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Samson420

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I just popped a few Jack Herer 10k x A5 Haze from Topdawg. looking for that special lady.

I would believe the NL5Haze is pure. If it was crossed the description would have said. just my .02. every other strain shows both mom and dad.

get them before they are gone. got 2 packs in case already posted my way.
 

JKD

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I think its likely an S1 as all the strains he crosses with SSSDH the SSSDH is mentioned in the description.
 

FireIn.TheSky

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It's vague to me
Which pheno did he use if itwas a on going project?

The nl5 haze was most definitely the peng pheno he has in his albums. If you go to his nl5haze album you will see where ojd and piff rhys jones discussed what it was.

It's an old cut from London. That came from neville, it was supposed to be an nl5 haze that was sold as ssh in the Dutch coffee shops. So as things go with all things cannabis stories get foggy over time, so that is probably the best you will get on that. There is 5 pics in that album and they look great.

Now as far as this being pure nl5haze s1's that's what I'd like to know, the mom looks awesome I recognize the looks from haze I grew 10 years ago.

I really hope it is pure nl5haze as I just dropped a buck fifty on these.

I know piff says sssdh hybs throw piff smells but I want pure dutch haze not mixed with sour diesel.

Samson I'm with you ojd is usually good about listing the full lineage I think it would say if it was nl5hz x sssdh. It says it's a special project in the description maybe they were originally intended to be sold or something.
 

ojd

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Sorry for the late reply

Im not around a computer these days and its hard to reply from this throw away phone

The 90's Haze

I must apologize for the description
The guy who does my packaging likes to clean up my descriptions as he calls it, and has left out part of my description of the reversed sssdh
It is this 20 year old Nl5 Haze cut x my sssdh reversed
im sorry if that is not what you was lookin for but believe me you will not find any sour in this hybrid
Anyone who has smoked or grown my sssdh cut knows ita 90 plus percent Haze , even more
My reguar sssdh seeds i used a sour d dominant male so you will find sd leaning phenos

If you document the grow(it doesnt have to be online , online if you want) and are not happy with the end product i will send you a free pack of your choice of what varietys i have in stock ( i will also need proof of purchase)

This has nothing to do with the old thread someone has posted which was my own nl5haze from sensi seeds

I believe this cut to be the C5 Haze cut but i cant verify
All i know is this cut came from Nevils hands 20 years ago and was kept by a london crew all these years
Its taken 10 plus years to get hold of this cut
It is also one of the best Haze to come out of holland if not the best

Big shout to the Don of Haze Nevil Schoenmaker
 

AceHaze

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AceHaze are you able to compare it to any other strains? As an apparent 12 week strain of Nev origin I guess compared to SSH or Jack Herer if possible. As I can see from your sig you've grown Kali Mist perhaps with that as I've grown Sags Western Winds version, though I found it much different than SSH or JH.
Thanks,

JKD.

Hey:tiphat:
Compared to my Kali Mist it was more potent and active. Really pushes you to do stuff. Can be a bit racy and confused at the beginning, I ended up doing 3 different things at once:biggrin: The high is long lasting with a heavy body part. Got me stumbling over my own feet. The taste/smell was not sweet like Amnesia or ssh, but incense with light citrus, classic haze.

Peace
Ace
 

DoubleTripleOG

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He doesn't post much anymore. I don't see how you need more information, the seed description pretty much covers it and I told you where to find more pictures. Perhaps he takes the hands off approach and let's the seeds sell themselves. Its like if someone isn't here to give you a sales pitch and a pat you on the back all is lost. You have the info, you ordered the seeds at this point you own them so what difference does it make.

Also if you check his album and read the comments he basically gives all the information he has, it's an old cut he received so beyond an old story maybe there isn't much to tell it's not like it's a plant or strain he made or found himself.

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FireIn.TheSky

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Yes DTOG you are right, what can I say. I put way too much faith in people, lesson learned in a big way.

My most sincere apologies to anyone in this thread I tried to persuade incorrectly.

I'm dissipointed as hell, I know most will just suck it up and that's why this kind of shit keeps happening.
 

