I guess I can see both sides of that argument, I feel that seeing the actual stock, especially in the case of deep chunk, is important as DC is a very easy plant to spot
Deep Chunk
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I guess I can see both sides of that argument, I feel that seeing the actual stock, especially in the case of deep chunk, is important as DC is a very easy plant to spot
Got this questionable "deep chunk" blooming. When the resin glands first started developing, the smells weren't very impressive. Now that leaves are starting to get frostly, I can smell a deep coffee/skunky aroma with a sweet background to it, smells delicious! Started early June and never topped, these are a little more than 2 meters tall now.
Finally got a response from my contact and found out these seeds were actually from monkey balls via h@zem@n seeds. The description to the monkey balls listing says it was created by selfing an F1 selection of deep chunk, implying tom hill created deep chunk via an outcross. Seems not very credible to me: the deep chunk plants shown in this thread are very uniform, short, fat, squat, low yielding, very leafy, and consistently have the frosty leaf curl trait.
Now that I've grown this plant long enough, I suspect the breeder outcrossed it with something and then inbred that line to find a select plant (maybe he "dutch passioned" it. ie. DP outcrossed durban poison with another plant, selfed/selected it several generations and called their hybrid durban poison even though it was some sort of durban poison hybrid). These plants have way too much vigor, stretch, and yield to be the real deal. I'm a bit disappointed that it's probably not the real deal. That doesn't mean this isn't a good hybrid if that's what it turns out to be, but it seems to be a misleading, deceptive offering.
One plant is really "leaf curl dominant," which is the main trait I was after. I can't imagine these plants being low yield, we'll see what happens:
Here's the leaf curl trait:
Two phenotypes in this batch: taller, vigorous plants, and shorter, bushy ones like this. They all pretty much smell the same: very low odor at this stage:
The giant leaves and the leaf curl trait suggests deep chunk is in it, but the rest of the traits suggest this is a hybrid:
Finally got a response from my contact and found out these seeds were actually from monkey balls via h@zem@n seeds. The description to the monkey balls listing says it was created by selfing an F1 selection of deep chunk, implying tom hill created deep chunk via an outcross. Seems not very credible to me: the deep chunk plants shown in this thread are very uniform, short, fat, squat, low yielding, very leafy, and consistently have the frosty leaf curl trait.
Now that I've grown this plant long enough, I suspect the breeder outcrossed it with something and then inbred that line to find a select plant (maybe he "dutch passioned" it. ie. DP outcrossed durban poison with another plant, selfed/selected it several generations and called their hybrid durban poison even though it was some sort of durban poison hybrid). These plants have way too much vigor, stretch, and yield to be the real deal. I'm a bit disappointed that it's probably not the real deal. That doesn't mean this isn't a good hybrid if that's what it turns out to be, but it seems to be a misleading, deceptive offering.
One plant is really "leaf curl dominant," which is the main trait I was after. I can't imagine these plants being low yield, we'll see what happens:
Here's the leaf curl trait:
Two phenotypes in this batch: taller, vigorous plants, and shorter, bushy ones like this. They all pretty much smell the same: very low odor at this stage:
The giant leaves and the leaf curl trait suggests deep chunk is in it, but the rest of the traits suggest this is a hybrid:
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Definitely looks like a hybrid, very disappointing too as I got a few of hazeman monkey balls as freebies and I was kind of banking on them to be the real deal. Come to think of it, I also have his “The Madness” which is supposed to be a pre ‘98 bubba kush X ‘88 G13/HP... I was banking on those being legit too but now I’m not to certain I could/can trust that either.
Here they are right before I chopped them:
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I got a small deepchunk going outside about 12" i thought it was a male & put it outside ended up female lol so i hit some lower buds with a very skunky berry smelling Blueberry male so im still happy. It gets direct sun most of the day its been hot & humid but no signs of mold to my surprise & no bugs not even the grasshoppers i see on my other plants close by, yield looks better outside then growing it indoors for sure, smell is lightly sweet earthy incense & citrus im looking forward to it being done most likely end of September.
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Chocolate, coffee earthy deep rich smell to the buds flavours are strong and more or less match how the buds smell the smoke coats your mouth for ages
The high is more hash like and made you frown with a heavy brow almost immediately and gives a nice warm and dreamy feeling the smoke fills the room and seems to stick to everything and lingers in the atmosphere for an age.
I need to crack out some of my old seed and see if they will germinate.
Happy Times
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Wow, nice work- like the fade and looks like really beefy headies there. Donkey Dicks comes to mind haha
All different seed plants?
