Cancel Culture

[packerfan79]

Couple of hundred bills being pushed though that will make voting more difficult.
Must be time to talk about Dr Seuss.

Let's be real here my friend. HR1, eliminates any security surrounding elections. You definitely have your official party talking points memorized to the letter.

My Friend, you are better than this.

 

[Gry]

Let's be real here my friend. HR1, eliminates any security surrounding elections. You definitely have your official party talking points memorized to the letter.

My Friend, you are better than this.

Hi there Packer, I heard the bill described as the most significant piece of legislature that has been enacted since the days of LBJ.
Would imagine that we will shortly have access to a PDF version that will allow it to be searched easily.
Not been able to vote a straight ticket yet, and do not expect that will change.
As I look at what has happened with the country, I do not feel it was well served by either party.

 

[Cannavore]

Let's be real here my friend. HR1, eliminates any security surrounding elections. You definitely have your official party talking points memorized to the letter.

My Friend, you are better than this.

Hahaha how are you on the wrong side of every issue? HR1 is actually a decent bill.

 

[Cannavore]

The horror!

 

[NEW ENGLAND]

Hahaha Vote with no ID required......just the pledge of honesty.

 

[Cannavore]

Cancel Culture is insidious, but it generally is a symptom of corporations without a spine, in conjunction with woke activist on Twitter. Cancel Culture IMO, is anti capitalist it takes no account of profit. If you look at the price of a dr sense book, plenty of profit is made for people who don't believe in Cancel Culture.

corporations are the ones who promote this lol and in most cases cancel culture doesn't even apply to the situation. take dr suess for example. how is it cancel culture when the publisher themselves decided to pull the books? or a private company (disney) letting go of the dumbass who said being a conservative is like being in nazi germany or whatever dumbass thing she said. It's the right of the private employer (CAPITALIST) to let her go or not, and of course most cases theyre going to let these people go. why would billion dollar capitalist companies stick up for one retarded employee? it would hurt their bottom line.

The left is by design authoritarian, unless it's voluntary, like a commune. I guess that's the problem in a country of 300+million a top down system will inevitably favor, or operate in a way that doesn't favor vast swaths of the population.

capitalism by design is authoritarian. it forces you to do things you don't want to do just to survive while your labor and wealth are stolen by the elite. see i can make meaningless blanket statements too =)

In the end people either stand up to Cancel Culture, or it will destroy everyone in time. No one is pure enough.

cancel culture is an overblown conservative conspiracy because they have no actual policy positions to woo voters over. they use boomer fear porn such as the threat of gun confiscation, big gubbermint, communists, and cancel culture to scare the rubes into voting for them.

Capitalism is anti-authoriarian, until they get in bed with the government. Then they are truly facist. Like Twitter

this is ahistorical. capitalists don't "get in bed with govt".... they own the fucking government. and they always have. you cannot point to a time in this countries history where capitalists and aristocrats DIDN'T control the government.

Capitalism is the essence of freedom, people freely chose to alienate there labor for an agreed upon price. Customers freely chose who to buy from.

lol. it's working so well as evidenced by the past decade!

Unless you have a monopoly like Twitter.

so nationalize them.

I'll take the freedom to bust my ass to have more than the losers who populate large swaths of this once great nation. 15$ minimum wage is an insult to the men and women who actually earn the money they make, not vote for it

lol you're out of touch

 

[Cannavore]

Hahaha Vote with no ID required......just the pledge of honesty.

i've never shown an ID to vote. no white person or family member i've ever seen has been required to show an ID to vote. voter ID laws are designed to disenfranchise & suppress black and poor voters.

 

[packerfan79]

corporations are the ones who promote this lol and in most cases cancel culture doesn't even apply to the situation. take dr suess for example. how is it cancel culture when the publisher themselves decided to pull the books? or a private company (disney) letting go of the dumbass who said being a conservative is like being in nazi germany or whatever dumbass thing she said. It's the right of the private employer (CAPITALIST) to let her go or not, and of course most cases theyre going to let these people go. why would billion dollar capitalist companies stick up for one retarded employee? it would hurt their bottom line.


capitalism by design is authoritarian. it forces you to do things you don't want to do just to survive while your labor and wealth are stolen by the elite. see i can make meaningless blanket statements too =)


cancel culture is an overblown conservative conspiracy because they have no actual policy positions to woo voters over. they use boomer fear porn such as the threat of gun confiscation, big gubbermint, communists, and cancel culture to scare the rubes into voting for them.


this is ahistorical. capitalists don't "get in bed with govt".... they own the fucking government. and they always have. you cannot point to a time in this countries history where capitalists and aristocrats DIDN'T control the government.


lol. it's working so well as evidenced by the past decade!


so nationalize them.



lol you're out of touch

You have no clue my friend. You have the choice to do nothing in a capitalist country. That will never happen in a communist country. You will be executed if you don't work, and uphold the collective.

