That one's listed as for long term plantings, for woody plants and trees. If you look around bonsai growers recommend fir or orchid bark instead of pine, as it won't decompose as much and rob nitrogen from the soil. I'm thinking about trying one of those mixes out for the vegetable garden.
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That one's listed as for long term plantings, for woody plants and trees. If you look around bonsai growers recommend fir or orchid bark instead of pine, as it won't decompose as much and rob nitrogen from the soil. I'm thinking about trying one of those mixes out for the vegetable garden.
Real thing I think dolamitic lime would be better as it has magnesium and calcium.
Subbed for which part? I've got sufficient calcium and magnesium in the right ratio already in my nute mix, and I'd think might raise the PH of the soil, where turface usually sits around 6.5 PH. That's one of the reasons people use the bark fines, it brings the PH of the soil down a little bit, which would probably be ideal for cannabis.
Replace the gysum with dolomitic lime. It will raise the PH not lower it. Gypsum is calcium sulfate which offer no magnesium to the mix at all where dolomotic lime does have magnesium as well as calcium in a good ratio to each other. Both dolomitic lime and gypsum will raise the PH.
I've read a lot about problems with dolomite lime. Veg N Out uses gypsum... I would suggest gypsum for Ca and epsom salts if you need additional magnesium.
I have not had a problem with it but My stuff is shit any way.
icdog
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Has D9 been around lately? I remember him saying something about cycle timers and I found a digital one
http://www.innovativegrower.com/CT-1
Very reasonable price compared to the analog ones at the hydro shops. Can't find a retailer in Ontario though.
I've got a test going with the same clones, one in a ppk with turface and one in promix. So far the ppk is impressive and simple.
http://www.innovativegrower.com/CT-1
Very reasonable price compared to the analog ones at the hydro shops. Can't find a retailer in Ontario though.
I've got a test going with the same clones, one in a ppk with turface and one in promix. So far the ppk is impressive and simple.
some great discussions by Al at gardenweb but everything there, including the gritty mix, is pretty much aimed at hand watered containers.
my first 100% turface rootball in a wide ride tub.
the second pic is the top of the medium with the loose gravel knocked off.
in the third pic i took a saw and cut a wedge out of it down to the center.
i'll let it air dry and shake the turface out and clean it for reuse.
these roots never saw temps lower than 79f and ran as high as 84f in the veg chamber.
the second pic is the top of the medium with the loose gravel knocked off.
in the third pic i took a saw and cut a wedge out of it down to the center.
i'll let it air dry and shake the turface out and clean it for reuse.
these roots never saw temps lower than 79f and ran as high as 84f in the veg chamber.
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Someone had mentioned using a oil pan as the top basin in a previous thread.
You could really use any tub that's sturdy and has enough space.
Lowes has the 10 gallon rugged totes, great for a top container, 8.5" tall, you could cut it down or fill less if you want a smaller container. Not lightproof though, wrap them in some panda film or reflectix if you don't want algae.
There's also half whiskey barrel liners, here's one manufacturer: "real wood 10800"
7" tall, 26" diameter. ~8 gallon capacity?
They're made for ponds and planters inside whiskey barrels but are sturdy enough for use without.
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Incredible!
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disciple
icdog
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Thanks for the suggestions. Crane do you know where that link is and are there any example pics? I looked up oil pans and not sure if they would work.
Ting, those liners would work but they are about 18 bucks each. I can get the tuff stuff or 10 bucks each, I'm trying to keep it to 5-6 bucks each if I can. I thought of a tote or a rubbermaid but not sure if they are strong enough for a tree and that much turface.
Any other suggestions?
My test ppk is doing really well, the secondary shoot growth is excellent.
Ting, those liners would work but they are about 18 bucks each. I can get the tuff stuff or 10 bucks each, I'm trying to keep it to 5-6 bucks each if I can. I thought of a tote or a rubbermaid but not sure if they are strong enough for a tree and that much turface.
Any other suggestions?
My test ppk is doing really well, the secondary shoot growth is excellent.
I don't have a link as some one mentioned it a while ago. It is just one of the cheap oil change pans that are plastic.
icdog
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That sounds like it would be useful, I tried to find some but they were not suitable. Its frustrating to find things in Canada when in the US anything is available.
D9 commented that a low height container is good but I'm thinking I might just get some 7 gallon buckets and try out a full flower. Any reason why they wouldn't work nearly as well?
Just found some round drain pans at crap tire but they are only 8 litre. Need 7 gallon or so.
D9 commented that a low height container is good but I'm thinking I might just get some 7 gallon buckets and try out a full flower. Any reason why they wouldn't work nearly as well?
Just found some round drain pans at crap tire but they are only 8 litre. Need 7 gallon or so.
SecondAttempt
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icdog,
I'm using 18 quart Sterilite dishpans... so far so good but D9 did advise against them. We'll see how they hold up when I switch to Turface next grow.
I'm using 18 quart Sterilite dishpans... so far so good but D9 did advise against them. We'll see how they hold up when I switch to Turface next grow.
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disciple
^This guys right.
I grew big ppk plants in just 3.5 gallons
(good to see ya Disciple)
Lower and wider are better.
I grew big ppk plants in just 3.5 gallons
(good to see ya Disciple)
Lower and wider are better.