I got DC beans with others free from Tom H in 2004, slow in veg, hard to clone and a shit yield. But a lovely smoke and exactly detailed below
When i described it back then it was " tastes/smells like a cappuccino, smoke makes me warm and fuzzy like being back in the womb again"
Will try to find a pic from then
Chocolate, coffee earthy deep rich smell to the buds flavours are strong and more or less match how the buds smell the smoke coats your mouth for ages
The high is more hash like and made you frown with a heavy brow almost immediately and gives a nice warm and dreamy feeling the smoke fills the room and seems to stick to everything and lingers in the atmosphere for an age.
I need to crack out some of my old seed and see if they will germinate.
When i described it back then it was " tastes/smells like a cappuccino, smoke makes me warm and fuzzy like being back in the womb again"
Will try to find a pic from then
Regarding "monkey balls," which is claimed to be an unhybridized selection of Deep Chunk, as the resin glands are starting to mature, the aromas are becoming more pronounced from one plant to the next. Out of 3 individuals, there's one that has the most leaf curl dominance, and this plant has the deepest, earthiest aroma out of the rest. It's the taller phenotype. The second tall phenotype looks almost identical, except leaf curl is less prominent and the aroma is earthy but not as aromatic. The third individual, which is the short, bulky pheno, has very little leaf curl, and the aroma is very sweet with less earthy/skunky tones to it.
I'll try to take better pics, but here's the "best" individual of monkey balls aka supposedly Deep Chunk. This is the one that has the most dankest, earthiest, skunkiest coffee-like aroma to it with a background of sweetness, absolutely mouth watering! The coffee/earthy aroma reminds me of holy grail kush except much louder and without any lemony terps. This individual pictured below also has the most leaf curling trait out of the rest. More and more resinous leaves start to curl as they mature:
I'll try to take better pics, but here's the "best" individual of monkey balls aka supposedly Deep Chunk. This is the one that has the most dankest, earthiest, skunkiest coffee-like aroma to it with a background of sweetness, absolutely mouth watering! The coffee/earthy aroma reminds me of holy grail kush except much louder and without any lemony terps. This individual pictured below also has the most leaf curling trait out of the rest. More and more resinous leaves start to curl as they mature:
Hey there HT. Yes those were all from a pack of standard “The madness” seeds from Hazeman. Organic soil in 3 gallon pots under a 600w hps in a 3’x3’
I'm seeing lots of pics of DC without the frosty leaf curl dominance, which makes me wonder if that trait isn't dominant?
With Monkey Balls, from one plant to the next, there's definitely a lot of diversity in the strength of aroma, aroma type, and frosty leaf curl trait. Each plant is very similar in smell, but slightly different. For sure, the best clone with the dominant, frosty leaf curl trait smells the strongest and the most delicious! Here she is! I'm officially no longer upset about whether monkey balls is in fact the real deal deep chunk or not, this plant is definitely phenomenal:
Still has a ways to go, but this plant is really a looker, definitely haven't seen anything in my garden like this ever:
With Monkey Balls, from one plant to the next, there's definitely a lot of diversity in the strength of aroma, aroma type, and frosty leaf curl trait. Each plant is very similar in smell, but slightly different. For sure, the best clone with the dominant, frosty leaf curl trait smells the strongest and the most delicious! Here she is! I'm officially no longer upset about whether monkey balls is in fact the real deal deep chunk or not, this plant is definitely phenomenal:
Still has a ways to go, but this plant is really a looker, definitely haven't seen anything in my garden like this ever:
Monkey Balls a few days before harvest. It's very unlikely that this is a selection of deep chunk, the yields were heavy and the buds were gigantic. It has hybrid written all over it....
Extracted some rosin off of fresh flowers and took a single vape, was so strong it borderline got me scared! LOL I'm definitely not into indicas, but if you are, I highly recommend trying this one out, the flavor is fantastic
We had a heatwave and it turned the white curly leaves slightly brown. Probably why rosin from fresh flowers worked without any curing:
Extracted some rosin off of fresh flowers and took a single vape, was so strong it borderline got me scared! LOL I'm definitely not into indicas, but if you are, I highly recommend trying this one out, the flavor is fantastic
We had a heatwave and it turned the white curly leaves slightly brown. Probably why rosin from fresh flowers worked without any curing:
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Looks nice mate and for sure has DC in her although i am no expert on the matter, for reference on DC hybrids pictured are DC x maple leaf indica plants first two pics using a DC male to a maple mum and 2nd two maple dad too a DC girl.
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Shit,,, Dr,, what does your seed collection list look like,, incredible stuff I bet
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I grew out a RKS x Deep chunk a few years back that gave me a pheno which I assume was a deep chunk(monkey balls) pheno. Wish I took pics of it to share. Buds turned a nice purple and I always wondered if they were describing those monkeys or apes with those protruding big purple shiny balls. Someone said Chimera supplied this company with the genetics. $30 for 10 seeds. Cannacopia was the company