FireIn.TheSky

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a 20 year old cut direct from Neville and people complain. dont get it.

Well they complain because they thought they were buying one thing but bought some thing completely different.

As we all know in plant breeding both parents contribute to the end result, I was under the assumption in was buying pure dutch haze this is not the case. I have grown the csg sssdh fems they were good nice looking plants but not as good as unadulterated dutch haze. I feel the waters will be muddy due to the sssdh. Smell and taste of the sssdh did not interest me.

If you name something 90s haze and tell everyone it's genetics are an old school nl5haze wtf you'd think it's an s1. I feel mislead on this one especially since I just dropped so much money, if they were 50$ I'd say fuck it. But to be honest my space is limited so it's not like I have room to just grow what ever especially considering hazes are a total shit shoot that throw many phenos with the high probability of hay, not saying these will be hay but from my experiences hazes throw a ton of wild hay phenos.

If I was to sell you a Ferrari and deliver a volvo how would you like that?
 

HOVA

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Sorry for the late reply

Im not around a computer these days and its hard to reply from this throw away phone

The 90's Haze

I must apologize for the description
The guy who does my packaging likes to clean up my descriptions as he calls it, and has left out part of my description of the reversed sssdh
It is this 20 year old Nl5 Haze cut x my sssdh reversed
im sorry if that is not what you was lookin for but believe me you will not find any sour in this hybrid
Anyone who has smoked or grown my sssdh cut knows ita 90 plus percent Haze , even more
My reguar sssdh seeds i used a sour d dominant male so you will find sd leaning phenos

If you document the grow(it doesnt have to be online , online if you want) and are not happy with the end product i will send you a free pack of your choice of what varietys i have in stock ( i will also need proof of purchase)

This has nothing to do with the old thread someone has posted which was my own nl5haze from sensi seeds

I believe this cut to be the C5 Haze cut but i cant verify
All i know is this cut came from Nevils hands 20 years ago and was kept by a london crew all these years
Its taken 10 plus years to get hold of this cut
It is also one of the best Haze to come out of holland if not the best

Big shout to the Don of Haze Nevil Schoenmaker




That fucking sucks
The ecsdxssdh was nothing like i expected lol
It was ok not bad but not great
More like decent
I have the real ecsd and this strain is nothing close to it
So if the ssdh hit the "nl5" then im
Shaking my head in disappointment
I have them up in my east coast grower thread
Man i bet i wont find the incense haze im looking for
Its not only the fact of the money i spent but the risk im taking ordering and receiving the seeds
Plus the time and space i have to spend on growing something I thought was something else


Ojd how about i send you these seeds back untouched and you send me something I actually paid for
 
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Samson420

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I understand and agree. I also feel misled that they are not S1's. I bought 2 packs. why not make S1's and offer them only to the people that bought them thinking they were S1s.

OJD you should have the Tude update the description.
 

FireIn.TheSky

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It's not just the tude every retailer that is selling them is using the same incorrect description. Im sure there is many more to be duped over this one.
 

HOVA

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Why do we have to grow them out to get a refund or exchange
I already wasted money and risk
How about i just get an exchange
No harm no foul????
 

FireIn.TheSky

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I don't want a refund or an exchange I just don't want to be mislead. I would not have bought these if I had known they were an sssdh hybrid. I certainly was not in the market for more seeds I jumped on these because I thought they were something extremely rare and didn't want to miss the boat.

I always thought ojd was one of the more honest breeders when it came to lineage that's why I didn't hesitate. Now I see why I don't impulse buy. I am kind of put off by the whole thing and won't be buying anything from csg again, fool me once, thats it.

To make things better I bet these are untested at that.
 

ojd

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Ive contacted my distributor to add the rest of desctiption

Im sorry guys but there is nothing i can do
The shops wont take them back and i cant pay you 5 x what i get paid for them

I guarantee you will find a real special Haze

Ive explained the problem if you dont want to even give them a go and i said il send you another pack of your choice if your not happy

Also i tested these myself and were more than satisfied
Not trying to brag but bar Mr nice seed co there is no seed co that is into Haze and produces it like me
 
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