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Big Ballin's Grindhouse Hybrids Projects...One at a time starting with Prophet!!

big ballin 88

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Well as the long title states i finally got breeding underway. My first cross was shear dumb luck with my last pack of Prophet.I popped my last 4 and ended up with 2, both of them leaning to the Bubba side.

The Father(aka Godfather) has a strong lemon smell and super vigor. Lots of long stems space for building nugs with few leaves. Grows super dense nugs on long buff arms. Also had visible trichome production near the stems and on the flowers. I used half his pollen now and will use the other half on a backcross after this seed run. He's already been chopped so no pics of him.

The Mother(aka Redneck Barbie) reminds me of the pics Lambs Bread had of his real Bubba leaning pheno.
Not gonna be super huge nugs, but will be dense. Also builds a lot of them along the center stem and maybe some from the lower longer nugs. Justy like the Godfather there is very few leaves in the long internode space. Has an intense coffee smell and dense branches to hold all the weight. I'm looking forward to seeing what she can do.
I gave her the name Redneck Barbie because she has an amazing structure and builds a ton of nugs for a Bubba pheno. I'll run a backcross after this seed run with the best Bubba pheno of the lot.

I'm happy to finally go into seed production and will post all my projects that pertain to Grindhouse . I'll add pics later on. I hope you guys dont mind

3k CMH plus HPS seems to be a great combo. I'v been getting great growth on great structure. The only plant that had weak stems was a super stretchy Planewreck male that i culled due to his weakness and small buds. Never had plants with this much vigor and initiate flowering so soon. The trainwreck male showed sex in 5 days.

Coming up next is Ultra Sonja 3 weeks at the most....
 

big ballin 88

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Sorry its taking me so long to get photos uploaded. I'm waiting on a new camera. The Redneck Barbie is seeded and is putting off some amazing kush flavors.

The difference i noticed in CMH is more of an increased vigor and density. Utilizing the HPS and CMH together gets you the benefits of both worlds, while removing some negatives.

The nice stretchy structure of HPS but with the increased branch size/thickness is my faovrite so far. Straight CMH was terrible for flowering since it had real short internodes that built way too much vegetation. This time around there is a lot less veg. probably from less internodes. I am expecting an increase in overall density this time around by using both bulbs.

Should have the pics up within the week, sorry guys.
 

big ballin 88

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Heres some new pics. First is some upgrades ive made since my last grow. First is a cool tube and riser to make the best of my Secret Jardin. You can see RedBarb on the side.


This is my new clonebox which i want to get rid of due to light leaks. The babies are looking weak because i hit them with their first foliar feeding of Dyna Gro proTekt and Ascophllum nodosum sea kelp. The nice thing about Pro TeKt is it helps build some thick stems. I've seen a noticeable difference using this product.



This is redneck barbie still early on (day 25). The smell coming from her is straight coffee/light citrus/hash. i tried taking pics of the seeded calyxs but im still getting used to this camera. The nice thing is i got two clones from her so i will be running her again. Also Barbie can hold up some weight! She has super thick SOLID stems and some decent resin for how early this is..


Going in another week is some Ultra Sonja. Than after i will pop all my Mob Boss to start a similar breeding project to this one. BXing to the father after the intial seed run.

I also plan to start a C99 project using bubba as the mother and the black as a mother.
 

big ballin 88

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I'm Sorry i cant update with pics. This no camera thing kinda sucks. I wont have that camera back for another month. I know this is a crappy show but thanks for stopping by.

However just for an update i've found this Bubba momma to be EXTREMELY picky to nutes. Not to mention a mistake on my part since one of my Blumt Jr's got clogged and stopped pulling water.
She lost some leaves but its whatever, life goes on. As long as i get some seeds in the end i'm good. The only sucky thing about this girl is she grows so slow and the buds are tiny. I'm still real early in but i can tell this is the kush pheno i've been looking for.

Also i was lucky enough to get my only 2 Ultra Sonja remaining are female. One sativa dom one indica dom. The sat dom looks like the one that most people consider the keeper due to its leaf curl and branching. I have 2 clones of each pheno. These plants smell reall good for shooting out their first flowers. This will be a test of my Carbon scrubber.

I gotta admit my first attempts at breeding have been all good luck so i have something on my side....
 

