I couldn't agree with you more on everything you state above...However, Coolx's post had absolutely nothing to do with any of that, and as such neither did my reply to his post. He was referring specifically and only to what is and is not the law, and what is and is not constitutional.
Every few days i go and read the CUA again. I just cannot believe that the State, counties and municipalities are going to abide by it with no qualification.
Every few days i go and read the CUA again. I just cannot believe that the State, counties and municipalities are going to abide by it with no qualification. It would be a beautiful day, but I just can't see it happening.
The state has no choice.
Why in the hell do you think that everything that is important gets decided on by initiatives in CA?
(Hint: it's specifically designed that way to insure that the state will be left out of the decision process).
Leo is not going to like where this is going, and will try anything and everything to continue to prosecute those cultivating marijuana. .
They already did.
SD tried to take it to the supreme court.
The legislators (with the help of LEO) tried to over-ride it wit hSB420.
All this was ruled unconstituitional (because of cali's strong initiative law) so no Leo has to accept how it was back in 1996 but can't try and exhaust their legal wrangling anymore.
This is great news for patients but not so great for dispensaries that usurped all that interim legal wrangling as a justification for thier gouging dispensaries.
But they will continue to find other avenues to suppress the movement any way they can.
Leo still has the right to arrest anyone they feel is outside of the law, so what exactly do you think they HAVE to accept?
Honestly, there just aren't that many "avenues" left for them to pursue.
Let me know when there are none and I'll start looking around for the war to be over.
The SCOTUS said they had to accept ID cards in SD.
The cali supreme court has said they have to accept there are NO limits.
You'd be suprised how Leo accepts courts decisions way more then the voters, city councils, commitees, etc.
Honestly, there just aren't that many "avenues" left for them to pursue.
So you think the supreme court ruling means law officers have to accept patients can have as much marijuana as they want and they aren't allowed to arrest anyone? Get real. They can still arrest anyone and everyone they feel is operating outside the law and let the courts sort it out. That's what they do.
and if you have a "reasonable" amount you'll be aquitted so what's the problem?
Ummm... legal fees, hassle, time wasted, embarrassment , having everyone know you grow, do I need to continue?
Earth to Blue Dot: The CUA was passed by ballot initiative in 1996 and since then, the state has done NOTHING BUT insert itself into the decision process. What in the hell (your words, used to illustrate how dumb they sound) do you think SB420 is/was?
So are you now advising that all patients completely ignore plant and possession limits? The only consolation here is that I know that nobody would take your advice because your opinions are emotional rather than being based in the realities of the world we live in.
It is possible that the most recent development will move toward a resolution of the plant/posession limits, but to be like "Duh! Its unconstitutional, bro!" when the Sheriff's deputy shows up for a compliance check is probably unwise.
Someday, the state may concede what you have already declared to be the case... that they have no choice but to leave cannabis in the quasi-legal state that the CUA creates for it, but that day has not arrived.
Your idealism always outruns your intellect.
That's how it is and how it will be.
There is no legal answer to that.
215 was vague and 215 is the only thing that is constitutional.
Legislators are not allowed to "clarify" it for you in order to save you from the hassle of that.
That's how it is and how it will be.
Just in case you missed this on the bottom of the last page.
You've got to be kidding me with the "and if you have a "reasonable" amount you'll be aquitted so what's the problem?"
How do you expect to be taken even remotely seriously when you are so obviously detached from reality.
and if you have a "reasonable" amount you'll be aquitted so what's the problem?
If you have an ID card you might not even get arrested.
215 didn't say you could grow a million pounds.