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greenluv707

pit wisper/ rare strain collector
hey pal check out: pop goes the weasel thread: page 5 brain dead dude post up a shit load of the p-19 pheno........that pic is very nice and a nice pheno but its not the p-19 your lookin for......think this look for the most slender sativa landrace lookin leaves....very very slender.......
 
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its the leaves that give it away for sure, post up a pic and ill tell you.....

ive been looking for the 2 little backwards pointing blades looking like horns.

not sure if thats a good indicator but its what im looking for.
 

the gnome

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mine definitely has thin leaves, i thought very sativa.
what about the "unmistakable smell" on the P 19 GL?
 

greenluv707

pit wisper/ rare strain collector
super silver haze check out that thread i listed , thoes phenos the braindead dude has are the p-19 pheno..........long ass leaves,slender like a knife,looks like a landrace sativa for sure........seedee had one but it looks like he ran it through.......was lookin at the pix and spoted one of his girl showin thoes trates...
 

kstampy

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From what I read long ago somewhere on ICM (I think from Oldbongwater) the p19 pheno has 2 "horn" like leaves on the smallest fan leaves that come inwards. I snagged a pack before it was too late myself, good luck on your searches!
 

greenluv707

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i allmost wanna say wet paint.........its a very hard smell to describe......a weird metalic wet paint smell.......ive smoked the p-19 on more then one ocation.......steeles........:tiphat:
 

the gnome

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i allmost wanna say wet paint.........its a very hard smell to describe......a weird metalic wet paint smell.......ive smoked the p-19 on more then one ocation.......steeles........:tiphat:

hmmm... mine is a hard to describe also..?
it definitely has undertones of the old mexican sins i use to grow in the late 70s
smelling it takes me back, but it has other smells also, not sure i wanna say wet paint.. but?
mine has the pretty thin leaves, the fans were a bit wider but still i thought they were much thinnner than all the others in the garden, plus I get the *devil horns* standing nearly straight up on the the 2 smallest leafs next to the leaf stem.
 
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greenluv, thats the dude that i based my info off of..........from your thread.

it is definitly a dominate trait in the ibl b/c 2 males in my US were p19 leaning and in each plant was definitly more sativa looking.


Kstampy, right on...........good buy and im sure youll find keepers but make f2's to search for the special p19 keepers.

good luck
 

greenluv707

pit wisper/ rare strain collector
when i rubbed her the smell will set itself apart from the rest in the room for sure........its just the looks of the plants that the braindead dude remind me of the p-19 that i saw,smelled and smoked my fair share of.....
 

the gnome

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From what I read long ago somewhere on ICM (I think from Oldbongwater) the p19 pheno has 2 "horn" like leaves on the smallest fan leaves that come inwards. !


like these on mine....
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here's a pic of braindeads P-19 devil horns
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kstampy

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the gnome: exactly! I saw those leaves on a male I never got to use but I picked up a female clone from a place in socal and that one never had that trait. Smelled like leather/meat almost not wet paint to me but was the most memorable flavor and high of all the strains I have grown in the past. I think I have pics of it in my LUI sig.

When I do these in the next 3-6 months I will be finding the best male, makin some beans and possibly crossing with a real nice OG and hopefully SS Ogre if I can some how magically get that clone back.
 

Kant C Shyt

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Man i've been gone like 20 mins and all of this, ya'll are fast ;). Aight a lot of similar info. about sativa leaves and the 2 smallest leaves but closest to the leaf stem that point upwards that ya'll call the devil horns is definately a major thing to look for which all the die hard P19 seekers should already know. The P19 mom was a "crazy" African sativa not only in high but structure and all. Also the smell i've heard described from Steele to others that have the P19 phenos are from sweet pickle, musky, catpiss, weird incense. So its seems that the P19 mother's smell should be easy to point out than the fruity smells coming from Swt #2 father. So if it ain't fruity you probably have a pheno leaning towards the mother's side, not always the case but more times than not.

