Did You See BOG Genetics On Geraldo?

[Mr. Freeman]

Classy, I understand where you are coming from, and respect your loyalties, but I'm asking a favor of you from me, to back off this issue for a bit.

My take is Gypsy has reached his hand out in friendship and forgivness. Lets give that a chance and see if see where it goes. I'm hoping it's a two way street. If it's not we'll talk to Gypsy and see what direction we go with this.

I'd also ask that everyone else do the same thing.....

Nice! After all, bog got most of his genetics from here. Right? It would only make sense...

Hope I can score some more sourbubble, crossing my fingers and hoping it won't be too expensive cause those auctions on bogglegum and bogbubble are just to high priced. Doesn't anyone remember when BOG beans were $50 bucks?! I do....I wish those days were back.

Here's to BOG and Gypsy setting their differences aside... puff puff...lol

Peace to all.

 

[Mr. Freeman]

Even though, I would like to smoke weed freely. Deep down inside me I hope it never becomes legal. This would make only the gov't profit and regulate weed which will most likely suck. They'll probably start putting chemicals in it just like tobacco. Fuck that,who's with me? lol

 

[BushyOldGrower]

Sorry but...

Sorry but...

I started coming back to tell people where I had been and what I am doing. California law is one thing but shipping out of state is forbidden by the feds. I moved here to get legal you see.

I never raised my prices and at Harborside BOG Seeds are 60-70 bucks a pack. I am still discussing things with Gypsy but unless he would like to ship from California I guess we can't do it. I have come out to a degree in my state so you have to understand.

Thanks JJScorpio and Payaso for the clip. JJScorpio stated,"I'm not sure what good this is if we aren't able to get any of the seeds."

Why would you say that originally? What good am I here? I teach growing to many and I have a large following who missed me dude. What seed company do you know of that has this sort of national coverage? It's a mindblower to me so I just wanted to show you all that it ever happened and that they were positive about it at the end of the show.

I felt a little guilty living my happy life without ever visiting my many friends. Did I ever imply that I would ship out of state? I am sorry if I did.

Please realize that the seed business is not the main thing I do and that the only reason I am back is because I am within the law in California. I would say Tim at the Casa Collective was sticking his neck out plenty doing that segment. Unfortunately the point of this thread looked like a promotion.

I got sick of this before and I am getting a bit sick of the off topic shit that always comes up when I post. Want me to leave and stay away? I could easily do that and if Gypsy didn't want me here or the webmaster I wouldn't be so save the damn judgements for yourselves. BOG

These guys know how to chill... That's Mrs. BOG with the BogBoat...

 

[BushyOldGrower]

About legalization now...

Forget that you are a grower and ask yourself if you don't think it should be legal.

People still go to jail and lose jobs over pot.

This healthy alternative to alcohol and tobacco is kinda expensive under this system.

I agree that corporate farms shouldn't be taking over a nice cottage industry but there has to be a reasonable alternative compromise. Winery's still compete and so do organic farms and Local Brews. You may say that of course BOG wants it legal cause he has this seed company and you would be right.

So I am biased for legalization by my own personal situation unlike many growers who fear lower prices or no business at all. I understand these reasonable concerns and this is a good debate to have. Clubs for the medical patients that are tax free and non-profit is what will probably happen if california really does legalize and we lead the way often in America. I see a lower taxed club based medical user community and a higher taxed over 21 market. This would still leave room for many club members to grow for a living and lets consider the quality from commercial growers. Will it really be as good as my shit?

Not unless I help them. LOL BOG

 

[Greyskull]

About legalization now...

Forget that you are a grower and ask yourself if you don't think it should be legal.

People still go to jail and lose jobs over pot.

This healthy alternative to alcohol and tobacco is kinda expensive under this system.

I agree that corporate farms shouldn't be taking over a nice cottage industry but there has to be a reasonable alternative compromise. Winery's still compete and so do organic farms and Local Brews. You may say that of course BOG wants it legal cause he has this seed company and you would be right.

So I am biased for legalization by my own personal situation unlike many growers who fear lower prices or no business at all. I understand these reasonable concerns and this is a good debate to have. Clubs for the medical patients that are tax free and non-profit is what will probably happen if california really does legalize and we lead the way often in America. I see a lower taxed club based medical user community and a higher taxed over 21 market. This would still leave room for many club members to grow for a living and lets consider the quality from commercial growers. Will it really be as good as my shit?