There is nothing wrong with working for a living,, it gives meaning to life.

I hope you find the utopia you seek, even if it only exist in your dreams.

 

[Cannavore]

my 'utopia' isn't communism lol i don't consider myself a communist for the thousandth time. and you're still confusing totalitarianism with communism. there is no state/govt to execute you in a communist country.

the point of leftist ideology is to empower all workers, and especially those who otherwise don't give a shit about participating in wage theft. people who don't give a shit about their jobs have poor work productivity, low work enthusiasm, generally no say in the direction of the company, and generally do the bare minimum to just not get fired. worker ownership and democratizing the workplace instead of having a small group of elites at the top of the business making all the decisions seeks to change that relationship. and overall to support all humans within said country if they are employed or not, because it is the moral and ethical thing to do (ie - UBI).... not execute them lmao. other countries already do much if not everything here that i just said, so i don't consider it utopia at all.

 

[dramamine]

corporations are the ones who promote this lol and in most cases cancel culture doesn't even apply to the situation. take dr suess for example. how is it cancel culture when the publisher themselves decided to pull the books? or a private company (disney) letting go of the dumbass who said being a conservative is like being in nazi germany or whatever dumbass thing she said. It's the right of the private employer (CAPITALIST) to let her go or not, and of course most cases theyre going to let these people go. why would billion dollar capitalist companies stick up for one retarded employee? it would hurt their bottom line.


capitalism by design is authoritarian. it forces you to do things you don't want to do just to survive while your labor and wealth are stolen by the elite. see i can make meaningless blanket statements too =)


cancel culture is an overblown conservative conspiracy because they have no actual policy positions to woo voters over. they use boomer fear porn such as the threat of gun confiscation, big gubbermint, communists, and cancel culture to scare the rubes into voting for them.


this is ahistorical. capitalists don't "get in bed with govt".... they own the fucking government. and they always have. you cannot point to a time in this countries history where capitalists and aristocrats DIDN'T control the government.


lol. it's working so well as evidenced by the past decade!


so nationalize them.



lol you're out of touch

You're not taking into account the "chilling effect" of censorship. Publishers and the public in general self-censor in order to avoid being publicly castigated. The effects of this are more far-reaching than individual casws of censorship.

 

[dramamine]

Sp...cases

 

[mowood3479]

my 'utopia' isn't communism lol i don't consider myself a communist for the thousandth time. and you're still confusing totalitarianism with communism. there is no state/govt to execute you in a communist country.

the point of leftist ideology is to empower all workers, and especially those who otherwise don't give a shit about participating in wage theft. people who don't give a shit about their jobs have poor work productivity, low work enthusiasm, generally no say in the direction of the company, and generally do the bare minimum to just not get fired. worker ownership and democratizing the workplace instead of having a small group of elites at the top of the business making all the decisions seeks to change that relationship. and overall to support all humans within said country if they are employed or not, because it is the moral and ethical thing to do (ie - UBI).... not execute them lmao. other countries already do much if not everything here that i just said, so i don't consider it utopia at all.

It’s an ideology (unless Im mistaken) that almost without exception ends with the state owning everything and a sadistic dictator at the helm...
Until you can square that reprehensible track record for me I’m gonna have to stay far away from supporting anything that would increase govt size and scope....

 

[Cannavore]

You're not taking into account the "chilling effect" of censorship. Publishers and the public in general self-censor in order to avoid being publicly castigated. The effects of this are more far-reaching than individual casws of censorship.

that's like a chicken or the egg scenario for me... which came first...? the fear of being "cancelled" because of the largely made up rhetoric behind cancel culture? or the actual cancelling?

 

[NEW ENGLAND]

i've never shown an ID to vote. no white person or family member i've ever seen has been required to show an ID to vote. voter ID laws are designed to disenfranchise & suppress black and poor voters.