There are also leaf variations from curls and bends to I forgot the v word where it has spots and such on the leaves that the mother displayed. Remember though that SS pointed this out early in his IBL project and explained that he was trying to breed some of those negative traits out so they won't be showing up as much, just a heads up. I'm sure SS also bred away from this but the fact of the matter is the P19 mother's seed/genetic line genepool however you look at it was full of hermys plain and simple. Breeder Steve went thru 500 P19 beans before he found the mother he used and yes the 1st 499 were hermy and the last seed was not but it was also completely different from the other 499, the 1 thing good out of a pile of crap if you look at it genetic lotto stand point. Sometimes its a numbers games thats also why i'm willing to put in the extra time to find a real gem out of the BH IBL (I know the IBL will be bomb i'm just looking for that 1 girl that clearly stands above the others).

I'm glad there are other members on here excited about the P19 like I am. Its like we kinda got a little underground P19 Club going on ;). For once i'm in early on a strain and i'm just starting to germ it and it was only released not too long ago. Results are just starting to come in I mean whats it like 1 or 2 people have finished the IBL so far and the plants are looking amazing people good job on those. Can't wait til most of us have finished a run or 2 with her imagine some of the results by then, oh the anticipation. Ya'll take care 1

P.S. the gnome, that's what to for thanks for putting those pics up. Now lets go find killer phenos of the plant Suess aka crazy yanqi said was the only plant worth growing!
 

the gnome

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hope you get loads of the devils horn kstampy :)
not all the leaves on the plants do it, and other strains will do it to some degree but not like the P19
when you see them standing at a nearly straight veritcle angle you know its something different.

reading other posts steele described the smell of sweet pickles...
i think thats one of the smells in mine.
I had 3 nice males but didn't know at the time what to look for.
they were all equally robust so I took the stankiest.

one more thing I haven't said about my gals nugz... they are rock hard!!
 

the gnome

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glad to see your seeds are finally *taking a bath* KCS
and yeah, this is kind of a small P19 club lol!

like you I'm finally not going to be reading about the drop I didn't get..
but should've got.....
that you can't get anymore...
that are absolutely KILLER!! :laughing:
 

greenluv707

pit wisper/ rare strain collector
ya sorry about the smell its deff a sweet bread pickel.........hard for me to put my finger on that one its a smell not very common in the weed world.

ya you guys hit it on the head deff a sweet bread pickel.....

when i discribed the smell i was talkin about the smell from a fresh budded p-19..........the sweet bread pickel deff sets in hard after a good cure.
 

Gsizzle

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Is this leaf pattern a decent representation of P19. She has been vegging for about 40 days waiting for her time to shine. About 4ft tall.

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Kant C Shyt

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Hey the gnome, EXACTLY :)! No more of showing up to the party late and the homeowner is just cleaning up a few days later, oh no we up in this Mutha! Yes they are taking a bath as we speak at a quick start up location for my OD season. Gotta go check on em later, might be dropping 6 Ultra Sonjas very soon also :) got see how these germ and then what other strains I need to get and i'll go from there but more than likely yea i'll be running 2 of these Grindhouse strains outdoors so i'll keep people posted.

Hey gsizzle, you see those 2 leaves pointing up towards the top of page and the other 5 are pointing down those 2 at the top are the ones to look at but from the above view angle its a little hard to tell in your 1st pic. If you were to look at the leaf set on a horizontal plane those 2 smallest farthest back leaves will be sticking/pointing upwards but this might not appear on every set of leaves. From Pic 2 its still a little hard to see. In pic 3 though I think i'm seeing it on a few of em but note also the angle of the leaves already in the pic but thats kinda looking like it from what I can tell from the pic. Just put a book flat under a couple of leaf sets and see if you really notice the back leaves sticking up. Nice looking plant by the way.

I also want to say i'm not trying to start a debate on whether or not we've gonna find the P19 thats what the goal of Blockhead IBL project was to isolate the sativa qualities of the mother's side. Her racy, aggresive, skull skinner head high is what its all about. I was just stating I don't want to find an average IBL pheno that 1 might expect in purchasing a pack but that I would explore the genepool in search of something special even if its only special to me. We all can buy the same breed of dog but who's got a Westminster winner at home ;). GL to everyone on their hunt for those rare ladies. Take care 1
 

DJ Weedkill

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can anyone help me with genetics of Whiplash it was a baby i received as a Patient from Magnolia Wellness Before they closed Down I have been looking everywhere but head is startin too hurt lookin! if anyone can lead this Vet in the Right location Much thanks! DJ Weedkill
 

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