Curing and Why you do it!
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I recently experienced smoking a 2 week dried bud and it was a decent high.
That same bud after spending 2 months in a glass jar was devastatingly powerful.
I don't know what you call that but through process of decomposition and chemical reactions breaking down, all that 'scientifically researched' jargon... the potency increased along with taste and smell.
That same bud after spending 2 months in a glass jar was devastatingly powerful.
I don't know what you call that but through process of decomposition and chemical reactions breaking down, all that 'scientifically researched' jargon... the potency increased along with taste and smell.
Longhair
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Mt Toaker
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Glass jars really are where its at. I'm afraid to put my product in plastic where it could leech out chemicals or odor into the bud altering the end product. Even plastic bags I am not a fan of, remember cannabis is a delicate flower that must be handled as such. By placing buds in baggies and putting them in a pocket destroys bud structure and knocks off a lot of trichomes in the process, trichomes that I want to smoke.
Longhair
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Hello,
I Was A Little Skeptical About The Jar Thing. I've Read For A Long Time That It Works But I Really Didn't Think It A Big Deal.
I Chopped 1/2 Of A W.W. Hung Them & Put In Bags. It Smoked Hot & Every Hit You Would Cough Forever.
Well I Bought Some Jars & In A Week The Change Was Tremendous!!
JARS Are Happening!
Thank You
Longhair
I Was A Little Skeptical About The Jar Thing. I've Read For A Long Time That It Works But I Really Didn't Think It A Big Deal.
I Chopped 1/2 Of A W.W. Hung Them & Put In Bags. It Smoked Hot & Every Hit You Would Cough Forever.
Well I Bought Some Jars & In A Week The Change Was Tremendous!!
JARS Are Happening!
Thank You
Longhair
californiajoe
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great info. thanks guys!
fishwater
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Dont know if there is anything to it, but an old timer (older than me and I am 50) once told me to breath into your jars once a day during the first week to ten days of cure... Something in your breath, possibley the carbon dioxide, has an effect on the cure.
Breath into them, seal them for 8 hours or so, then allow them to sit open for 15 20 minutes...
After a week of this, just start opening jars for the 15 minutes a day until proper moisture content is achieved...
It works... I can make alfalfa smell good doing that... Just tried it as an experiment, mind you... not trying to rip anyone...
Breath into them, seal them for 8 hours or so, then allow them to sit open for 15 20 minutes...
After a week of this, just start opening jars for the 15 minutes a day until proper moisture content is achieved...
It works... I can make alfalfa smell good doing that... Just tried it as an experiment, mind you... not trying to rip anyone...
should work co2 is the catlyst of what i gathered that makes the thc increase. i would like to have the exakt numbers on just one strain, not " i thought it was much stronger" in my world that dont mean shit.
Surely there must be stats on this, i mean there a many competitions where u measure THC , i feel that if it had an huge effect say from 15 to 22 % there would most deff be numbers out there.
in my own experience but then only cured for 30 days tops no differnce in potency has been felt, chronic and bubblegum
Surely there must be stats on this, i mean there a many competitions where u measure THC , i feel that if it had an huge effect say from 15 to 22 % there would most deff be numbers out there.
in my own experience but then only cured for 30 days tops no differnce in potency has been felt, chronic and bubblegum
THC doesn't increase in the jar the ratio of cannabinoids is what changes. I don't know what you mean by co2 being the catalyst but i think co2 is the byproduct of decarboxylation. Co2 isn't the only thing in your breath there's all the other gasses and water vapour which is most likely what the difference observed from breathing in jars is from, you need some moisture for a good cure imo.
Cannalicious
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I just got a microscope with a camera and my first harvest is coming up; I'm looking forward to doing this experiment too, but here are my 
regarding curing. Regarding how long to cure:
I have a couple of questions I ask myself about how long to cure. 1) Do I have anything else to smoke? and 2) If I have one bird in hand (a patient who needs meds now), or two in the bush, will I fetch such a better price and product that it is worth leaving the first bird suffering? I am a compassionate care giver.
Regarding the potency question:
I've always trusted that Robert Connell Clarke knows his sht. Quoted from Marijuana Botany (1981): "Drying in merely the removal of water...Curing takes this process one step farther to produce tasty and psychoactive marijuana...A floral cluster is not dead after harvest any more than an apple is. Certain metabolic activities take place for some time, much like the ripening and eventual spoiling of an apple after it is picked. During this period, cannabinoid acids decarboxylate into the psychoactive cannabinoids..." But let's look at other evidence besides this citing.
It would make sense that all bud when harvested have a certain amount of cannabinoids in all different stages of THC synthesis and degradation. If we take that statement as true, there is definitely more THC produced by curing.
The following information is based on
STUDIES ON ENZYMES INVOLVED IN CANNABINOID BIOSYNTHESIS
Futoshi TAURA
Faculty of Pharmaceutica1 Sciences, Kyushu University, Fukuoka, 812-8582, Japan
E-mail address: [email protected]
The link to a PDF file is below
The immediate precurser to THC is THCA, therahydrocannabinolic acid. This reaction loses a CO2 molecule (decarboxylation). This processes continues through the curing process (one of the gases vented off by opening the curing jars). The immediate precursor to THCA is a CBGA, which takes place in the presence of an enzyme THCA synthase.
Enzymes are usually proteins, so I'm not sure if this process would happen or not, but proteins can hang out for a long long time without degrading.
www.pharm.or.jp/eng/129th/data/AL14.pdf
That being said, processes are also breaking down into CBN continuously as well. So, I have no idea about the net increase or decrease in THC, but obviously these chemical processes do not cease due to plant death.
Now, here's the kicker; I purport that the potency is more than THC content. The medical definition of potency is the relationship between the therapeutic effect of a drug and the dose necessary to achieve that effect. Let's say you've had a long hard day, and what you want to do is eat dinner, have a toke and not get up from the tv? Would you rather have 16% THC sativa or a 16% THC indica? Which one is more potent?
Similarly, although CBD and CBN's are not psychoactive in themselves, they certainly change the texture of the high depending on ratios.
From Mel Frank: "In order for CBD to affect the high, THC must be present in quantities ordinarily psychoactive. CBD can contribute to the high by interacting with THC to potentiate (enhance) or antagonize (interfere or lessen) certain qualities of the high. CBD appears to potentiate the depressant effects of THC and antagonize is excitatory effects. CBD also delays the onset of the high but can make it last considerably longer (as much as twice as long)."
One could argue that a bud that makes the high last twice as long is more potent than another bud producing the same effect.
If you are interested in a very specific book: Marijuana Chemistry: Genetics, Processing and Potency by Michael Starks explains the various psychoactive constituents of cannabis, with full discussions of the effect of growth conditions, harvesting, and processing, and method of ingestion on potency.
So, cure it until you like it best or you can't wait!
I have a trainwreck cola that has been curing for 2 yrs now. And although i liked it very much when she was first chopped, over time there has been some awesome fragrences coming out and potency is rising even more. Too bad she's almost gone now. ;-)
Btw, she didn't start changing colors and fragrances til about 1 yr into to cure.
Btw, she didn't start changing colors and fragrances til about 1 yr into to cure.
