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Do You Think Medical Marijuana Should Be Legalized for Dogs?

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Do You Think Medical Marijuana Should Be Legalized for Dogs?

Cannabis relieves pain and suffering in dogs, but most vets want nothing to do with it. What do you think?

By Julia Szabo

Christine L. of Nevada misses her Rottweiler, Sampson, who passed away on November 20, 2012 of a rare form of blood cancer. "In 2010, between the vomiting and diarrhea, he was losing two pounds a day," she recalls. Unable to afford chemotherapy, she felt helpless watching her best friend waste away to 64 pounds, less than three quarters of his fighting weight.

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Sampson, poster dog for the pain-relieving benefits of medical marijuana. Photo courtesy Christine Lan

Then Christine stumbled upon a controversial homemade herbal remedy that she credits with enormously improving her dog's quality of life. She's grateful that, in his final year, Sampson weighed in at a robust 106 pounds and lived free of the wracking pain that had haunted him. Whereas before Sampson had been too weak to walk, almost overnight he became a born-again youngster. "He was a puppy again, happy and playful," Christine recalls. "He'd trot around the house with his toys in his mouth, wanting to play fetch!"

The name of the controversial herbal remedy Sampson took? Cannabis.

Inspired by reports of medical marijuana helping human cancer patients, Christine started digging online. The search terms? "How to administer cannabis to a dog." Christine -- who, for the record, is not a recreational cannabis user -- was initially concerned about giving it to her dog because of the bad press she'd heard about the plant. But after giving Sampson cannabis flower-bud material mixed with virgin coconut oil (which the Rotti lapped up gladly), she noticed a huge difference in the dog's attitude almost immediately.

"Cannabis saved my dog's life," she says. "It brought him back from the brink."

Since Sampson's passing, Christine consoles herself by reaching out to others in a similar situation. Online, she found Dr. Doug Kramer, whose mission is to improve pets' quality of life by outlining safe and effective dosing guidelines. A conservative, clean-cut Californian, Kramer doesn't use marijuana himself for recreational or medicinal purposes. His goal, he says, is "to provide palliative care and prevent accidental overdoses resulting from owners' well-meaning attempts to relieve their pets' pain and suffering."

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Dr. Doug Kramer administers medical marijuana to Mason the Vizsla, who has late-stage cancer

Kramer's inspiration is Nikita, his beloved Husky, who died following a long battle with cancer. After studying the latest research on cannabis, he was moved to develop a homemade tincture and saw firsthand how it restored Nikita's appetite and allowed her to enjoy her final months to the fullest.

After Nikita's death, Kramer resolved to safely harness medical marijuana, aka MM or MMJ, to benefit other animals with incurable and terminal diseases. He's become an outspoken, tireless advocate of pain control for animals and has established a veterinary practice, Enlightened Veterinary Therapeutics, specializing in palliative and hospice care. He's the first vet in the country to offer cannabis consultations as part of a comprehensive treatment plan for pet patients.

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After receiving his dose of medical marijuana, Mason looks very relaxed

In doing so, Kramer is putting his professional reputation on the line and risking jail time. Veterinarians cannot prescribe MM for patients; it is illegal because cannabis is defined as a Schedule I drug by the FDA.

“The decision was an easy one for me to make," he says. "I refuse to condemn my patients to a miserable existence for self preservation or concerns about what may or may not happen to me as a consequence of my actions. My freedom of speech is clearly protected by the First Amendment to the Constitution. This is an issue of animal welfare, plain and simple. Remaining silent would represent a clear violation of the veterinarian’s oath I took when I was admitted into this profession."

With enough support from the general public and medical communities, the legality of cannabis could change. Yet despite mounting scientific evidence proving the herb's potent pain-relieving property -- plus increasing anecdotal evidence from dog owners who've experimented with MM successfully -- the veterinary mainstream wants cannabis weeded out, citing the risks of overdose and carcinogenic secondhand smoke.

As Ohio vet Neal J. Sivula explains, "I am very frustrated by veterinarians' seeming lack of interest in exploring this potentially very useful plant, Dr. Kramer being the exception. I am gathering that most veterinarians have not followed the changes in genetic strains of MM. Most think of MM only in terms of what might be purchased for illicit use and haven't done their research to know that strains have been developed with an eye toward pain control, nausea relief, and appetite stimulation with minimal reported side effects [in people]."

Although it's understandable why vets frown on sharing pot with pets for recreational purposes, when marijuana is administered orally via a tincture, in precise dosages prescribed by a vet with the goal of relieving unbearable pain, the smoke risk is eliminated, and the herb appears to do much more good than harm. Plus, cannabis doesn't adversely impact the liver, as many medications do. That's why, for every vet who opposes cannabis, there's another open to giving it a try -- once it's legalized.