Not unless I help them. LOL BOG

good call

 

[THE PABLOS]

Hey BOG....1st off I have much respect for you and your talents(I've grown and bred with more than one of your strains) but legalizing will put an end to the herb as we know it. There is no way the Government isn't going to tax patients if full legalization were to happen. They tax all meds now...why would it be different? I pay health insurance every month....why would it be any different? Can't have it one way and not the other dude. Decriminalize yes...is that not what is slowly happening in California(I live here too)...I had the DEA snout in my face(with drawn weapons) in an Ocean Beach(San Diego) med club 4yrs ago...but I didn't go to jail...this was during a raid on the club and I had a valid card and was there just checking it out....I walked but not before being treated like a criminal...so yeah it's wrong that they do not respect states rights.

Peeps are dreaming-however-if they think they will be running the grow show if it were to be legalized...there is way too much money in it for the corporations....and my friend...they are leaps and bounds ahead of us. They will turn it into another strain of corn...subsidize it with their lobbiest and we will not even understand the language of the regulations they will impose. I hear you on the vineyards...nice dream...how many private tobacco fields do you see? And they get away with that poison....sure they pay out once in awhile but that is not even a dent in their profits. Those are some of the corporations we will be dealing with. The pharmaceutical corps will finish us off....and look like stars doing it.

This country makes a lot of its money on the prison system...state,fed, and private...it provides all kinds of jobs....as does "the war on drugs"....it is not going to change imo. It would make no sense for them to lose their revenue...if they were to legalize it would come with a whole new set of rules that would force us to break them...they are not going to give that cash flow up no matter how evil and immoral it has become. I think they fear weed(as they have obviously run out of arguements to the point they ignore the voice of the peeps....Hello California!!! Your vote means nothing to us and we will fight your will with trumped up propaganda...Mex cartels growing in the state...watch out!!!! Be very afraid!!!!) and for this lifelong stoner(started smoking 13/14 yrs old....Jimmy Carter was President) to have the government fear something speaks volumes. I've done time for weed too...it is not pleasent but I have to admitt I don't fear them coming and locking me up anymore with the 215 in place. Slap my wrist...if my vote means nothing...ouch!!!!

BOG you are a pro....do you really want these jack asses coming along and ruining all the hard work...dismiss all the risk you've taken...make it all for not so some corporations and their government dogs can make a financial killing? Do you think they will properly care for our sacred herb? Or do you think they will rape, exploit, and drown its spirit like they have done to the majority of its subjects? It doesn't love the weed....it doesn't love us...it loves power.

They have given us somewhat of a concession with prop 215(just let the feds know lol)....let us dream...but the reality is things are better now than say when Rambo Ronnie was in office....or Clinton....or Nixon. I smoke pretty freely...but discreetly....and that-to me-is far better than letting the Evil Empire grow my buds. Peace

 

[JJScorpio]

I started coming back to tell people where I had been and what I am doing. California law is one thing but shipping out of state is forbidden by the feds. I moved here to get legal you see.

I never raised my prices and at Harborside BOG Seeds are 60-70 bucks a pack. I am still discussing things with Gypsy but unless he would like to ship from California I guess we can't do it. I have come out to a degree in my state so you have to understand.

Thanks JJScorpio and Payaso for the clip. JJScorpio stated,"I'm not sure what good this is if we aren't able to get any of the seeds."

Why would you say that originally? What good am I here? I teach growing to many and I have a large following who missed me dude. What seed company do you know of that has this sort of national coverage? It's a mindblower to me so I just wanted to show you all that it ever happened and that they were positive about it at the end of the show.

I felt a little guilty living my happy life without ever visiting my many friends. Did I ever imply that I would ship out of state? I am sorry if I did.

Please realize that the seed business is not the main thing I do and that the only reason I am back is because I am within the law in California. I would say Tim at the Casa Collective was sticking his neck out plenty doing that segment. Unfortunately the point of this thread looked like a promotion.

I got sick of this before and I am getting a bit sick of the off topic shit that always comes up when I post. Want me to leave and stay away? I could easily do that and if Gypsy didn't want me here or the webmaster I wouldn't be so save the damn judgements for yourselves. BOG

These guys know how to chill... That's Mrs. BOG with the BogBoat...

