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The NSA just admitted last week on drudgereport.com that every US citizen is under surveillance...so I would be careful...I don't grow so I don't worry too much but still be careful...
Anyone ever been busted for posting stuff on the internet?
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I frequent a news aggregator site were people comment on various news stories. A poster in the politics forum made threatening comments regarding then president Bush. He very promptly got a visit from the Secret Service. That is the only instance I know of where someone got a visit from authorities based on an Internet post
Remember OG? Everyone here is aware that the US Feds got their hands on the server hard drives, no? I'm not aware of any of the OG posters (myself included) busted so far.
I think the only time there will be issues is if you aren't careful about posting a specific location or using photos that were taken with a smartphone or newer camera that includes GPS data.
Don't poke the bear.
Remember OG? Everyone here is aware that the US Feds got their hands on the server hard drives, no? I'm not aware of any of the OG posters (myself included) busted so far.
I think the only time there will be issues is if you aren't careful about posting a specific location or using photos that were taken with a smartphone or newer camera that includes GPS data.
Don't poke the bear.
They bust the guys posting kiddie porn all the time. Personally instead of busting them I think they should just show up, pop a cap in their head and leave. But they take these guys down and get a lot of them at the same time. So yeah, if they want you they will get you.
i thought og servers were safely stashed away. i need the feds name so i can ask for my pics back LOL
Posting can get you busted in the right (or wrong) circumstances. Not that I think this should in any way have been legal, welcome to the new america.
http://www.katu.com/news/local/Cops...tdoor-concert-in-Washington-Co-163245526.html
BEAVERTON, Ore. – Beaverton police officers confiscated marijuana and other drugs from several people heading to an outdoor concert near North Plains. Officers conducted the three-day drug operation along Hwy 26 this week.
Investigators had seen on blogs and social media that lots of people were planning to use drugs at an outdoor concert being held this weekend in the Horning’s Hideout area, according to Beaverton Police Sgt. James Shumway.
“It’s clear that there is anticipation of a lot of drugs being available,” he said.
To stop the drugs from reaching the concert, officers set up along Highway 26 on Wednesday, Thursday and Friday. They pulled over more than four dozen vehicles and found drugs in several, Shumway said.
Shumway said they weren’t targeting any person specifically, but rather pulled people over for traffic violations. He said if officers then had reasonable suspicious there were drugs in the car they conducted a search.
Investigators seized about three pounds of marijuana, found candy they think is laced with pot and arrested three people.
One of the people arrested, 32-year-old David Edwin Welles, is the drummer of one of the bands scheduled to play at the concert.
Last year a Cedar Mill woman was hit and killed by a man who had left a concert at this same venue. Cory Jensen had left a festival and was high on LSD when he struck and killed Cynthia Rabe.
Jensen is now serving a ten year prison sentence.
Shumway said Rabe’s death last year was a big motivating factor in getting out and stopping drugs from reaching this concert.
“It’s a ton of drugs,” he said. “Something has to be done.”
http://www.katu.com/news/local/Cops...tdoor-concert-in-Washington-Co-163245526.html
BEAVERTON, Ore. – Beaverton police officers confiscated marijuana and other drugs from several people heading to an outdoor concert near North Plains. Officers conducted the three-day drug operation along Hwy 26 this week.
Investigators had seen on blogs and social media that lots of people were planning to use drugs at an outdoor concert being held this weekend in the Horning’s Hideout area, according to Beaverton Police Sgt. James Shumway.
“It’s clear that there is anticipation of a lot of drugs being available,” he said.
To stop the drugs from reaching the concert, officers set up along Highway 26 on Wednesday, Thursday and Friday. They pulled over more than four dozen vehicles and found drugs in several, Shumway said.
Shumway said they weren’t targeting any person specifically, but rather pulled people over for traffic violations. He said if officers then had reasonable suspicious there were drugs in the car they conducted a search.
Investigators seized about three pounds of marijuana, found candy they think is laced with pot and arrested three people.
One of the people arrested, 32-year-old David Edwin Welles, is the drummer of one of the bands scheduled to play at the concert.
Last year a Cedar Mill woman was hit and killed by a man who had left a concert at this same venue. Cory Jensen had left a festival and was high on LSD when he struck and killed Cynthia Rabe.
Jensen is now serving a ten year prison sentence.
Shumway said Rabe’s death last year was a big motivating factor in getting out and stopping drugs from reaching this concert.
