Did Trump save face by breaking America’s commitment to the JCPOA?

[vta]

tRUMP means nothing to me, he won't be around for long.

I was being polite, I meant to say "Those Iranian's don't know jack shirt." period, you're quoting again from your non-msm ulatra conservative websites. garbage press.



and I thought we were friends.......

You edited this post after my reply...as far as web sites go...it's either one or the other. There is no middle ground as far as the press is concerned.

All cool...except the part about Trump not being around for long. Please enlighten me on how he won't be around for long. Do you not think he won't be reelected...or do you believe in the Russia fairy tale?

 

[Mikell]

Trump and Obama leveled sanctions against Russia for election interference. Kind of a sad joke given American foreign policy for the last 80 years.

Always with the back handed derogatory comments. Maybe you should try and get laid. Not sure how you 'Identify' but i'm sure there is someone out there that would help you out. Good luck !

Nothing back handed about it, I called you a simpleton.

You assume there are two types of people, a black and white version of the world that has never existed. Why? Because it is simple. Reality and its beautiful complexity is far beyond simple distinctions. You are the primary target social media manipulation was directed at to elect Trump, push Brexit and a variety of other Luddite movements.


The websites you read, the FB posts, the YT channels, are all created for content, closer to pornography than news. The odd kernel of truth wrapped in divisive opinion to sell it hard to people who have never fact checked anything objectively beyond to see what they already believe.

This is the internet version of some feeble minded ass trying to talk about something they read in the National Enquirer.


Surprise surprise gender politics. Now get to the part about how this is Hillary's fault.

 

[gaiusmarius]

Israel is responding to rocket attacks by Iranian forces from Syrian territory. if they had come from Iranian territory, Iranians would be hating it tonight. that is why there are Iranians in Syria, they hope to keep Tehran standing as a city. if Iran had any balls at all, they would shoot from THEIR back yard instead of making Syrians lives even more dangerous...i see where Russia has decided NOT to sent their latest/greatest missile defense system into Syria. it would look bad to have it shown to suck in public...

oh i see, the last 100 Israeli air attacks on Syrian land in the last 7 years, somehow always coincidentally timed to help isis and al qaida, has been in retaliation for the supposed 20 missiles Iran supposedly sent at the occupied Golan hights the day before yesterday? aha i see, good to know how it is.

 

[jimdc]

6 1/2 more years of TDS. love it. but you libbies keep screaming "any day now". you should pace yourself because after 8 years of Trump and America winning, i doubt that we will ever have another democrap as president. and a day off for fucking with libbies? i took a week.

 

[Mikell]

If Liberals are Libbies, doesn't that make Conservatives Connies?


Apt. Both of ya'll sound like whiney women.

 

[gaiusmarius]

6 1/2 more years of TDS. love it. but you libbies keep screaming "any day now". you should pace yourself because after 8 years of Trump and America winning, i doubt that we will ever have another democrap as president. and a day off for fucking with libbies? i took a week.

this is an international forum, most of us thought we were beyond making war and winning against each other by now, so we don't get excited by the prospect of America winning, sorry about that, i want my country to win, if you mean be successful. ideally we want want both sides in a deal to feel they are winning, as only that way are both sides interested in committing to any deal. so if all you see for yourself is winning against everyone else, you might find you have less and less friends in the world the more "winning" you guys do, specially if you are talking about the kind of one sided winning i fear you are talking about.

 

[Stoner4Life]

You are right Gypsy..I apologize Stoner. I hope this recent riff doesn't have an effect on the decade long friendship we share. I understand that political differences can heat up the moment and I want to make sure, as a fellow American, that you know I care about you. I also love you in the non-gay bromance way Gypsy pointed out. A kind of ICMag kinship.

Your apology is certainly accepted and please accept my apology vta; heat of the moment words and attitudes in forums have always had similar outcomes, so yes, it's time for both of us to accept & respect each other as friends again and not as divided warring factions. peace to you brother vta

 

[Satyros]

Yeah maybe?

American arms vs Iran/China.

Whoops that's a hard no.

It is? The M1 tanks that get knocked out by Yemenis with portable rockets?

"American arms" are obsolete. Saudi & Israeli reporting is almost 100% deceit. In Israel, you may not report on a soldier's funeral. Americans lie pretty solidly too, like with the Tomahawk attacks. Almost completely ineffective. Patriot missiles have almost no capability against missiles with separatng warheads like the Yemenis are firing.

Saud & Israel are sitting on a pile of expensive junk and no real soldiers. One-sided reporting may have it appear otherwise, but there was a major emergency in the Golan the other day requiring over fifty ambulances and multiple med-evac helicopters. Their 9900 super spy unit may not have any assets left.

 

[igrowone]

nothing like a middle east mess to mess with your mind
one part i don't see mentioned too much
as i understand it, the average iranian tends to hate arabs
and arabs seem to feel much the same, stereotyping i know
but saudi arabia seems to have crossed the line with israel with back door treaties of a sort
the saudi's fear and mistrust iran, strongly
if there was actually a war, who shoots at who could get interesting

 

[gaiusmarius]

i did read a lot of conflicting reports about the exchange between Syrian ground and the Israeli occupied Golan hights. there is even talk of 2 more downed f15's, but i think it's probably propaganda. would be hard for Israel to keep a bunch of casualties or destruction to one of their bases in the occupied golan hights secret? either way, Syria is not just letting Israel hit Syrian soil without retaliating, this is a change from previous operating procedure by the Syrian arab army. Syria did admit that it lost a weapons storage facility as well as some air defense systems. they claim some 28 Israeli jets were involved and that they shot from outside Syrian air space, making retaliation quite hard as the window is short. Syrians did say that they stopped about half the incoming missiles. they claimed to have retaliated with 50 ground to ground missiles aimed at a Israeli military base in the occupied Golan Heights. it could be that some got through the air defenses and thats why all the ambulances were needed, but so far its just a rumor.

