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Fact Checking Thread -

nepalnt21

FRRRRRResh!
Veteran
it reminds me of that flat earther that was telling ppl he would give them a hundred grand if they could map out this certain flight path on navigational charts... he went to great lengths to keep moving the goalposts over and over. i'm sure ppl would lay off him if he just went "ok, i admit i have no clue what im talking about, also i am broke sorry"

i think ppl were generally more interested in debunking his idiocy rather than the money they knew he didnt have
 

hubcap

StackinCalyxs
Veteran
Paul Harvey reported Bruce Lee’s death was brought on by smoking marijuana. He was entertaining, but full of shit. Nothing has changed.




oh, come on. don't be so hard on the old fellah...


everyone is allowed one screw up.
:biggrin:


Paul Harvey was dead-balls ON a wide majority of the time.
(when, of course, he wasn't opining.)
but, at least he would say he was doing so.....
as opposed to just doing it (opining) and treating it like gospel.
like today's news rags.


:D
 

hubcap

StackinCalyxs
Veteran
it reminds me of that flat earther that was telling ppl he would give them a hundred grand if they could map out this certain flight path on navigational charts... he went to great lengths to keep moving the goalposts over and over. i'm sure ppl would lay off him if he just went "ok, i admit i have no clue what im talking about, also i am broke sorry"

i think ppl were generally more interested in debunking his idiocy rather than the money they knew he didnt have


chlorine for the gene pool.
at least he went out in an entertaining way.




….right?


were we NOT ENTERTAINED?!?!?!?!?


:dueling:
 

shaggyballs

Active member
Veteran
I have question for the kind black folks round here.

My info comes from a few older black men that have spent a good amt. of time in prison.

They tell me the pants hanging below the butt thing was born in prison.
It was use to signal you were open for business.

Is this the truth?
I was told this, these are not my words.

But I would like to ask.....
Where did this idea first come from?
Or is it really just wearing you big brothers hand me downs.

Please take no offence to the question, I make no judgement other than it looks silly and is very hard to run like that...LOL

Peace
Shag
 

Brother Nature

Well-known member
I have question for the kind black folks round here.

My info comes from a few older black men that have spent a good amt. of time in prison.

They tell me the pants hanging below the butt thing was born in prison.
It was use to signal you were open for business.

Is this the truth?
I was told this, these are not my words.

But I would like to ask.....
Where did this idea first come from?
Or is it really just wearing you big brothers hand me downs.

Please take no offence to the question, I make no judgement other than it looks silly and is very hard to run like that...LOL

Peace
Shag


Belts are not allowed in prison, pants are generic sizes, hence the sagging. I think it's become more of a generational thing now though. My generation tend to sag their pants a little (regardless of race), though the younger people I see around seem to like tighter pants again, I personally think tight pants look more feminine than loose ones, but again probably just generational. I tend to wear pants a bit lower, not under the ass though, I'm skinny and like to keep my ass warm.


I'm not black, but I have been to prison so maybe my opinion only holds half the merit?
 

shaggyballs

Active member
Veteran
Who is this? Name? Background?

The scientist who invented the PCR (Polymerase Chain Reaction) test kit was Kary B. Mullis.

If you reject PCR testing then you may as well throw out much of modern analytics. This includes mushroom ID, soil and mineral tests, testing contaniments. Many common diagnostics of human and animal maladies and related treatments would all be invalidated along with ancestry testing for familia and canine species. Would they have been treated for mystery diseases by happenstance?
You pose a very good question here....seems maybe they are.
I never noticed him offer the 5K. Who do I collect it from?
.

This is the fact checking thread right?
We seem to have some mis-information here.
Maybe don't try and collect just yet....

What is PCR?

“In the early 1990’s, PCR, came into popular use, and Kary Mullis was awarded the Nobel Prize for it in 1993. PCR, simply put, is a thermal cycling method used to make up to billions of copies of a specific DNA sample, making it large enough to study. PCR is an indispensable technique with a broad variety of applications including biomedical research and criminal forensics.”

