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Coronavirus.. outlook

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St. Phatty

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Because of the way the US delayed treating the incoming 50,000 airline passengers from China, it was almost as if they were TRYING to start an epidemic.

Knowing what they knew Monday morning of this week.

So how much does a day in the ICU cost these days ?

I was curious what the average hospital stay for a bad case of this flu, will cost.

I figure a week in the ICU for $20,000 a day, and a week out of the ICU for $10,000 a day.

$210K total.
 
mexcurandero420

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Was wondering what will happen in a human body when a person has the flu and this coronavirus all at once, if you not get a sort of synergy of the two virusses and get a total new virus, although the two virusses are totally different.Symptoms of both are comparable.:thinking:
 
Rocky Mtn Squid

Rocky Mtn Squid

EL CID SQUID
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Confirmed cases of the coronavirus in the United States

Confirmed cases of the coronavirus in the United States

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Source: Centers for Disease Control and Prevention

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Medfinder

Medfinder

Chemon 91
Uhh...ya. I live about

16 miles away from John Wayne and 23 miles from Disney land...

2 current patients at undisclosed hospital in orange county.

Some live update USA maps say 8 infected in us...some say 6.
 
Rocky Mtn Squid

Rocky Mtn Squid

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China is cremating bodies in secret to hide true extent of death toll, says new repor

China is cremating bodies in secret to hide true extent of death toll, says new repor

CHINA is cremating bodies in secret, suggesting the official coronavirus death toll is "way too low", a disturbing new report claims.

The official death toll from coronavirus in China has skyrocketed to 170, with 7,711 cases now reported — an increase of 38 deaths and 1,737 cases in just 24 hours.

But now doubts have been raised about the official death toll.

In a bold claim, Chinese-language news outlet Initium believe that Chinese authorities have been cremating bodies in secret.

CREMATION INVESTIGATION

This week, they interviewed people working at local cremation centres in Wuhan — where the virus originated from — who said bodies were being sent directly from hospitals without being properly identified and added to the official record.

“There are reasons to remain sceptical about what China has been sharing with the world," said DW News East Asia correspondent William Yang.

"Because while they have been more transparent about certain things related to the virus, they continue to be sketchy and unreliable in other aspects."

Their investigation comes after coronavirus cases jumped to 5,974 on Wednesday — a 30 per cent increase in infections in a day — surpassing the 5,327 people diagnosed with SARS.

Mr Yang added how the current death toll of 170 is "way too low" for what it should be, adding how the cremation claim "makes sense".

He continued: "Credible Chinese media outlet Initium interviewed people working at local cremation centres, confirming that many dead bodies were sent directly from the hospitals to the cremation centres without properly identifying these patients.

"This means there are patients who died from the virus, but were not added to the official record."

But now doubts have been raised about the official death toll.

In a bold claim, Chinese-language news outlet Initium believe that Chinese authorities have been cremating bodies in secret.

CREMATION INVESTIGATION

This week, they interviewed people working at local cremation centres in Wuhan — where the virus originated from — who said bodies were being sent directly from hospitals without being properly identified and added to the official record.

“There are reasons to remain sceptical about what China has been sharing with the world," said DW News East Asia correspondent William Yang.

"Because while they have been more transparent about certain things related to the virus, they continue to be sketchy and unreliable in other aspects."

Their investigation comes after coronavirus cases jumped to 5,974 on Wednesday — a 30 per cent increase in infections in a day — surpassing the 5,327 people diagnosed with SARS.

Mr Yang added how the current death toll of 170 is "way too low" for what it should be, adding how the cremation claim "makes sense".

He continued: "Credible Chinese media outlet Initium interviewed people working at local cremation centres, confirming that many dead bodies were sent directly from the hospitals to the cremation centres without properly identifying these patients.

"This means there are patients who died from the virus, but were not added to the official record."

There are reasons to remain sceptical about what China has been sharing with the world
William Yang

Just last week, The Guardian reported how Chinese hospitals were not testing patients for the virus, and at least one family was pressured into a cremation.

Two doctors reportedly told the family that the patient had likely contracted coronavirus, but provided no documentation.

There are also damning stories from Wuhan of medics failing to test patients who were clearly showing signs of the illness.

Kyle Hui told the New York Times that despite his stepmother having the correct symptoms ⁠— including a cough and a fever ⁠— doctors wearing hazmat suits refused to test her for the virus.

Subsequently, she died on January 15 with Mr Hui arguing how her death certificate says "severe pneumonia" rather than coronavirus.

And while she has not been recorded as one of the official victims of the bug, he claims how doctors told him to cremate his stepmother's body because they suspected she had the disease.

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Scientists say there are still many questions to be answered about the new virus, including just how easily it spreads and how severe it is.

World health officials expressed “great concern” on Wednesday that the virus is starting to spread between people outside of China.
They added how they were taking “extraordinary measures in the face of an extraordinary challenge” posed by the outbreak.

The global pandemic has caused serious confusion, panic and heartache around the world.

Just today, a Brit dad trapped in coronavirus-hit Wuhan revealed he will have to choose if he leaves China without his newborn baby and wife.

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Source: https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10856405/china-cremating-bodies-secret-hide-death-toll/


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We have cases now. Unsurprisingly a Chinese family, in from China. I never saw that coming.. Yet our citizens we fetched back, get to sit in quarantine for two weeks.
 