 

[gaiusmarius]

Corbert report does a really good job analyzing stuff from all open source info, he's very objective and always gives you source links for everything.

The REAL Middle East Nuclear Threat

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[Hammerhead]

That's why making threads like this is useless..The political climate has gotten so bad everyone hates ea other. How sad is that. I don't see anyone coming to there senses until Trumps gone. It all started with him.

 

[Mikell]

Radar isn't new. I imagine if the Israeli's were full of it, any of their half dozen enemies with spitting distance with the capacity for 1950's technology would be happy to provide embarrasing evidence to counter their reports.

whos whining? im on the winning team. i just love fucking with liberals with actual facts that they despise. im loving every day that trump is president and will enjoy the next 6 1/2 years of him. how about you. still whining that the **** lost?

I'm Canadian. American politics are a joke up here, nothing more. Your Orange Leader is taken just a mite more seriously than Kim or Khomeini.

Keep up the whiney ranting. Never heard of sore winners until you women came about

 

[Stoner4Life]

That's why making threads like this is useless..The political climate has gotten so bad everyone hates ea other. How sad is that. I don't see anyone coming to there senses until Trumps gone. It all started with him.

tRUMP is our country's great divider, the political sides are absolutely polarized, they're sharing or conceding NO middle ground with one another. And that bloated potus continues to stuff his face KFC & MickeyD style while American's go hungry.

With his diet & his lies I think the stress of this job will kill him.


Sorry Gaius & all you other folk, I stuck this in the wrong thread, I hope the radical edit helps it to better fit in.......

 

[igrowone]

...
With his diet & his lies I think the stress of this job will kill him.

been wondering how long before the 1st big health event
i hope some trump supporters will take in just how strange a situation this is
his first "doctor" has admitted to allowing trump to dictate his own health report
not saying it's illegal(probably should be), but come on, this is normal?

 

[Rubber Chicken]

been wondering how long before the 1st big health event
i hope some trump supporters will take in just how strange a situation this is
his first "doctor" has admitted to allowing trump to dictate his own health report
not saying it's illegal(probably should be), but come on, this is normal?

It's because he's the most vain guy you're ever likely to encounter.

And his method of 'leadership' is very similar to that of Kim Jong Un- keep people in the dark because if they knew 10% of who he really is they would have never voted for him, and when it all unravels he will probably end up hanging in the streets like Mussolini.

 

[mean mr.mustard]

whats the democrats message for 2018 or 2020? raise taxes to take care of homeless and illegals and resist trump. FUCKING DUMBEST ever message to real americans. all you foreigners STFU. like hank jr. says MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS.

Trump didn't save face...

He revealed division.

Some are so rooted in it that they don't realize a world without hate is alright.

What does it matter if someone is a gender or nationality?

It should not count as a strike against their character...

Hate on but understand that although you are in the majority it doesn't make you a winner.

You're just being led by the nose by a buffoon that thinks it's cool to divide and conquer.

Loser.

 

[gaiusmarius]

the point about being a sore winner is so true.

while it also seems true that the msm are against Trump even when they shouldn't be, on the other hand he does provide a lot of ammo against himself.

as for the dem and rep or left and right thing, it's way too simplistic, i bet most of the participants in the thread are a complicated mixture of beliefs, they agree with some right and some left leaning policies.

making it a black or white issue is way too simplistic and can only result in the conflict between the sides growing.

 

[Gypsy Nirvana]

I think that its about people feeling like they have to pick one team or another, and back their team no-matter how ridiculous things might get.....to the bitter end.

...and things do get utterly ridiculous..

If people could only think outside the box of a two party system and not believe all the hype that goes on just to keep it that way, instead of being at each others throats.....there might be more unity...

But then again.... us humans are a feudal bunch, still in the throes of social and environmental evolution, many disasters are still to un-fold before we all might learn, ...and live to see a better day...

the point about being a sore winner is so true.

while it also seems true that the msm are against Trump even when they shouldn't be, on the other hand he does provide a lot of ammo against himself.

as for the dem and rep or left and right thing, it's way too simplistic, i bet most of the participants in the thread are a complicated mixture of beliefs, they agree with some right and some left leaning policies.

making it a black or white issue is way too simplistic and can only result in the conflict between the sides growing.

 

[jimdc]

obama was the great divider who got trump elected. he took the side of criminals over police. lbgt, blacks, muslims, illegal immigrants over white americans whenever he could. he blamed whites for everything under the sun. he went around the world on an apology tour to every country he could. he gave billions to terrorists. he will go down as the worst president ever and trump will go down as the best. trump is erasing every pos move obama made and it has been great. but keep spewing your hate for him because im loving it.

tRUMP is our country's great divider, the political sides are absolutely polarized, they're sharing or conceding NO middle ground with one another. And that bloated potus continues to stuff his face KFC & MickeyD style while American's go hungry.





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This thread is really about whether tRUMP is really going to hold to his word about leaving current state cannabis laws intact.

The picture above of him stuffing his ugly maw with fast food and the statement from his doctor quoted proves not only what a liar he is, but also that he doesn't care enough about himself to STOP killing himself.

With his diet & his lies I think the stress of this job will kill him.