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Finlly i got around to taking some pictures. The bubba is at 5 weeks and the Ultra Sonjas are at 2.5
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The Ultra Sonja is quickly becoming my favorite. The sativa pheno is one sexy bitch, intend to keep her around. To me she looks distinctly Cheesey with the leaf curl going on. She has the nicest structure out of the plants i'm growing, she will be a yielder for sure..
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The indica pheno is looks to be a lot quicker of a gal and is already making nice nugs. Her smell is much fruitier than the other pheno which is starting to build on some rankness.
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Lastly is my Prophet gal with her super sexy coffee and hash aromas. Tiny nugs though, starting to put on some resin. Some of the buds had died when i hadn't been home for a couple days and missed watering her. She's still a nice looker regardless of the small yield she's gonna put out. Hopefully the male i hit her with can increase that in my future backcross with her youngins.
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Well today is a new day and finally my room is cooler, since i fixed some venting issues. Instead of having the vents separate once their out out my tent i linked them together. I also have to install rigid 90* bend which should help some.

I had to break the Bubbas neck just so i could utilize these lights. Shes really becoming a sexy girl. I take back what i said about yielding small, i think she'll make em dense by 70-75 days. Most of the nugs i pollinate dearly ended up dying with some barely grey seeds. I'm hoping they pop even though i only got two so far... Buds getting crystally at a fast pace.

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The cheesey ultra Sonja is my favorite she is just so sexy and has a classic appearance.
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And the indica girl isn't too bad either....
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Just for shits giggles here's some Mob Boss BHO
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C99 vs Mob Boss
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Well, like porky pig said thatttttTTTTTttttttTTTTTs alll folks....
 

gumball

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looks real good big ballin!! what is your opinion on that 3000k CMH versus the old 4000k you used?

i didnt know you could supercrop that far into flower. have you ran into any problems doing it this late?
 

big ballin 88

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I noticied less vegetation and thicker stems switching to the 3k bulb from the 4k. Also the structure is looking much nicer. Probably a combo of the HPS and CMH though. The 4k should only, be used for vegging. I think the CRI is too high, 92 i believe. The 3k is closer to the spectrum of the 4k HPS Retrowhite, CRI is 85. The nice thing about the CMH is quicker transitions from veg to flower and sexxing.

I've always supercropped until about 6 weeks as long as you take it easy. Branches recover quick if their fresh growth mostlyy less than a day. A thick, hollow stem like this will take like 2 days or less. Than again she was easy and flexible, like some girls i know.
 

big ballin 88

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Got six viable seeds so far! This stuff is great even early on. Super strong hash and coffee smell with a hint of bubblegum and intense resin output. I will try and reveg her just in case i decide to breed back to her from future pollen. She has the potential to stay around since i'm getting a new veg box with 70w HPS. The stretchier plants will be better for me in the end since i can train them

The Ultra Sonja is starting to get sexy and i have clones of each type to keep as a mother since she wasnt pollinated.

One thing i noticied was i put 1- Da Black in 4 days earlier and never gave it a Blumat Jr. for constant water supply. The plants that went in 4 days later and have a blumat jr. are much larger and branchier. This is also due to a transplant that happened right before. The ones that stayed in veg were the same size as the other one before going in so it has to be the constant source of water. Difference in light size is 1-18w PL-L vs 300w CMH/HPS
I'm starting to think constant water supply has a much bigger impact than i expected in terms of growth. I guess thats why hydroponics works so well.

I'll snap some shots tomorrow so you guys can see whats going on.
 

big ballin 88

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The more i grow Grindhouse gear the more i realize why i stick with this company in particular and will be using it as my staple in breeding.
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I have two Ultra Sonja girls that i love @ 3.5 weeks.

First is the one that follows Steele's description of cherry. This is still very early but this strain smelled of a sweet cherry/fruit punch which caught me by surprise. I've never had bud that had this aroma before, even the cheese I've smoked which wreaked like Parmesan. I expect flavor to change since this is reall early
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The next is the Sativa pheno who at this point smells of citrus like Grapefruit. Reminds me of a diesel i had way back in '05. Still a sexy girl and looks like she will be my producer. So many branches just keep coming out of everywhere.
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Redneck Barbie seeded up @ week 6
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I know these arent Grindhouse but i intend to use them to breed. I'll keep the pics small:tiphat:
Maybe Da Black x Ultra Sonja indy pheno.