TychoMonolyth

TychoMonolyth

Boreal Curing
It's not very dangerous. It just spreads fast. The Flu is much more dangerous. So why all the hype?

If it mutates, and it will, and it's a negative mutation, then we're in deep shit. I'd rather get it now, then after it changes direction.
 
Rocky Mtn Squid

Rocky Mtn Squid

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Air passengers refuse to board the same plane with 16 tourists from Wuhan in five-hour stand-off 'after noticing them secretly taking anti-fever medicine in the airport'

*Drama occurred yesterday in Japan as the rivalling groups were going home

*Tourists in Wuhan were spotted 'shoving' pills into their mouths, it is reported

*Fearing of contracting coronavirus, the others wanted the airline to bar them

*The Wuhan group were allowed to travel after Chinese diplomats intervened

*Death toll of the life-threatening infection has soared to at least 130 in China

*Japan reported two new cases today, including one who had not been to Wuha

A group of air passengers from Shanghai have refused to board the same plane with tourists from Wuhan after allegedly noticing them secretly taking anti-fever medicine in the airport, according to reports.

The drama reportedly took place yesterday in Japan as the two rivalling groups were ready to go home from Chubu Centrair International Airport near the city of Nagoya.

It is said the protesting Shanghai travellers, around 70 of them, demanded the airline bar 16 Wuhan residents, fearing that they might spread the coronavirus to the others. The stand-off led to a five-hour delay to the two-hour flight.


Source: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7937943/Air-passengers-refuse-board-plane-16-tourists-Wuhan.html


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Rocky Mtn Squid

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China faces bigger epidemic than Sars in ‘complicated and grave’ coronavirus outbreak

China faces bigger epidemic than Sars in ‘complicated and grave’ coronavirus outbreak

TychoMonolyth said:
It's not very dangerous. It just spreads fast. The Flu is much more dangerous. So why all the hype?

If it mutates, and it will, and it's a negative mutation, then we're in deep shit. I'd rather get it now, then after it changes direction.
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*Number of cases of the pneumonia-like illness has surpassed the total for severe acute respiratory syndrome in the mainland 17 years ago

*Hubei governor says the situation is ‘particularly severe’ in Huanggang, where a makeshift hospital has been set up


China is facing a larger epidemic than Sars, with the number of Wuhan coronavirus infections in the mainland surpassing the tally of severe acute respiratory syndrome cases it saw during the 2002-03 outbreak.

And as the pneumonia-like illness – also known as the novel coronavirus – continues to spread six days after authorities took the unprecedented step of locking down Wuhan, the capital of Hubei province and epicentre of the outbreak, more cases of human-to-human transmission have been reported outside China.

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China is facing a larger epidemic than Sars, with the number of Wuhan coronavirus infections in the mainland surpassing the tally of severe acute respiratory syndrome cases it saw during the 2002-03 outbreak.

And as the pneumonia-like illness – also known as the novel coronavirus – continues to spread six days after authorities took the unprecedented step of locking down Wuhan, the capital of Hubei province and epicentre of the outbreak, more cases of human-to-human transmission have been reported outside China.

China coronavirus: World Health Organisation calls outbreak an 'emergency in China'

Meanwhile, the only region in China that had yet to be affected, Tibet, reported a suspected case, and Sichuan reported its first death from the virus – the seventh province outside Hubei to report a fatality. The first confirmed cases of foreigners in China contracting the virus were also reported on Wednesday.
As of 6pm on Wednesday in Beijing, China had reported 6,061 confirmed cases and 132 deaths. That was more than the total of 5,327 Sars infections in mainland China 17 years ago. But some 1,755 people in Hong Kong were sickened during the Sars outbreak, and there were more deaths – 349 people died in the mainland and 299 in Hong Kong.

In Hubei province, governor Wang Xiaodong said the epidemic in the cities of Huanggang, Xiaogan, Jingmen and Xianning was acute. “It is particularly severe in Huanggang. There are over 1,000 confirmed and suspected cases, and we cannot allow Huanggang to become a second Wuhan,” he said.

Source:https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/3048136/china-faces-bigger-epidemic-sars-complicated-and-grave


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mexcurandero420

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TychoMonolyth said:
It's not very dangerous. It just spreads fast. The Flu is much more dangerous. So why all the hype?

If it mutates, and it will, and it's a negative mutation, then we're in deep shit. I'd rather get it now, then after it changes direction.
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Its more virulent than the Spanish flu which took about 75-100 million lives worldwide and its less virulent than SARS, but the spreading is much faster.
 
TychoMonolyth

TychoMonolyth

Boreal Curing
Rocky Mtn Squid said:
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*Death toll of the life-threatening infection has soared to at least 130 in China
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200 people died out of 9800 infected in China. So that's about a 2% mortality rate. Still, that's higher than .1% deaths from the flu (a bit higher than .1% actually).

The 1918 Flu pandemic was 10-20%. 50 to 100 million people died.
SARS had a fatality rate of 9.6%
MERS? Are you ready for this? 34.4% (moootheerfucker)

Like I said before, so far so good. But if it mutates negatively, we could be in deep shit. All we need is another 9 months and we'll have a vaccine.


2010 to 2018 in the US from the "normal" yearly flu.
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