration said that agents entered 22 businesses selling horticultural lighting and watering equipment and that 8 or 9 were closed."
"Agents also seized business documents like shipping records and customer lists that could lead to indoor marijuana growers, the officials said. Charges Are Unclear."
therealpacific
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1989 oh yes it happened
This Day in Cannabis History - Black Thursday: Launch of Operation Green Merchant
It was on this "Black Thursday" in 1989 that the DEA launched "Operation Green Merchant"—raiding dozens of grow shops across the US.
www.worldofcannabis.museum
Yes and those customer lists came from the hydroponics stores that they raided. Nothing about High Times subscribers.
Energy Turtle
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Homeland security stole my bongs I ordered from Europe a few years ago.
I'm still pissed over that.
I'm still pissed over that.
moose eater
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The government and their agents are as lazy as anyone else. If you can coerce someone into giving you from their rolodex what it would take 2-4 agents and a shitload of time to gather from hardcopy, they will take the easy way out... like most humans... But they're also bureaucrats, so it amplifies the whole "I'm lazy" component.
Ask me how many times US Customs has let me slide on a minor technicality that would've earned some Dineros for the Gov., but the agent in my face loathed paperwork.
I'm talking about the thread starter suggesting that High Times was responsible for people getting busted in Operation Green Merchant.
What are you talking about?
"In May 2003, Tommy Chong plead guilty to charges of "conspiring to distribute drug paraphernalia," after a sting operation in which federal agents in Pittsburgh ordered his bongs over the Internet, thus ensuring that the items were sent across state lines."
They love bongs.
Tommy Chong goes to jail | Cannabis Culture
moose eater
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I've read the female DEA agents and the agents' female spouses use them as dildos. (no, not really, but it creates some imagery if one focuses on the idea...)"In May 2003, Tommy Chong plead guilty to charges of "conspiring to distribute drug paraphernalia," after a sting operation in which federal agents in Pittsburgh ordered his bongs over the Internet, thus ensuring that the items were sent across state lines."
They love bongs.
Tommy Chong goes to jail | Cannabis Culture
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Energy Turtle
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Not a lot of pot, it only takes a few hits off "Alex Jones" to stay high all day long..
Indirectly, High Times was responsible for the arrest of several people. The list got busted in their facilities.
If you have trouble understanding this, study logic, because your reasoning is very flawed.
PS - Do I think High Times is to blame for this? NO, again, NO. If you have trouble understanding my point about the feds, go back to the second paragraph. If you have a problem with the creator of the thread, quote him in your post, not me.
moose eater
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Advertising in a cannabis magazine is pretty solid circumstantial evidence that the grow gear wasn't being intended for tomatoes and petunias.
I strongly suspect any pressure laid on High Times for a list of advertisers came from that corner of the proverbial ring.
Again, most gov hacks are lazy... like the rest of the species, but maybe more so. Thank God.
I strongly suspect any pressure laid on High Times for a list of advertisers came from that corner of the proverbial ring.
Again, most gov hacks are lazy... like the rest of the species, but maybe more so. Thank God.
Their facilities? What are you talking about?
Operation Green Merchant targeted hydroponics stores and the people who bought things from those stores.
Those stores were legitimate businesses that paid taxes and had brick and mortar storefronts in actual geographic locations. They didn't need High Times to tell them about it.
To suggest that High Times was even indirectly responsible, just because some of those businesses advertised in High Times, is stupid and makes no sense at all.
Furthermore nobody can provide any evidence that they actually gave the DEA any records at all or that this supposed evidence was used to convict any growers.
If you have an actual point to make please do it.
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moose eater
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Bearing in mind that back in those days, merely loaning someone a shovel, a garden hose, or some soil, with the knowledge they intended to use them/it to cultivate cannabis, was potentially grounds for a federal conspiracy charge. Yes, boys and girls, once upon a time, Uncle Shmuck hated pot smokers (and especially pot growers) SO FUCKING MUCH, that creative thinking to the point of absurdity was sometimes the norm. And those days aren't that far behind us. In my rear-view mirror, they "appear closer than they are."
Tynehead Tom
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Here in Canada in the late 80's thru into the 2000's the cops would stake out all the hydroponic shops and take pics and license plates. It's how they were able to bust so many growers back then. I was taught to always get someone totally unconnected to growing to buy all my supplies and that was my standard practice the whole time I grew thru all those years. One of the main shops here got popped and they got his customer list and lots of people got raided. Thankfully I never dealt with those guys.
RobFromTX
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And property forfeitures and auction if you got caught cultivating . Texas was one of the last states to stop that bullshit. 2002 i believe