How did those disenfranchised get public assistance?
No ID required for Food stamps ,and welfare.Did they just pledge honesty.
I've always had to show an ID at the polling centers,back when I believed my vote counted.

Everyone in line with me to vote had to present an IDblack,white or other.

 

[dramamine]

that's like a chicken or the egg scenario for me... which came first...? the fear of being "cancelled" because of the largely made up rhetoric behind cancel culture? or the actual cancelling?

It plays out the same either way.

 

[armedoldhippy]

i've never shown an ID to vote. no white person or family member i've ever seen has been required to show an ID to vote. voter ID laws are designed to disenfranchise & suppress black and poor voters.

i've shown ID in every election i have voted in here in TN. a couple of times, it took both voter registration card AND drivers license. but then, i'm an irritable old bastard that looks suspicious to start with...LOL!

 

[Cannavore]

How did those disenfranchised get public assistance?
No ID required for Food stamps ,and welfare.Did they just pledge honesty.
I've always had to show an ID at the polling centers,back when I believed my vote counted.

Everyone in line with me to vote had to present an IDblack,white or other.

Voter ID Laws Deprive Many Americans of the Right to Vote

• Millions of Americans Lack ID. 11% of U.S. citizens – or more than 21 million Americans – do not have government-issued photo identification.[SUP]1[/SUP]
• Obtaining ID Costs Money. Even if ID is offered for free, voters must incur numerous costs (such as paying for birth certificates) to apply for a government-issued ID.
  • Underlying documents required to obtain ID cost money, a significant expense for lower-income Americans. The combined cost of document fees, travel expenses and waiting time are estimated to range from $75 to $175.[SUP]2[/SUP]
  • The travel required is often a major burden on people with disabilities, the elderly, or those in rural areas without access to a car or public transportation. In Texas, some people in rural areas must travel approximately 170 miles to reach the nearest ID office.[SUP]3[/SUP]
• Voter ID Laws Reduce Voter Turnout. A 2014 GAO study found that strict photo ID laws reduce turnout by 2-3 percentage points,[SUP]4[/SUP] which can translate into tens of thousands of votes lost in a single state.[SUP]5[/SUP]

Voter ID Laws Are Discriminatory

• Minority voters disproportionately lack ID. Nationally, up to 25% of African-American citizens of voting age lack government-issued photo ID, compared to only 8% of whites.[SUP]6[/SUP]
• States exclude forms of ID in a discriminatory manner. Texas allows concealed weapons permits for voting, but does not accept student ID cards. Until its voter ID law was struck down, North Carolina prohibited public assistance IDs and state employee ID cards, which are disproportionately held by Black voters. And until recently, Wisconsin permitted active duty military ID cards, but prohibited Veterans Affairs ID cards for voting.
• Voter ID laws are enforced in a discriminatory manner. A Caltech/MIT study found that minority voters are more frequently questioned about ID than are white voters.[SUP]7[/SUP]
• Voter ID laws reduce turnout among minority voters. Several studies, including a 2014 GAO study, have found that photo ID laws have a particularly depressive effect on turnout among racial minorities and other vulnerable groups, worsening the participation gap between voters of color and whites.[SUP]8[/SUP]

Voter ID Requirements are a Solution in Search of a Problem

• In-person fraud is vanishingly rare. A recent study found that, since 2000, there were only 31 credible allegations of voter impersonation – the only type of fraud that photo IDs could prevent – during a period of time in which over 1 billion ballots were cast.[SUP]9[/SUP]
• Identified instances of “fraud” are honest mistakes. So-called cases of in-person impersonation voter “fraud” are almost always the product of an elections worker or a voter making an honest mistake, and that even these mistakes are extremely infrequent.[SUP]10[/SUP]
• Voter ID laws are a waste of taxpayer dollars. States incur sizeable costs when implementing voter ID laws, including the cost of educating the public, training poll workers, and providing IDs to voters.
  • Texas spent nearly $2 million on voter education and outreach efforts following passage of its Voter ID law.[SUP]11[/SUP]
  • Indiana spent over $10 million to produce free ID cards between 2007 and 2010.[SUP]12[/SUP]

The ACLU has led the charge against Voter ID in several states, challenging voter ID laws in in states such as Pennsylvania, Arkansas, Wisconsin, and North Carolina. For more information, please contact Robert Hoffman at rhoffman@aclu.org or visit https://www.aclu.org/issues/voting-r...d-requirements to learn more.

