Are feminized seed less potent, and if so, why?

[Diamonddss]

For the record we've got two sides, lots of opinion, opinion being presented as fact (but little fact.) Pretty much like all the fem threads here. It's pretty logical to conclude that fems won't produce males. But everything else is opinion until proven. I might even go as far as subjective opinion. Until we get something other than repeat personal comments, the loudest guns are shooting blanks.

multiple post and threads state people got some males in "feminized" seeds so either they were sent the wrong seeds or some males are produced or the breeder fucked up.

DP feminized are just expected to "throw nanners". GH seeds have a very mixxed record. Great white shark has nothing but hermie reports. However ive seen no threads on lemon skuck or lemon silver haze herming. No doubt some strains have serious issues and some dont.

However i notice very few of the most recognized breeders that are considered the best dont do femm. Why is that? Mr. Nice, BOG, Rez(has done some).
Soma does some femm and also many threads saying Somas femmed are well known to herm

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

I'm no botanist but how does one manage a Y with no males? But you've got the idea, I can't definitively say w/o propping up my opinion with some data.

But I don't have a dog in this fight and just hope to read a little more than definite opinions.

 

[Diamonddss]

mk-ultra feminized found 15 days into flower too late as pollen was dumped on 16 other "feminized" plants.
no light leaks and this was no herm though the other mk ultra did throw some nanners and even just a few makes it a herm

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

So you got a MALE (no mixed flowers) out of a sack of fem beans? Handling error, maybe?

 

[Diamonddss]

So you got a MALE (no mixed flowers) out of a sack of fem beans? Handling error, maybe?

got 2 males.
google thseeds feminized mk ultra and you will not find one completed grow and every thread complaining of males and herms.

 

[Donald Mallard]

Got to love that word "smarmy" LOL . Seriously you really do have it all wrong with the hatin thing but I can't and won't convince you of that. Seeing as though most if not all the really really great genetics comes from "clone only" strains you can keep arguing this all you like and it changes nothing atleast for me. Just because I don't agree with you doesn't mean I'm laughing at you .. perhaps more with you as I'm usually stoned when I'm on here.Still this has been my experiences and perhaps you like weak bud what do I know right lol peace out Headband707

Oh yeah I forgot this part .. Many of the seeds today do come from fem linage which is why it's soooo fucked up with the seeds right now so yeah your right LOL

Youd be surprised head .
I have used feminised seeds in a cross before , i think i did 3 lines in total ,
i tested the mother plants , there was no problems ,,
i tested the faterh plants , there was no problems ,
and there was no problems reported with any progeny ,

the amount grown was in the thousands , not a single report of any interesexed trait , i grew hundreds , not a single intersexed plant ..
If youd grown the seed you would never have known anything different i assure you , because there is nothing different ..

Males produce intersexed traits also ,
its as common as the females that ive noticed ,,
just how many do you reckin are pushing that male all the way to see ??

 

[jm420]

Just about all of sagamatha's gear is junk hermies and mutants Regs or femmed.Read the SAG forum, some "breeders" just suck.From femmed sedds I;ve grown out DP Brainstorm absolutely sucked but no herms or mutants,Barney Farm ST great smoke good yeild no herms,SS WR Top notch commercial bud 300 an oz HUGE yeilder no herms,,Rock Lock DNA complete garbage but no herms,Sour creme dna reall good smoke above average yeild no herms,Paridise IC already run 20diffrent seeds, 5 seeds going now and not 1 herm or mutant to date..Absolutely great vigor and and growth and all handled moderate stress .

 

[Scrogerman]

There should be a name n shame list of all bad genetics in circulation. I concur DP suck ass big time! i can think of many breeders/strains that always have reported problems. But i dont see no name n shame list. Its about time there was one. just so new & old growers can make a better informed choice when buying beans. The list is long!
The sooner bad genetics get taken out of circulation the sooner we'll hear less of the 'Herm' problem, its a free for all atm. Might take decades though.


Fems clone with no problems.

 

[Baba Ku]

Problem with that is the subjective nature of the whole thing. Two many variables involved to be able to point specifically at the poor work of a breeder. I mean, how many times have we read of people having zero beans from a pack pop and right away they go on a campaign against the breeder or company they got the seeds from? I'm sorry, but that sort of anecdotal information, although holds a certain level of value...also holds a high degree of question.
IMO, a forum such as this just let run as it is does a fine job of getting information about specific products to the masses. Just like all things that work in the brilliance of the free market, information can be weighed, bought and sold at the discretion of each member.

Often times the majority of participants may well not have time or want to delve into researching things to purchase, and would rather just have a list to go to...or someone to tell them what the best most fantasticist seeds on the planet they should buy...(oh, and it needs to be below $50 merican)
Knowing that a list like that would be used and probably fought and argued about, how do we discern who's contribution to the list was valid, and who's was simply bullshit from someone trying to add to their post count?

IMO the list is far shorter than it should be and due to much of what I am talking about.
Just look how many people are turned off by fems? And why? Ignorance and voodoo logic that gets listed as credible fact.