According to Mullis himself, PCR cannot be totally and should never be used as a tool in “the diagnosis of infectious diseases.”
 

shaggyballs

Active member
Veteran
More:
SARS-CoV-2 Coronavirus Multiplex RT-qPCR Kit (CD019RT)
Regulatory status: For research use only, not for use in diagnostic procedures.
https://www.creative-diagnostics.com/sars-cov-2-coronavirus-multiplex-rt-qpcr-kit-277854-457.htm

Intended Use:
This product is intended for the detection of 2019-Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV). The detection result of this product is only for clinical reference, and it should (not) be used as the only evidence for clinical diagnosis and treatment.


CDC 2019-Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel For Emergency Use Only… “Positive results are indicative of active infection with 2019-nCoV but do not rule out bacterial infection or co-infection with other viruses. The agent detected may not be the definite cause of disease. ”

Regarding Kary Mullis’ intention for the PCR, this is what he said:

“I’m sad that he isn’t here to defend his manufacturing technique. Kary did not invent a test. He invented a very powerful manufacturing technique that is being abused. What are the best applications for PCR? Not medical diagnostics. He knew that and he always said that.”
 

cyat

Active member
Veteran
Who is this supposed doctor? Name? Background?
If you reject PCR testing then you may as well throw out much of modern analytics. This includes mushroom ID, soil and mineral tests, testing contaniments. Many common diagnostics of human and animal maladies and related treatments would all be invalidated along with ancestry testing for familia and canine species. Would they have been treated for mystery diseases by happenstance?

I never noticed him offer the 5K. Who do I collect it from?



https://www.weblyf.com/2020/05/coronavirus-the-truth-about-pcr-test-kit-from-the-inventor-and-other-experts/
 

cyat

Active member
Veteran
https://www.factcheck.org/2019/11/social-posts-distort-facts-on-political-relationships/

Quick Take
Social media posts falsely claim that California Gov. Gavin Newsom is House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s nephew, and that Rep. Adam Schiff has a sister who is married to the son of George Soros. It also falsely states that a daughter of former Secretary of State John Kerry is married to a “mullah’s son in Iran.”

Full Story
Viral posts circulating on Facebook claim to show supposed marriages and family relationships among, and between, political and media figures — but they advance several falsehoods and also present some outdated information.

The images, repeatedly posted and shared thousands of times, first advance false claims about the families of three prominent Democrats — House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Rep. Adam Schiff and former Secretary of State John Kerry.

“Yes, Gavin Newsom is Nancy Pelosi’s nephew,” the posts begin, falsely drawing that relation between Pelosi and Newsom, the California governor. It then falsely says “Adam Schiff’s sister is married to George Soros son” — a claim we’ve debunked before — and that Kerry’s “daughter is married to a ‘mullah’s son in Iran.”

Here are the facts about those three claims.

Pelosi and Newsom

There are ties between the Pelosi and Newsom families — both prominent California families — that go back several decades, as outlined in a recent commentary piece published by the nonprofit journalism venture CalMatters. But Nancy Pelosi is not Gavin Newsom’s aunt. In reality, Nancy Pelosi’s brother-in-law, Ron Pelosi, was married to the late Belinda Barbara Newsom, who was Gavin Newsom’s aunt.

In other words, Pelosi’s brother-in-law was the uncle (through marriage) of Gavin Newsom. But Barbara Newsom and Ron Pelosi divorced decades ago, in 1977, and Barbara Newsom died in 2008.

Kerry’s Daughter

The claim that Kerry’s “daughter is married to a ‘mullah’s son in Iran” is also bogus.