“It’s a ton of drugs,” he said. “Something has to be done.”
i hate threads like this, lol. makes me want to destroy all my email adds. and weed site affiliations........
but then i smoke some Chron and say fuckit, as Supermanlives said, "they cant get us all!"
RBDF
but then i smoke some Chron and say fuckit, as Supermanlives said, "they cant get us all!"
RBDF
For anyone who is interested in protecting themselves but lacking in the technological know how, try Tails. It runs from a USB or CD so you can keep your Windows as your regular OS and then conduct your seedy anonymous activities in encrypted privacy whilst masquerading as a technically clueless dunderhead.
Not to start an OS war but most Linux distros are several rungs up the security ladder from Windows, straight out of the gate. With a distro like Tails, used correctly, you would have to try pretty hard to mess your anonymity up. There's also another similar distro called Liberte but I haven't tried it. In fact I, uh, haven't tried Tails either!
Tormail is a very interesting situation. For those unaware, it's a hidden service hosted on the Tor network. This lends it enormous anonymity properties (If you've heard of the Silk Road, that's also a hidden service famed for it's current unbustability - I even read that Tormail is integral to the whole operation of SR - makes sense if true). However, nobody can really say who runs Tormail. It could be the NSA, could be the SR crew, could be a pack of enterprising gypsies. Other than that though, it's secure as fuck. Anyone who's doing anything serious can simply encrypt their communications, rendering them unreadable to the Tormail administrators and indeed, the whole world apart from who it was actually sent to. Call me crazy but that's actually how emails or any other private communication should be. It's preposterous that someone has to go to such lengths for such a simple human need.
So, not that it means much, but I feel reasonably safe with tormail. Certainly a million times better than any major webmail or ISP mail pumping my emails to the authorities. Those are absolutely untrustable unless you go to a lot of effort to obscure yourself and it's easy to slip up.
I can understand the laid back guys being not too concerned. Frankly there is a lot worse stuff happening online than a bunch of us guys. A problem I see with that mindset though is that all the true criminals have taken steps to essentially be unbustable, since that technology exists and it's reasonably easy, leaving you guys as the dreaded "low hanging fruit".
Hope you all stay safe and high.
anything set up to be where you go to feel safe sounds to me like the PERFECT gig for the FBI or CIA to be operating.... especially this whole "tormail" thing.... jeeze.... hey guys who want to be secretive, go to this tormail website and send all of your stuff you want to be secretive about there...... lololol...
..... feds prob got the idea from hushmail after they realized people with security concerns/risks flocked over there..... then they went and made hushmail hand over some shit and made it public so that the security conscience people would look up their more secure email network they created called TORMAIL then abruptly flock over there and start talking their secret topics there where the gov has a big screen open where they watch what is sent LIVE.... just a thought....dont tell me its not possible or ill laugh at you
Nosmo King
Member
Google 'Overgrow.com arrests'
FarmerGreen
Member
Lots of interesting points here. But heartening that no-one has actually said "the police came knocking at my door after they saw my grow diary on Icmag"...
The Professor
Member
I used to be a somewhat active poster back in the OG days but no more. The laws in the US changed so drastically since then it would be wise to assume everything is being monitored, always. Unless you're in a med state the risk simply isn't worth it.. and even then. My state is one of the 6 with "pending" mmj legislation. To be looked at and voted on... who knows when.
If that should come to pass favorably and if I become state legit I may contribute regularly again. Who knows, lots of "if's". Otherwise I'll continue to be the cautious "4 post noob" that reads a lot and posts never (who in fact is not a newbie at all). After the demise of OG I'm sure there are countless untold others who went offline for good in mj forums and you sure can't argue with the wisdom of that. That is, after all the most failsafe internet security of them all.
I'm running TOR Firefox under Linux and even in a med state I don't see WHY you wouldn't do this. Should your ISP knowingly peg you as a mj user? I think not. Not until the law changes at the Federal level at least. Sure TOR is a bit slower and you may have to log back in frequently because when your IP changes randomly the site needs to reconfirm that you are really you. Which absolutely is a chore at times but believe you me when you consider what's at stake it's worth it.
If you use TOR I also strongly recommend using DNSCrypt. This is the encrypted version of OpenDNS which bypasses your internet providers DNS servers entirely which is often the "forgotten link" (no pun intended) of the internet security chain. Running a TOR Firefox install from an encrypted drive or partition as has already been mentioned here is about as good as can be done. And for gawd sakes never post anything that would threaten your freedom from a cell phone!