 

[Cannavore]

It plays out the same either way.

i disagree. conservative cucks contantly play victim, inlcuding cancel culture because they're otherwise irrelevant. don't fall for culture war distractions.

 

[NEW ENGLAND]

Voter ID Laws Deprive Many Americans of the Right to Vote

• Millions of Americans Lack ID. 11% of U.S. citizens – or more than 21 million Americans – do not have government-issued photo identification.[SUP]1[/SUP]
• Obtaining ID Costs Money. Even if ID is offered for free, voters must incur numerous costs (such as paying for birth certificates) to apply for a government-issued ID.
  • Underlying documents required to obtain ID cost money, a significant expense for lower-income Americans. The combined cost of document fees, travel expenses and waiting time are estimated to range from $75 to $175.[SUP]2[/SUP]
  • The travel required is often a major burden on people with disabilities, the elderly, or those in rural areas without access to a car or public transportation. In Texas, some people in rural areas must travel approximately 170 miles to reach the nearest ID office.[SUP]3[/SUP]
• Voter ID Laws Reduce Voter Turnout. A 2014 GAO study found that strict photo ID laws reduce turnout by 2-3 percentage points,[SUP]4[/SUP] which can translate into tens of thousands of votes lost in a single state.[SUP]5[/SUP]

Voter ID Laws Are Discriminatory

• Minority voters disproportionately lack ID. Nationally, up to 25% of African-American citizens of voting age lack government-issued photo ID, compared to only 8% of whites.[SUP]6[/SUP]
• States exclude forms of ID in a discriminatory manner. Texas allows concealed weapons permits for voting, but does not accept student ID cards. Until its voter ID law was struck down, North Carolina prohibited public assistance IDs and state employee ID cards, which are disproportionately held by Black voters. And until recently, Wisconsin permitted active duty military ID cards, but prohibited Veterans Affairs ID cards for voting.
• Voter ID laws are enforced in a discriminatory manner. A Caltech/MIT study found that minority voters are more frequently questioned about ID than are white voters.[SUP]7[/SUP]
• Voter ID laws reduce turnout among minority voters. Several studies, including a 2014 GAO study, have found that photo ID laws have a particularly depressive effect on turnout among racial minorities and other vulnerable groups, worsening the participation gap between voters of color and whites.[SUP]8[/SUP]

Voter ID Requirements are a Solution in Search of a Problem

• In-person fraud is vanishingly rare. A recent study found that, since 2000, there were only 31 credible allegations of voter impersonation – the only type of fraud that photo IDs could prevent – during a period of time in which over 1 billion ballots were cast.[SUP]9[/SUP]
• Identified instances of “fraud” are honest mistakes. So-called cases of in-person impersonation voter “fraud” are almost always the product of an elections worker or a voter making an honest mistake, and that even these mistakes are extremely infrequent.[SUP]10[/SUP]
• Voter ID laws are a waste of taxpayer dollars. States incur sizeable costs when implementing voter ID laws, including the cost of educating the public, training poll workers, and providing IDs to voters.
  • Texas spent nearly $2 million on voter education and outreach efforts following passage of its Voter ID law.[SUP]11[/SUP]
  • Indiana spent over $10 million to produce free ID cards between 2007 and 2010.[SUP]12[/SUP]

The ACLU has led the charge against Voter ID in several states, challenging voter ID laws in in states such as Pennsylvania, Arkansas, Wisconsin, and North Carolina. For more information, please contact Robert Hoffman at rhoffman@aclu.org or visit https://www.aclu.org/issues/voting-r...d-requirements to learn more.

Yeah the ACLU , I lost respect for them when they had any reference of God stricken from schools in my state.

With Joe's two trillion,surely there would be a little fat in there to cover the cost of a real ID for these folks who somehow get through life without identification.

Aren't illegals given driver's licences

 

[gaiusmarius]

this is quite amusing, people are mixing up boycots with cancel culture. but its even funnier when you read people saying, oh look cancelling such and such didnt work, its more prominent then ever. the point is they tried to cancel a book, person, poem,video or movie. the fact that most right thinking people don't go along with the attempt, doesn't make the attempt ok.

as for Gina, look up her actual words, before you buy into that attempt. you will find its quite different to what they say she said.