Seeing all these Prophet F2's make me happy since its the first time i have made seeds. I'm excited to get deeper into breeding. I think breeding back these strains is a good place to start. Just wish i had more space. I really wanna pop some of these trainwreck(xSSH; x Afghan) crosses that i have.

One project that will be interesting is the Planewreck breeding back to the Afghan side with Steele's Ancient Afghan and maybe this Lapis Mountain Indica x DC i just started yesterday for my sis..Than again i'm excited for all my crosses that will be upcoming.
 

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Lookin great Big Ballin, Grindhouse genetics are really impressing me as well. There are a couple of other strains I have in the fridge...but who knows when I'll get to them.
 

big ballin 88

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Pictures taken during nap time.

Ultra Sonja- Sativa citrus. Looking at us with her neck bent. Shes gonna take about 10 weeks to grow it looks like.
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Ultra Sonja- Indica- Intense Cherry, candy aroma. No body odor, just straight candy. Even her color remind me of candy. probably gonna finish early since she's already flushing herself at 5.5 weeks. present. Gorgeous girl to look at. For some reason i feel she's my prettiest plant.
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Redneck barbie looking sexy. Cant say much i haven't said before. She's finally starting to pack on weight and resin though. Pictures dont do justice.
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gumball

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that red head barbie is a frosty bitch :D

everything looks good, need some N in there, but looks good nonetheless :)
 

big ballin 88

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Actually the US indy refuse to take it up. I've tried on three occasions to feed them with my normal mixture of hydrolyzed fish, seaweed, molasses and DG proTeKt for silica. The Ultra Sonja indica girl just wont take it up which leads me to belive she'll be harvested earlier. The other girl takes all of it up and stays nice and green, while RNB will burn if i even gave her a drop..
 

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Well got some bad news and good news...

The bad news is RB started to get moldy so i chopped her. Very dense nugs with the tiniest yield i've ever gotten. I see why they call these hash plants though. Pretty much all the leaves are good for hash and left my hand and scissors sticky with resin.

The good news is i got about 40 seeds to try and find what i'm looking for. Maybe send 20 into Seedbay....Also i setup my new 30gal rubbermaid with panda film so i'm just waiting for my 70w HPS to get here so i can make changes. I'm gonna run the 150w CMH for veg and the 70w HPS for flower I in its own cool tube. flower II will be the 150w HPS in its own cool tube also.

I have 5 Mob Boss seeds that popped yesterday and another runt i'm waiting on. They will be my next breeding project. I'll also be throwing in some deep chunk x Lapis mountain indica in for the hell of it.


side note: After the pinch test only 28 seeds remain. 11 of them have really nice tiger stripes and are rock solid brown/grey. Some are still a little green and need to dry some. 3 white one survived..
The only question now is should i go back to Smart pots and sacrifice plant count, or stay with the 4"x10" pots and pack in 16 plants in both flower vs 8. i'm leaning torwards the Smart Pots since they helped my yield and made better use of the light. I can always throw 2 plants in the same smart pot also.....
 

big ballin 88

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i had to ditch the 150w CMH. It was killing my yield by once again just adding vegetation. Now that i've switched it seems the buds are back on track to packing on weight, not leaf. Now the 150wCMH is in its own veg cab.

I have 5 Mob Boss getting ready to go in and 2 Deep Chunk x Lapis mountains Indica. I'm gonna have to throw two in soon, to keep up with my perpetual setup, even if their gonna be small...


My favorite girl is this cherry-lemon cheese girl. her smell is absolutly sexy and i cannot get enough of it. I'm gonna call her Lemon-cherry cheesecake. I have a clone of her luckily!! I feel if i veg her out long enough she'll be a good yielder of super frooty buds. Kinda reminds me of a sour fruity pebbles


And the lanky, ever so slow String Cheese...I have two clones of this one, but dont know how i feel about her...Theres no smell, super slow bud growth and really no resin. Both the Ultra Sonja's are about 5-6 weeks


Funny little BHO bubble...


I'm thinking for my next seeds of popping SSH x Trainwreck or UK Cheese x SSChemHaze...What do you guys think?? i'm gonna get back to breeding after i find a couple of mothers i'd like to keep around. I'll start back with the Prophet F2's i have once i get on track to a good perpetual...

Planning on keeping about 6-8mothers in my computer box(i can hold up to 10-12 if i make some changes)...
 
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