By saying " what good does this do if we can't get anything" meant why tease ourselves if we can't get any of the seeds. I don't think anyone else took it as a negative comment. It meant nothing in regards to your returning to the site. I hope that clears it up for you....... I'm here to be your friend BOG, not your enemy....

I think we could all put our heads together and come up with a way for yourself and Gypsy to again get your seeds to others that need and want them. But I don't think Gypsy shipping out of Cali is the answer. If Gypsy were to get your seeds he could at least sell to those people in Countries that are legal and the States that have passed med laws without breaking the law any further than what is being done now. Obama has stated publicly that he will leave it up to the individual states that want to pass med laws and they will not interfere. So basically he would be doing nothing diffrently than you are doing now regarding trusting Obama's word. As long as Gypsy posts a disclaimer that you don't want your seeds shipped anywhere that breaks laws, and that you want all laws followed, it would be on him after that. It would just be nice to see something like this happening again between you two.

Again my friend. I meant no disrespect or negativity towards you in any manner. I'll give you a big hug but don't take it the wrong way, lmao....

 

[ocean99]

Hey pablos and other folks, I really hate to be nitpicky, but marijuana will never ever ever be "legalized". Legalization would mean zero legislation, something the west is too crooked to comprehend. Marijuana can be re legislated or decriminalized (much like booze), but legalization is a pipe dream.

Just capt. grammarian stopping in with his

 

[ocean99]

Oh, and just a thought here, I'm in cali and am a short road trip away from harborside. Would bog be against someone like me making f2's and shipping them to sb as freebies? I would think for the time being until an arrangement can be made this would be an excellent compromise...

 

[THE PABLOS]

Ocean99- Nice catch...nitpickin' works for me...in this case I don't feel we would find ourselves at opposite ends...but yeah terminology wise I agree with you...grammar is not one of my strong points lol....I've been up since predawn working in my garden and I'm just generally an "off" individual.

 

[tRuKemist]

Thank you BOG for everything you've done! I can't believe it's been almost a decade! Learning from you back in the OG daze has been quite rewarding! I didn't even have a digital camera yet, as I didn't get my first one until 2004! I just have to give you many thanks for sharing your techniques! To this day, I still grow organically indoors in soil and still make use of BOG's step method for transplanting! I've been very pleased with your genetics over the years and very much look forward to putting them back in my garden!
peace,
tRu

 

[K.J]

I saw it the other day online. Very nice! Those plants looked amazing. I just hope we don't see this guy on the news again next week after the cops decide to raid him. It often happens after these guys flaunt it on some news program. Did you notice at one point how they still imaged a good shot of his face, almost as if to give the cops another good look so they know who to go after?

 

[ocean99]

Ocean99- Nice catch...nitpickin' works for me...in this case I don't feel we would find ourselves at opposite ends...but yeah terminology wise I agree with you...grammar is not one of my strong points lol....I've been up since predawn working in my garden and I'm just generally an "off" individual.

Not exactly opposite ends, but I'm not so cynical about it. Since prohibition has been in effect so long in our case, we've become some damn good bootleggers. I don't think they could keep us out of the profit loop no matter how hard they tried, they obviously can't stop us from producing grade A schedule 1 substances in the comfort of our own homes, why would it be any different if they tried to take over? No, I see our community becoming prolific members of society in any sort of decriminalization/legalization scenarios. The seasoned professionals who produce the dank the masses inhale will have no problem carrying over into an ideal world.

But then again, I'm an idealist.

 

[THE PABLOS]

...and I totally respect that dude...I'm a bit cynical yes but it doesn't blind me into anger...I like the idea of becoming prolific members in those scenarios as well but I just don't believe they would let us...damn fine bootleggers is all we may ever be...and honestly that doesn't depress me at all. Please excuse the early morning cynicism...my only true worry is for the integrity of all the years of clandestine breeding and growing that has brought the drug cannabis to where it is now. It would hurt me to see it passed off to those who would not respect the plant the way the underground has. We'll see what happens....hopefully we are not now living in the good old daze. And that last bit is not cynicism but straight up "hope". If you think you would be making money as a bootlegger in decrim scenarios...don't think so as weed would be cheap and the cost to grow it(the corporations would not want us growing so that would be regulated yet again...LEO needs to turn a dime after all) would out weigh the gains...even if they tax at $50 a zip the cost would still be low...I don't think they would tax it that high anyway...just to offset the black market. Grown in massive fields the cost of weed would be like comercial Mex is now...even less. Most peeps would buy the corporate weed anyway because it would be reasonablely cheap and convenient to do so...why go to the black market when you can go to the store....and the bud will be passable quality wise for the majority. If you went indoors you'd be broke quick. Like I said I respect what you're saying and your idealism...I like your scenario much better than mine in fact...I just don't see it happening that way. I thank you for the chat.