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Dr. Sue Boynton of Santa Rosa, CA, hopes that -- like numerous other treatments used to help human patients, from homeopathy to hyperbaric oxygen therapy -- MM may soon be legally harnessed as a treatment option for pets.

"I see an awful lot of animals with cancer, and I treat them with conventional chemo," Boynton says. "I'm all about diagnostics -- ultrasound, radiology, blood work. I use it all to see what's going on with my patients. But then I like to add in other modalities, like Chinese herbs and homeopathy, because I think alternative medicine has a lot to offer. Why is cannabis not an option for pets, when it's so widespread as an option in the human world?"

Dr. Sivula recalls a dog patient with chronic arthritis who was being medicated by the owner when all other traditional pain medications had failed. MM was helpful in relieving the dog's discomfort.

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Nikita the Husky, inspiration behind Enlightened Veterinary Therapeutics. Photo courtesy of Dr. Doug Kramer

"Clients have asked about it for years, but the interest has grown since MM has been legalized in various states," Sivula says. "As veterinarians, the only discussion we have around MM is regarding toxic doses; because of the Schedule I problem, we don't even have any good research in animals to show if it can be used safely. The bottom line is that we absolutely need the DEA to reclassify MM so that it can be studied."

What do you think? Should medical marijuana be legalized for dogs? Would you use it on your dog? Let us know in the comments!

Source: http://www.dogster.com/lifestyle/medical-marijuana-for-dogs
 

GanjaRebelSeeds

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Veteran
Does anyone have any ideas for dosage information? I would assume it's roughly based on potency of the herb and the dogs weight.
Feel free to pm me with any info for pain relief for dogs with cannabis.
I'd be interested in the flowers mixed with coconut oil to help my best friend with sore hips and joints.
Thanks for posting this.
 

GanjaRebelSeeds

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ICMag Donor
Veteran
i medicated my shephard with it when he was 11 years old with hip displacia it worked very well

How much did you use?

I just took about a 1/10 th of a gram of high CBD and really high THC cannabis and mixed it with some coconut oil,then fed it to my 95 pound 5.5 year old dog with sore hips.
 

GanjaRebelSeeds

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Just got back from hiking with my dog,both of us medicated on about the same dosage of around 1/10th of a gram. His ingested by eating with coconut oil,mine from 2 reasonable sized bong hit from my new kick ass fancy Mobius percolator bong.
He is noticeably happier and acting like a pup again. He's smiling and chillin. He also seems a lot calmer and less anxious. He's sometimes anxious when we're hiking in the forest,today he seemed more confident and calm. We usually communicate really well but today it felt easier to communicate with him non verbally,we were both on the same page.

I see a calmer happier dog,who's more active and playful. He's laid down and gotten up a few times in the last half hour. No sore hips or joints from the way he's moving and acting.
Now he's taking a nap after starting at birds in the yard from the window.

I'm going to experiment with dosages and keep it as low as possible. He seems to really be enjoying himself.

Here's a pic of him smiling about 30 minutes ago.
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"After receiving his dose of medical marijuana, Mason looks very relaxed"

That picture gave me a hearty chuckle.

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I think medi cannabis could be very beneficial for certain dogs. Seems like the chance of complications would be low but there still should be some research done.

I know that when my mom's weimaraner was sedated for some procedures she was super stressed as she came off the drugs. She would just lay there all saggy eyed and cry for hours because she didn't know what was going on.

I know cannabis isn't the same thing but the dog has no idea why it feels different. Its natural instinct is probably to think it's eaten something poisonous. I imagine a gradual dosage increase and low psychedelic strain would be the way to go to avoid tripping out the dog. Simpson oil I imagine would be a good route.

No haze for old yeller.
 
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Some great info coming out here. Please keep this thread growing.
 
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Here is one reason we should support Dr Kramer

Using Cannabis Oil (THC) to treat cancer (Mast Cell Tumor) in a 7 year old Boxer. The tumor is nearly completely gone after 30 days of topical application. Owners report that as of the last few days they have started to see positive changes in his demeanor and alertness. He's started eating normal amounts of food again over the past couple days and has not vomited since Dec 3rd. Oral doses started on Nov 28th, topical application began on Nov 10th.

Pics are courtesy of my good friend Dr Bob Melamede.

 

GanjaRebelSeeds

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"After receiving his dose of medical marijuana, Mason looks very relaxed"

That picture gave me a hearty chuckle.

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I think medi cannabis could be very beneficial for certain dogs. Seems like the chance of complications would be low but there still should be some research done.

I know that when my mom's weimaraner was sedated for some procedures she was super stressed as she came off the drugs. She would just lay there all saggy eyed and cry for hours because she didn't know what was going on.

I know cannabis isn't the same thing but the dog has no idea why it feels different. Its natural instinct is probably to think it's eaten something poisonous. I imagine a gradual dosage increase and low psychedelic strain would be the way to go to avoid tripping out the dog. Simpson oil I imagine would be a good route.