Kerry’s daughter, Vanessa, is married to Brian Nahed, a neurosurgeon. Nahed is of Iranian descent, but he was born in the United States. According to the couple’s wedding announcement in the New York Times in 2009, Nahed’s father, M. Reza Nahed, is a pulmonologist in California, who operates a private practice managed by his wife — and Brian’s mother — Nooshin P. Nahed. M. Reza Nahed graduated from Tehran University of Medical Sciences and Health Services in 1974, and received his medical license in California in 1979, according to state medical board records.

Both Brian Nahed and Vanessa Kerry, in interviews with FactCheck.org, said the description of the elder Nahed as a “mullah in Iran” was a fabrication. The term in Iran typically describes a Muslim clergyman.

“That is false,” Kerry said, reiterating that her father-in-law is a “devoted doctor” who lives in California and has been in the U.S. since the 1970s.

Moreover, Brian Nahed said, “my parents aren’t religious at all.” Nahed added that his parents immigrated before the Iranian Revolution and haven’t returned since; both Vanessa Kerry and Brian Nahed also said they have never been to Iran.

In 2015 — when then-Secretary of State John Kerry helped negotiate the Iran nuclear agreement — online rumors wrongly claimed that the son of Iran’s foreign minister had been the best man at the couple’s wedding years earlier, which Vanessa Kerry publicly debunked. Nahed said similar falsehoods have continued to resurface. “Every once in awhile — maybe once a year — you’ll see it flare up,” he said.

“It’s been incredibly frustrating,” Kerry said of the continued flow of misinformation. “It’s really an invasion of the privacy of my in-laws. They never signed up for a political life.”

Kerry is the co-founder and CEO of a Boston-based nonprofit aimed at improving the health profession around the world. Brian Nahed works at Massachusetts General Hospital.

Schiff and Soros

The claim that Schiff’s “sister” is married to the son of George Soros — a billionaire philanthropist known for funding liberal causes and who is often the subject of falsehoods — is also bogus. As we’ve previously written, Schiff doesn’t even have a sister. The falsehood is born out of the fact that Soros’ son, Robert, was once married to a woman who also had the last name Schiff.

Media Ties

The posts then proceed to list a half-dozen family relationships it presents as proof that “the news system” is “rigged.” That same list — which accurately depicts relationships between members of the media industry and former members of the Obama administration — has circulated since 2016.

At this point, though, some of the information is outdated. For example, David Rhodes — the brother of former Obama deputy national security adviser Ben Rhodes — is no longer the president of CBS News. And Ben Sherwood — whose sister, Elizabeth Sherwood, was a deputy secretary of energy under Obama — recently left his post as president of Disney/ABC Television Group.

Editor’s note: FactCheck.org is one of several organizations working with Facebook to debunk misinformation shared on social media. Our previous stories can be found here.

Quick Take
Social media posts falsely claim that California Gov. Gavin Newsom is House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s nephew, and that Rep. Adam Schiff has a sister who is married to the son of George Soros. It also falsely states that a daughter of former Secretary of State John Kerry is married to a “mullah’s son in Iran.”

Full Story
Viral posts circulating on Facebook claim to show supposed marriages and family relationships among, and between, political and media figures — but they advance several falsehoods and also present some outdated information.

The images, repeatedly posted and shared thousands of times, first advance false claims about the families of three prominent Democrats — House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Rep. Adam Schiff and former Secretary of State John Kerry.

“Yes, Gavin Newsom is Nancy Pelosi’s nephew,” the posts begin, falsely drawing that relation between Pelosi and Newsom, the California governor. It then falsely says “Adam Schiff’s sister is married to George Soros son” — a claim we’ve debunked before — and that Kerry’s “daughter is married to a ‘mullah’s son in Iran.”

Here are the facts about those three claims.

Pelosi and Newsom

There are ties between the Pelosi and Newsom families — both prominent California families — that go back several decades, as outlined in a recent commentary piece published by the nonprofit journalism venture CalMatters. But Nancy Pelosi is not Gavin Newsom’s aunt. In reality, Nancy Pelosi’s brother-in-law, Ron Pelosi, was married to the late Belinda Barbara Newsom, who was Gavin Newsom’s aunt.

