Everybody a breeder ?

[Tom Hill]

Nota, this is why doing away with the male (or reintroducing him later) makes a shitload of sense. But even if folk have an issue with that, and don't want to go there, determining the best female to breed to is a HUGE leap forward, maths wise. IE let's say you can grow 10 plants, you're now testing 9 males against your best (again, extremely likely) female instead of 5 males and 5 females you know nothing about, dig? There are maths we could put to it, but let's just say it's VASTLY advantagous to go about it in the former way.

 

[TheArchitect]

You clowns. Lol

I don't breed. And, to refer to people who produce fine genetics with basic breeding practice, irregardless of their scientific understanding of them, as clowns, further shows your arrogance.

 

[Tom Hill]

Stupid is as stupid does bro...

 

[astartes]

Regardless of what you may think, irregardless is not a word.

a.

 

[GMT]

I hate that word arrogance. It implies that the confidence gained through a lifetime of success is unjustified.

 

[TheArchitect]

Irregardless originated in dialectal American speech in the early 20th century. Its fairly widespread use in speech called it to the attention of usage commentators as early as 1927. The most frequently repeated remark about it is that “there is no such word.” There is such a word, however. It is still used primarily in speech, although it can be found from time to time in edited prose. Its reputation has not risen over the years, and it is still a long way from general acceptance. Use regardless instead.

FTR

 

[Tom Hill]

brilliant addition to the thread, I am sure it will be great value to folks here, jesus fucking christ..

 

[TheArchitect]

I hate that word arrogance. It implies that the confidence gained through a lifetime of success is unjustified.

I don't mean it like that, and it's clear tom has an immense understanding of the scientific side.

His methods may speed things up, and make certain outcomes more likely, but they aren't they only way, and to refer to people as clowns just shows a general contempt of them.

Maybe arrogance was the wrong choice, a bit hyperbolic.

 

[Tom Hill]

Frank if the best smoking plant is not reproducible then what is the point bro?

 

[Weird]

make your money while you can cause once they can sell people seeds game is changing again

they also hold patents on cannabinoid composition so what you breed they might own anyway


Breeding programme

GW's team includes experts in Cannabis breeding. In the genetic model used, the cannabinoid content of each chemical phenotype (chemotype) is controlled by four independent loci. By manipulating the genes at these four positions, our scientists can precisely control the cannabinoid composition of a plant.

This is explained in the diagram below:

http://www.gwpharm.com/cultivation.aspx

 

[Tom Hill]

let's say you're deep into that half-sib family selection I proposed to Matt earlier, or my favorite (because it is most efficient) the pedigree method. You will be faced with at times the decision to can a family due to it's failure to be homogeneous.. When all of the sudden, the one plant you breed to in the family delivers the lottery. So yes, even though plant number 2 is not the most homozygous in the group it doesn't necessarily mean it's time to give up on that family. These are the decisions a breeder is faced with, possibly according to the numbers he can handle. But none of that translates to giving up on or arguing against the science altogether by any stretch of the imagination.

 

[NotaProfessor]

Nota, this is why doing away with the male (or reintroducing him later) makes a shitload of sense. But even if folk have an issue with that, and don't want to go there, determining the best female to breed to is a HUGE leap forward, maths wise. IE let's say you can grow 10 plants, you're now testing 9 males against your best (again, extremely likely) female instead of 5 males and 5 females you know nothing about, dig? There are maths we could put to it, but let's just say it's VASTLY advantagous to go about it in the former way.

Got it. Thanks!

 

[xmobotx]

i m guessing here but; the progeny of a male could be selfed to quantify that male

 

[TheArchitect]

I was unaware selfing for stability in future progeny of traditional xy breeding was a complex, mysterious concept.

 

[Tom Hill]

you were entirely unaware of everything, next you'll be saying,,, "just like I said before" lol

 

[Tom Hill]

No frank, you can call it art if you want, but mathmen call it by guess and by golly, because that's exactly what it is.

 

[TheArchitect]

Was being sarcastic. It seems like common sense to me, and I dont create seed.

 

[Tom Hill]

I am following you regarding your sarcasm, you following me regarding reality?

 

[TheArchitect]

Forever lost in a state of confusion in regards to your post, outside of the occasional moment of clear articulation.

 

[Tom Hill]

The moral of the story is they never picked up a book.