No haze for old yeller.

My dog has been through the same thing when coming off powerful anesthesia. He woke up crying,disoriented,and scared. He's been through it a few times.

Cannabis is very different. First off,like humans,all mammals,dogs included as well as even reptiles have natural cannabinoid receptors in their brain. There has got to be a reason evolution has done this.

I am also aware that dogs organs process chemicals and things like cannabis differently than ours. So keeping a low dose is very important to me. I would never want my dog to feel overwhelmed or uncomfortable.

I'm going to look into juicing fan leaves or tinctures,but in the mean time I'm going to do some experimenting.
 
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Check this amazing Veterinarian. It is the first Vet practice in the world to openly offer medical marijuana palliative and hospice care for pets. This is EXTRAORDINARY!!!!!!

This truly is extraordinary!!!!!

Enlightened Veterinary Therapeutics http://enlightenedveterinarytherapeutics.com/

Professional Veterinary Services Provided

Comprehensive Palliative Care Treatment Plans
Prescription of Pain and Anti-anxiety Medications (if medically appropriate)
Medical Marijuana Consultations and Recommendations
Physical Examinations and Thorough Review of Medical History
Supportive & Terminal Medical Care – Control of symptoms
Education & Support in Bereavement
Supportive Nutrition and Diet formulation
Quality of Life Evaluations


This personal journal began with Dr Kramer’s own personal pet; a husky named “Nikita” who was suffering from cancer. As the disease progressed, Nikita rapidly lost weight and eventually spent the majority of the time lying inactive on the floor intermittently moaning or vocalizing . She apparently lost interest in the daily activities that once brought her so much joy and happiness. After exhausting every conventional pain control medication and therapy available, Dr. Kramer began administering medical marijuana tincture to Nikita in a last ditch effort to improve her quality of life. The results were nothing short of amazing. Within hours of the first treatment Nikita had regained her strong appetite and was actively searching the entire home for any morsel of food that may have fallen onto the ground. She appeared to be much more comfortable overall and the moaning ceased entirely. It’s was as if she had been reborn and given a second lease on life.

While the cannabis did not cure the cancer, it did afford Nikita and her family several more months of quality time together. Following her death, Dr. Kramer dedicated himself to researching and documenting the therapeutic benefits of medical marijuana for pets for the benefit of his other patients.

Dr Kramer has authored a scientific research paper, several articles and is considered the foremost authority on this topic by the veterinary community. Based on his work, surveys and personal experiences Dr. Kramer is currently authoring a book detailing the therapeutic role of medical marijuana in veterinary medicine. He remains fully committed to honoring the principles outlined in the veterinarian’s oath he took when he was first admitted into the profession.

The Veterinarian’s Oath:
“Being admitted to the profession of veterinary medicine, I solemnly swear to use my scientific knowledge and skills for the benefit of society through the protection of animal health and welfare, the prevention and relief of animal suffering, the conservation of animal resources, the promotion of public health, and the advancement of medical knowledge.”

At Home Euthanasia and 3rd Party Cremation Service
 

Growcephus

Member
Veteran
Cannabis should be legal.

Period.

Whether or not it's good for our 4 legged comrades I'll leave up to the veterinary medicine specialists.
 

GMT

The Tri Guy
Veteran
wow now they're raiding and charging dogs? I think we should wait till the dogs are serving sentences before putting effort into legalising for dogs
 

Littleleaf

Well-known member
Veteran
we wouldn't need to treat them for cancer if it wasn't for vaccines with live cancer causing viruses in them and GMO corn,soybeans in their food.
Vaccine was the cause of my dog dieing of cancer. It started rite were I gave him his shot within a month of administering it a bump appeared.
 

wantaknow

ruger 500
Veteran
i would use 1 gram dried in a dehydrator ,it activates the thc then dipped it in olive oil and wraped in hamburger meat ,wait 2 hours be for you try to med again ,its slower but last longer that way,you could tell he was stoned he just relaxed and slept
 
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1gm is an awful lot for a dog to have in one go. I think a lower titration would be better.
 

wantaknow

ruger 500
Veteran
i might also add that tangy tangerine is a powder drink mix that columbia university just finished a study on that was amazing,kills cancer cells ,this would be a great additive to mix in meat to give to your pets,they dont get the nutes they need either
 
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only if the dog never worked for the cops ......... a narc dog is still a narc
 

mr.rogers67

Active member
This old guy has been browsing on mj leaves for years. If he dosent feel good he will eat around the bottom edge. He likes the small tender leaves,he will not eat the buds so thats good. In Dec 2011 he was very sick ,thought he was going to die,went to check on him and he gone so I walk down to the grow spot and there he was looking for his medicine . Later on he was ok.
 

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