In other words, Pelosi’s brother-in-law was the uncle (through marriage) of Gavin Newsom. But Barbara Newsom and Ron Pelosi divorced decades ago, in 1977, and Barbara Newsom died in 2008.

Kerry’s Daughter

The claim that Kerry’s “daughter is married to a ‘mullah’s son in Iran” is also bogus.

Kerry’s daughter, Vanessa, is married to Brian Nahed, a neurosurgeon. Nahed is of Iranian descent, but he was born in the United States. According to the couple’s wedding announcement in the New York Times in 2009, Nahed’s father, M. Reza Nahed, is a pulmonologist in California, who operates a private practice managed by his wife — and Brian’s mother — Nooshin P. Nahed. M. Reza Nahed graduated from Tehran University of Medical Sciences and Health Services in 1974, and received his medical license in California in 1979, according to state medical board records.

Both Brian Nahed and Vanessa Kerry, in interviews with FactCheck.org, said the description of the elder Nahed as a “mullah in Iran” was a fabrication. The term in Iran typically describes a Muslim clergyman.

“That is false,” Kerry said, reiterating that her father-in-law is a “devoted doctor” who lives in California and has been in the U.S. since the 1970s.

Moreover, Brian Nahed said, “my parents aren’t religious at all.” Nahed added that his parents immigrated before the Iranian Revolution and haven’t returned since; both Vanessa Kerry and Brian Nahed also said they have never been to Iran.

In 2015 — when then-Secretary of State John Kerry helped negotiate the Iran nuclear agreement — online rumors wrongly claimed that the son of Iran’s foreign minister had been the best man at the couple’s wedding years earlier, which Vanessa Kerry publicly debunked. Nahed said similar falsehoods have continued to resurface. “Every once in awhile — maybe once a year — you’ll see it flare up,” he said.

“It’s been incredibly frustrating,” Kerry said of the continued flow of misinformation. “It’s really an invasion of the privacy of my in-laws. They never signed up for a political life.”

Kerry is the co-founder and CEO of a Boston-based nonprofit aimed at improving the health profession around the world. Brian Nahed works at Massachusetts General Hospital.

Schiff and Soros

The claim that Schiff’s “sister” is married to the son of George Soros — a billionaire philanthropist known for funding liberal causes and who is often the subject of falsehoods — is also bogus. As we’ve previously written, Schiff doesn’t even have a sister. The falsehood is born out of the fact that Soros’ son, Robert, was once married to a woman who also had the last name Schiff.

Media Ties

The posts then proceed to list a half-dozen family relationships it presents as proof that “the news system” is “rigged.” That same list — which accurately depicts relationships between members of the media industry and former members of the Obama administration — has circulated since 2016.

At this point, though, some of the information is outdated. For example, David Rhodes — the brother of former Obama deputy national security adviser Ben Rhodes — is no longer the president of CBS News. And Ben Sherwood — whose sister, Elizabeth Sherwood, was a deputy secretary of energy under Obama — recently left his post as president of Disney/ABC Television Group.

Editor’s note: FactCheck.org is one of several organizations working with Facebook to debunk misinformation shared on social media. Our previous stories can be found here.




Hmmmm. Fact checkers who work closely with Face blook. Now everyone knows fb isn’t biased at all !
 

shaggyballs

Active member
Veteran
Hmmmm. Fact checkers who work closely with Face blook. Now everyone knows fb isn’t biased at all !

Who checks the fact checker?
Anyone?

Should we even trust them?
How many times have they been wrong?

People put their trust in strange places.
 

shaggyballs

Active member
Veteran
I would like to check to facts on this too.

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Gypsy Nirvana

Recalcitrant Reprobate -
Administrator
Veteran
- he always did look like he knew what was going on -


*yeah - we have to check the fact-checkers - before we can check the facts - and then check the fact-checkers facts - the circle of life - chasing tails -
 
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