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BHO question, is wax/budder unpurged BHO?

mad librettist

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Starch and water?
I prefer the recipe with canna-flowers, butane and ethanol.

Не-Ньютонова жидкость [ne-njutonova ji:dkost’] (soft T in the end)


aw man, I wish you had waited one post to give the pronunciation. I can get through words slowly and it's always fun.

I have sat across from someone for an hour doing nothing but trying to perform the soft t. I never got it right.
 

jump117

Well-known member
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maybe in very small quantities the extract absorbs the oxygen to cause it to solidify or crystalize?
Oxygen does not cause it to solidify but degrades THC to CBN,
turns the color to dark and change its psycho action to numb dull on the sofa.

Those lab results surprisingly differ in ratios CBD/THC,
= 3,2% in budder,
= 0,9% in both bubbles,

and CBN/(THC+CBD), the degree of degradation,
= 0,7% in budder,
= 0,4% in bubble.

Both parameters show bubble is more fresh vs. budder.
 

KonradZuse

Active member
Crazy stuff, love what this thread is turning into, love the posts! I'm konfused exactly what the spectrum is trying to show(The numbers are different?) and what exactly is a "Ratio Rarity?"


Also Someone posted this
Here is what my dispencery lists on every bottle hon and I'll give you the amounts for my current favorite:

9-THCA 28.05%
9-THC 0.65 %
CBDA 0.12%
CBD 0.35%
9-THC Max 25.28%
CBD Max 0.45%

Microbiological: GOLD
(this is like a rating I guess - all of mine say GOLD I dont know what the other ratings would be. I always buy the best they have, but get different kinds for diff effects/situations. Like I said, I don't need labels to know weed after 40 years of buying it, but when I got home and checked them, all gold).


Just passing on info. Compared to buying weed from illegal drug dealers in the 'hood, this entire set up is a dream come true. All additional information is steps in the right direction for me. If someone had told me in 1971 I'd be buying clean, tested weed in a posh trendy store on beach front property LEGALLY I would have had them committed to a mental institution so pardon me if I'm a bit stoked about it all
:-D


KZ:
hmm......... Wht I want to know is why is there a thc and then a thc max, and why is thca so high.... Thca decarbs into thc, so I wonder if it loses potency? ALso if that's the case cbda should be higher than cbd? hmm I wonder...............
 

dope_roor

Member
well i gotta throw mine up as well :)







i dont know about that...i made a couple ounces of oil back in 2006 and lost a 1oz vial and found it last year during a move and it was still oil. maybe in very small quantities the extract absorbs the oxygen to cause it to solidify or crystalize?




-BhT:tiphat:


the oils were separated into half gram jars, however they were the clamshell designed ones so probably didn't provide a complete seal from the outside environment (they normally are distributed to patients rather quickly, not intended for long storage). maybe well stored in screw top vials would cause less degradation
 

BiG H3rB Tr3E

"No problem can be solved from the same level of c
Veteran
uploaded some lab results just for fun. great posts jump117

this data shows 9 tests on one variety looking at ice water extract from every angle using GC/MS.

published here on page 46 :) : http://issuu.com/kushdailybuds/docs/kushnocal_july11?AID=10829131&PID=4165478&SID=10p7nmee1b0bz



man i really wish i would have save a small sample from arjans "supposed" 99% bubble hash. even at the time before i had anything CG'ed i claimed bull shit. the highest i have seen bubble is 68% and that was from pure nug. the highest ive ever seen bho is 81% and that was unreal. just another reason i would never run GHS in my garden. too many lies + too much hype = too much bad vibes. no bad vibes inna my garden of righteousness!!!!
 

KonradZuse

Active member
man i really wish i would have save a small sample from arjans "supposed" 99% bubble hash. even at the time before i had anything CG'ed i claimed bull shit. the highest i have seen bubble is 68% and that was from pure nug. the highest ive ever seen bho is 81% and that was unreal. just another reason i would never run GHS in my garden. too many lies + too much hype = too much bad vibes. no bad vibes inna my garden of righteousness!!!!

Someone told me their BHO(From Washington) was 86%, I thought that was a good number, but I guess not. Als 99% arjan? haha damn, that's some crazy stuff... Some dood also told me he has 99% lebonese hash oil that was red. Said his friend worked for the Boston police and had this stuff apparently, not sure how much I actually believe though.
 
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pineolene

man i really wish i would have save a small sample from arjans "supposed" 99% bubble hash. even at the time before i had anything CG'ed i claimed bull shit. the highest i have seen bubble is 68% and that was from pure nug. the highest ive ever seen bho is 81% and that was unreal. just another reason i would never run GHS in my garden. too many lies + too much hype = too much bad vibes. no bad vibes inna my garden of righteousness!!!!

Blessed father.
99% is such a crock of sh*t. THC alone is garbage, as the terpenoids (cannabinoid modulators) are responsible for the actual high. THC% has ZERO RELATION TO HIGH STRENGTH OR TYPE. IT'S ALL MARKETING BS TO GET PEOPLE TO PAY FOR LAB TESTS THAT TELL US ALMOST NOTHING.

Via GC/MS 55% THC is about normal for good ice water hash. Via HPLC 80% is good for ice water hash. The differences in testing methods are huge.

bho, qwiso, CO2, ect are a mixture and solution of plant waxes, cannabinoids, terpenoids, other polar stuff dissolved by the solvent. To get to 99% THC you would have to remove all waxes and smell molecules, resulting in a crystalized white powder that won't get anyone high.
 

Sam_Skunkman

"RESIN BREEDER"
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I am curious pineolene, have you ever smoked 100$ pure THC?
To say it has zero relation to "high strength" is just not true.
Try smoking the terpenes without any THC, will you get high? NO!! THC is the framework that the terpenes use to express their effects, with THC.
I do find 100% pure THC effects flat and boring, compared to terpene rich resin or herbal Cannabis, but 100% pure THC will get you high, smoke or eat enough and you will be tripping.
But it is akin to 100% ethyl alcohol Vs a fine Chardonnay sure the strength is "stronger" but I know no one that drinks 100% ethyl alcohol, you know what I mean? They would rather drink a few bottles of fine beer, wine, or even distilled sprits then a glass of pure ethyl alcohol, same with Cannabis.

-SamS

Blessed father.
99% is such a crock of sh*t. THC alone is garbage, as the terpenoids (cannabinoid modulators) are responsible for the actual high. THC% has ZERO RELATION TO HIGH STRENGTH OR TYPE. IT'S ALL MARKETING BS TO GET PEOPLE TO PAY FOR LAB TESTS THAT TELL US ALMOST NOTHING.

Via GC/MS 55% THC is about normal for good ice water hash. Via HPLC 80% is good for ice water hash. The differences in testing methods are huge.

bho, qwiso, CO2, ect are a mixture and solution of plant waxes, cannabinoids, terpenoids, other polar stuff dissolved by the solvent. To get to 99% THC you would have to remove all waxes and smell molecules, resulting in a crystalized white powder that won't get anyone high.
 

budbasket

Member
"its a commonly used term, us stoners just get it wrong..".....chemists do tend to abbreviate everything possible it seems.
 

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