 

[Rose56]

Bog, Too cool! I hope the day comes soon when I get the chance to grow your genetics.

 

[Donald Mallard]

I started coming back to tell people where I had been and what I am doing. California law is one thing but shipping out of state is forbidden by the feds. I moved here to get legal you see.

I never raised my prices and at Harborside BOG Seeds are 60-70 bucks a pack. I am still discussing things with Gypsy but unless he would like to ship from California I guess we can't do it. I have come out to a degree in my state so you have to understand.

Thanks JJScorpio and Payaso for the clip. JJScorpio stated,"I'm not sure what good this is if we aren't able to get any of the seeds."

Why would you say that originally? What good am I here? I teach growing to many and I have a large following who missed me dude. What seed company do you know of that has this sort of national coverage? It's a mindblower to me so I just wanted to show you all that it ever happened and that they were positive about it at the end of the show.

I felt a little guilty living my happy life without ever visiting my many friends. Did I ever imply that I would ship out of state? I am sorry if I did.

Please realize that the seed business is not the main thing I do and that the only reason I am back is because I am within the law in California. I would say Tim at the Casa Collective was sticking his neck out plenty doing that segment. Unfortunately the point of this thread looked like a promotion.

I got sick of this before and I am getting a bit sick of the off topic shit that always comes up when I post. Want me to leave and stay away? I could easily do that and if Gypsy didn't want me here or the webmaster I wouldn't be so save the damn judgements for yourselves. BOG

These guys know how to chill... That's Mrs. BOG with the BogBoat...

Hey bog , nice to see you man , hope your doing dandy in the sunny state over there ..
Just something iwas wondering about the seed thing,
what if i went to california for example and purchased a kg of your seeds, then flew back to where ever i came from and began to sell them over the internet ,, what sort of implications does that have for you ?
Like its not like you are selling anything illegally is it? it would be me doing that , your transaction in cali was perfectly above board ..
Does it work like that or is there some other problem?
seems the law has trouble sewing up every avenue we can think of .

 

[Care Free 1]

Just something iwas wondering about the seed thing,
what if i went to california for example and purchased a kg of your seeds, then flew back to where ever i came from and began to sell them over the internet.

Now thats something I wish I could do. A kg of BOG genetics

 

[Gypsy Nirvana]

Yeah......BOG and myself have a long history around the plant and this here internet.....and I hear his concerns on trying to stay as legal as he can, neither of us relish the thought of finding ourselves behind the wrong sort of bars........Both of us built up a good reputation by growing and showing then supplying the seeds of possibilities globally.....I still do and will continue upon my quest to help out anyone that needs the knowledge and the genetic material to be able to grow their own and so not have to go out and try to score cannabis from unreliable and potentially dangerous sources.........That is why ICMAG is here now, has been for 5 and a half years and will continue to grow with it's members as long as I can keep it going....

I was the first and only distributor of BOG's beans for many years. We both came to trust and respect each other around 10 years or so ago on Overgrow and I encouraged him initially to make seeds that he could distribute thru my seed companies because so many growers were inspired and in awe of what he so graphically posted in words and pictures and wanted to grow the same sort of erb'.......and BOG led them by the hand and taught them his way of growing and for many it worked out just fine.....

It is good to see him back here after such a long hiatus, he does have alot to offer......I just wish that I could still supply what he is currently working with in seed form to stop all these e-mails and P.M.'s I keep getting from those that want to still grow something from BOG......somehow there must be a way.......Maybe I should go to Cali and buy up all the BOG beans I can find then bung them up on Seedbay?.....lol

 

[ocean99]

Hey Gypsy like I said there's many of us who could make f2's here in cali, some probably a lot quicker than I can. If BOG is cool with it I think a lot of people would be very grateful.

 

[Big Bud Bear]

the first weed plant i ever grew then smoked was bog bubble, what good shit it was