These pay-for internet proxy services provide a false sense of security IMO. They all pretty much say in their terms of service that they'll happily cough you up if someone comes asking. Are you a big enough fish to "warrant" looking into? Maybe, maybe not. But they all leave a paper trail straight back to you either way. And to my mind a paid proxy pretty much screams "I have something major to hide". What if someone decides to find out what that something is? You want to be invisible, not dressed up in some easy to spot camouflage . Forget Hushmail, that's for sending e-mail to your "other" girlfriend. If you need a good, free encrypted e-mail look into safe-mail.net.
If you're in a mmj state and compliant you'd still be wise to run TOR and in all other cases you'd be absolutely foolish not to. Without that one simple precaution finding out where you go and what you do is truly as simple as looking. With warrantless spying now the norm, again it's best to assume that everything is being monitored always. When the laws changed I read quite a bit about the special government rooms being set up at ISP hubs, rooms through which ALL internet traffic goes. And this is not some tinfoil hat conspiracy theory, this was first hand accounts from employees (or former employees) who worked at the ISPs when everything changed.
Is the government specifically targeting you and your 10 plant wardrobe closet grow with all of this? No, probably not. Regardless I think it would be rather naive to believe they aren't collecting a startling invasive digital profile on every single person they can. "Do they know what I'm up to?" can best be answered with "What steps am I taking to insure that they don't?" If the answer is nothing, well...
Like it or not, cryptography is the only bastion of freedom we have left in the digital age. And this is simply recognizing that this is the age we live in now.
Be safe. ~The Prof
If that should come to pass favorably and if I become state legit I may contribute regularly again. Who knows, lots of "if's". Otherwise I'll continue to be the cautious "4 post noob" that reads a lot and posts never (who in fact is not a newbie at all). After the demise of OG I'm sure there are countless untold others who went offline for good in mj forums and you sure can't argue with the wisdom of that. That is, after all the most failsafe internet security of them all.
I'm running TOR Firefox under Linux and even in a med state I don't see WHY you wouldn't do this. Should your ISP knowingly peg you as a mj user? I think not. Not until the law changes at the Federal level at least. Sure TOR is a bit slower and you may have to log back in frequently because when your IP changes randomly the site needs to reconfirm that you are really you. Which absolutely is a chore at times but believe you me when you consider what's at stake it's worth it.
If you use TOR I also strongly recommend using DNSCrypt. This is the encrypted version of OpenDNS which bypasses your internet providers DNS servers entirely which is often the "forgotten link" (no pun intended) of the internet security chain. Running a TOR Firefox install from an encrypted drive or partition as has already been mentioned here is about as good as can be done. And for gawd sakes never post anything that would threaten your freedom from a cell phone!
These pay-for internet proxy services provide a false sense of security IMO. They all pretty much say in their terms of service that they'll happily cough you up if someone comes asking. Are you a big enough fish to "warrant" looking into? Maybe, maybe not. But they all leave a paper trail straight back to you either way. And to my mind a paid proxy pretty much screams "I have something major to hide". What if someone decides to find out what that something is? You want to be invisible, not dressed up in some easy to spot camouflage . Forget Hushmail, that's for sending e-mail to your "other" girlfriend. If you need a good, free encrypted e-mail look into safe-mail.net.
If you're in a mmj state and compliant you'd still be wise to run TOR and in all other cases you'd be absolutely foolish not to. Without that one simple precaution finding out where you go and what you do is truly as simple as looking. With warrantless spying now the norm, again it's best to assume that everything is being monitored always. When the laws changed I read quite a bit about the special government rooms being set up at ISP hubs, rooms through which ALL internet traffic goes. And this is not some tinfoil hat conspiracy theory, this was first hand accounts from employees (or former employees) who worked at the ISPs when everything changed.
Is the government specifically targeting you and your 10 plant wardrobe closet grow with all of this? No, probably not. Regardless I think it would be rather naive to believe they aren't collecting a startling invasive digital profile on every single person they can. "Do they know what I'm up to?" can best be answered with "What steps am I taking to insure that they don't?" If the answer is nothing, well...
Like it or not, cryptography is the only bastion of freedom we have left in the digital age. And this is simply recognizing that this is the age we live in now.
Be safe. ~The Prof
Yeah, it was skunk 1 he grew in those big pics. I think he got popped cause of a snitch, not posting pics, i think. right before he got busted he said about one friend was talkin about getting a girl and stop growing or something like that. Either way, he was way too cocky.
SacredBreh
Member
Things have completely changed in the US since OG days..
