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Sorry this is a bit off topic but I wonder if a good water cure would reverse any build up of anything from feeding full strength all the way to the end.
Sorry this is a bit off topic but I wonder if a good water cure would reverse any build up of anything from feeding full strength all the way to the end.
DHC I hear ya loud and clear but mostly because I am a DWC grower.I don't have decades of experience but I can tell you that my best product has been when I slowly dial back the ppm levels and simply topped off at the end. 3000 ppm sounds crazy to me....even at the. 7 calibration but I am a big advocate of people doing what works for them. Me I never go above 900 (.5 calibration) ppm in my buckets.
I`ve tried to stay away and let this thread calm down , and after reading MHG`s thoughts on how there`s no way possible for him to flush OR "dwindle" down ppms toward end of cycle with a "water only" organic type setup being the exception and most definitely NOT the rule .....
I defer to the voice of reason from Hammerhead about actual "plant senescence" I`ve tried to stress during this thread to work toward , by leaching nutrients from the rootzone while allowing the plants to "cannibalize" themselves , and use up residual nutrients stored in the fan leaves and plant tissue by the time it comes to chop said plants where little to no ppms reside in any plant matter , and what`s left over is taken care of through proper dry and cure IME.....WITH synthetic nutrient grown setups REGARDLESS of medium used....that said.....
Heath never ran more than 600 ppms/1.2 ec across the board and NEVER flushed , but....He also always preached proper dry AND cure to allow all excess juice left in plant tissue to be leached out through evaporation/dehumidification "slowly" FTW....so....
Snook.....Just make sure your plants have max airflow and RH reduction during a "slow" dry and cure process AFTER nugs are done and bagged/jarred and it`s all good......Me ?....
I never walked around with blinders on and accepted what someone "said" as bein gospel , but rather found over many many yrs of "trial and error" that getting rid of as many ppms "slowly" WITHOUT starving the plants in late bloomage to allow em to swell accordingly and be all they could be by end of cycle , was what worked for me with optimum and consistent returns every run.....with synthetic nutrient setups with "soilless" or hydro mediums .....guaranteed....so.....
Many ways ta skin a mule guys.....BUT....Plant senescence is key to a properly finished plant from what I and 99% of ALL old head growers have seen over the yrs , and crazy ass ppms till end of cycle even @ .7 conversion is indeed just that.....Crazy....anyways....
Good luck and.....
Peace....DHF..........
i however have been trying to weed out the "bro science" and keep it as simple as possible without sacrificing to much on the end product.
Hey JD......I fully respect water only organic medium setups , and my last post was about semi-apologizing to MHG about him not being able to leach his rootzones of excess juice NOR all the fan leaves and plant material with leftover ppms not used up by end of cycle with just water , and.....Stop on over to the organics forum. That's where folks like MHG hang out. Check out Organic Soil 101, Microscopy, ROLS, etc... No BS and definitely no sacrificing. We even had author Jeff Lowenfels drop by when we were discussing his latest book, Teaming With Nutrients.
Do us ALL a favor IF you`re in Med-ville and spend a few bucks to TEST your shit , cuz I assure you ALL reputable clubs will have your shit tested for residual nutrient concentrations before they`ll buy and turn around and retail it......
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hear hear john deereNo offense intended to anyone, DHF. It was more of a direct response to mowood3479's comment about 'bro science'. Lots of real science gets discussed (listed references) over there and those particular threads just popped to mind as examples.
And for the record, back when I grew with chems I usually finished with water only (I always hated saying flush, it ain't a toilet) but sometimes I'd feed til the end.
Sempervirdis......Thanks for the neg rep when what you just posted is EXACLTLY what I`ve done for yrs and yrs of trial and error to end up with the best possible end result product and is totally unfounded or misunderstood....BUT.....