 

[bobman]

There should be a name n shame list of all bad genetics in circulation. I concur DP suck ass big time! i can think of many breeders/strains that always have reported problems. But i dont see no name n shame list. Its about time there was one. just so new & old growers can make a better informed choice when buying beans. The list is long!
The sooner bad genetics get taken out of circulation the sooner we'll hear less of the 'Herm' problem, its a free for all atm. Might take decades though.


Fems clone with no problems.

HERE FUCKING HERE!!!! Genetics do not seem as good they used to be. I would suggest anyone looking for strains use the pm function and ask people who mentioned they are growing the same strain but never mentioned it again. You'd be surprised the answers you get. The industry really needs a non profits association of breeders and sellers that have set standards for breeding and seed production. That would cut a lot of the crap out.

 

[headband 707]

Smarmy and laughing would be in the following:
Yeah, anyone not down with the struggle like yourself would prolly like weak ass bud...only goes to reason.

Convince me? I give a rats ripe toss what you hate or don't..it's you saying you hate things.
That was you...yes?


Who knows if you are being facetious or what????
But good news for you possibly is that knowing that many standard lines may well have been worked using fem beans could give you an excuse to use for all the hermies and shitty looking buds.


(lol...weak bud indeed....lol, do get a firmer grip, Jr.)

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(Yeah, anyone not down with the struggle like yourself would prolly like weak ass bud...only goes to reason. )

Okay WTF?? LOL LOL LOL LOL.. Bra let me give you a hint here anyone who is this pissed off isn't smokin good bud LOL LOL.. peace out Headband707 ,,,,that tip is for free!!!!

 

[FistedSister]

long thread needs a pic !!

long thread needs a pic !!

chemdd selfed seed, yes she's potent !!

and she throws a nanner, just like momma

 

[headband 707]

HERE FUCKING HERE!!!! Genetics do not seem as good they used to be. I would suggest anyone looking for strains use the pm function and ask people who mentioned they are growing the same strain but never mentioned it again. You'd be surprised the answers you get. The industry really needs a non profits association of breeders and sellers that have set standards for breeding and seed production. That would cut a lot of the crap out.

Very much agreed here LOL things just don't seem to be as strong as they were WTF is that?? Do tell ...??... peace out Headband707

 

[bobman]

Very much agreed here LOL things just don't seem to be as strong as they were WTF is that?? Do tell ...??... peace out Headband707

I take it this is your attempt at sarcasm. Maybe you should read the entire post twice and practice your reading comprehension skills before commenting. I did not say stronger anywhere I said as good, and if you put together the whole statement I wrote (stop right here if your still having problems putting those things together) you would realize I am talking about consistency and quality in reference to scrogermans post. lol WTF D-BAG..... peace out bobman

 

[D.S. Toker. MD]

Ive grown dozens and dozens of packs of fems from a bunch of companies. Poorly bred fems dont hermie, they have multiple serious problems such as a range of plants from full males, hermies, females and numerous differnet pheno's that seem unrelated. All bad fems demonstrate these aspects. If you have poorly bred fems, it shows up big time.

Ive found the apperance of male flowers on femmed plants is about the same as it is in regular seeds. when smoking the bud, you occassionally find a seed or 2 in some strains.

Greenhouse, Paradise, Dinafem, Kannabia, Sweet seeds, Royal Qeen, Homegrown fantaseeds = all quality products

Sagmartha and sensi seed fems are a rip off and were bred by inexperienced breeders that didnt have a clue how to feminize cannbis. To add insult to injury, neither company sprouted a single seed for a test grow before they put the crap out on the market. The seeds are awful, misbred misfits and they should be pulled from the market.

 

[headband 707]

I take it this is your attempt at sarcasm. Maybe you should read the entire post twice and practice your reading comprehension skills before commenting. I did not say stronger anywhere I said as good, and if you put together the whole statement I wrote (stop right here if your still having problems putting those things together) you would realize I am talking about consistency and quality in reference to scrogermans post. lol WTF D-BAG..... peace out bobman

Okay then well let me just state your wrong lol lol.. So before you get your panties in a knot "RELAX" as I was agreeing with you as the post stated in the first place ,,the" Do tell "was for anyone who could give a reason ....What is with ppl seriously always trying to start BULLSHIT??? WTF?? grow up bobman


Oh yeah BTW my attempts at sarcasm usually start with okay you asshole moron ...

 

[SkimmingDaSky]

I would like to comment on Sagathmartha's fems. I have seen a lot of ppl complaining about their quality. I believe they got raided, lost most of their stock, and randoms are now breeding their seeds. I have a pack of Western Winds from 2006, and I got lucky. No hermie traits, just a good quality sativa. I just popped 2 more so we shall see.

I wish breeders were more honest about their seeds. I really like Western Winds, but I guess the real Western Winds will be lost forever. Kinda sucks that others will not be able to experience it.

 

[bobman]

Relax, don't get your panties in a knot, I preference my remark by saying "I take it this is your attempt at sarcasm". All you have to is say is I was agreeing with you but it's hard to interpret your remarks as anything but sarcastic especially when you replace as good with stronger. But if that is what you are saying I apologize if I offended you. Now please stop mooning me.

 

[headband 707]

Okay bobman I will stop moonin lol peace out Headband707