Things have completely changed in the US since OG days..
The world as we know it has changed drastically since the days of OG... Both good and bad. Hell, there are hundreds if not thousands of popular sites dedicated to the Craft, now. I remember as a kid being so happy when Ed Rosenthal put out the very first acceptable instruction book.
Now days shit there are whole product lines dedicated to just our sacred herb. There are 17 states with hundreds of thousands of quasi legal growers. Lots of cover to hide in. There was a time when I used Findnot.Com to hide all traffic even from my ISP. All they could see was that I was sending jibberish through their servers and on the out end of Findnot.com is was buried in thousands more streams. FindNot got taken down just like OG.
If you are important enough or hit their radar..... you are done got. With the data mining they are doing and the sophistication of surveillance, any illusion of safety anyone has is just that... an illusion. Purchases, card uses, deliveries, electrical consumption, etc. Shit I can spot another grower in Homey-Lowes just by what is in their baskets... without subpoenaing the other stuff. It can not be hidden. Point is not to stick out from the crowd.
Pictures unless they have distinguishing characteristic (tattoos, faces, etc.) are considered hear-say unless the one who took them testifies when and where they took them. This is from an attorney who was very instrumental in one of the legal states.
PGP--withstood 6 months of FBI trying to crack it on a Pedophile case that they knew the pictures were on the Pedophile's hard drive. Dismissed due to them not breaking it. Google for yourself. Doubt it would hold now and that was only a couple years ago. Unless you write over all free space with the program more than 3 times they can pull anything you ever put on the hard drive. The inventor of PGP was even put in prison because he exported the program out of the US.
Point is... you can cut the odds but never all the way. Now with NDAA and such... best you can do is be a small fish in a school and keep your Karma good.
Just think if the right person gets elected and writes a new memo that says......SICK'EM! Instead of hold back.... life can change lots in a very short time.
Peace
Things have completely changed in the US since OG days..
The world as we know it has changed drastically since the days of OG... Both good and bad. Hell, there are hundreds if not thousands of popular sites dedicated to the Craft, now. I remember as a kid being so happy when Ed Rosenthal put out the very first acceptable instruction book.
Now days shit there are whole product lines dedicated to just our sacred herb. There are 17 states with hundreds of thousands of quasi legal growers. Lots of cover to hide in. There was a time when I used Findnot.Com to hide all traffic even from my ISP. All they could see was that I was sending jibberish through their servers and on the out end of Findnot.com is was buried in thousands more streams. FindNot got taken down just like OG.
If you are important enough or hit their radar..... you are done got. With the data mining they are doing and the sophistication of surveillance, any illusion of safety anyone has is just that... an illusion. Purchases, card uses, deliveries, electrical consumption, etc. Shit I can spot another grower in Homey-Lowes just by what is in their baskets... without subpoenaing the other stuff. It can not be hidden. Point is not to stick out from the crowd.
Pictures unless they have distinguishing characteristic (tattoos, faces, etc.) are considered hear-say unless the one who took them testifies when and where they took them. This is from an attorney who was very instrumental in one of the legal states.
PGP--withstood 6 months of FBI trying to crack it on a Pedophile case that they knew the pictures were on the Pedophile's hard drive. Dismissed due to them not breaking it. Google for yourself. Doubt it would hold now and that was only a couple years ago. Unless you write over all free space with the program more than 3 times they can pull anything you ever put on the hard drive. The inventor of PGP was even put in prison because he exported the program out of the US.
Point is... you can cut the odds but never all the way. Now with NDAA and such... best you can do is be a small fish in a school and keep your Karma good.
Just think if the right person gets elected and writes a new memo that says......SICK'EM! Instead of hold back.... life can change lots in a very short time.
Peace
Nosmo King
Member
Anyone remember Luke Scarmazzo. This peckerwood self produced this rap video
www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5niNz39Fco
He ran a Modesto club his video was payed more then once during his trial and appeal.
He was sentenced to 21 years and 10 months upheld on appeal.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5niNz39Fco
He ran a Modesto club his video was payed more then once during his trial and appeal.
He was sentenced to 21 years and 10 months upheld on appeal.
once its posted to the net...its there for the duration.
I guess y'all could ask Brandon Raub about posting on the net
and being arrested...
I guess y'all could ask Brandon Raub about posting on the net
and being arrested...
it worries me but we either LIVE ON OUR FEET or die on our knees ( and yes I did switch that, as that saying NEEDS a good switchin damn it! )
