Aliens, yay or nay?

[HempKat]

This isn't necessarily alien related although some think it is, it's certainly a mystery more suggestive of aliens then some of the other ancient structures people have speculated were alien engineered.

http://msnvideo.msn.com/?channelind...d#/video/8ecf7a3a-5356-2b1c-2d4f-9ea5da37ba69

It's basically a brief video about a crystal like pyramid, that has been independently confirm by two different countries (US and France I believe) sitting at the bottom of the ocean in the Bermuda triangle that is bigger then the pyramids in Egypt, semi translucent and has two openings at the top shooting out jets of water strong enough to effect the surface of the ocean above it.

 

[bill cooper]

 

[BushyOldGrower]

I saw roads down in the triangle but some said they were natural formations. If this structure is real it would be big news but consider the source. Weekly world?

Even I doubt some shit...

 

[DrFever]

i like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OsuiRmexWk


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNLfNe12BKE

 

[vonforne]

Maybe not aliens it could be our ancestors or even us in the (from) the future trying to set us in the right direction. There are unexplained building structures and different forms of humans throughout history. It could explain the religious side of humanity.

There are also signs of great conflict on earth that are unexplained also. Destruction that no primitive society we know of could have caused.

There are others out there but to classify them as alien would be incorrect. Just different from the current form of humans as we know them in this stage of our history.

V

 

[DrFever]

here check out this link showing 5 pieces of evidence

http://www.paranormalhaze.com/5-pieces-of-evidence-that-suggests-intelligent-alien-life-exists/


Skeptics and believers are constantly combating each other as to whether or not there is intelligent life in the universe. Skeptics use lack of evidence as their main offensive and defensive weapon, but here I will submit to you 5 amazing pieces of evidence that suggests that intelligent extraterrestrial life exists.




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George Bernard Shaw once famously quipped, “We learn from history that we learn nothing from history”. This quote is fitting to this piece of evidence that suggests the UFO phenomenon has been around as long as human civilization has existed and yet it is consistently dismissed. Today many UFO sightings are often explained away as being the US military testing some new technological weapon or plane, but this explanation cannot be used in a time when human flight was impossible.

The painting above is titled “The Madonna with Saint Giovannino” and dates back to around the 15th century. The painting depicts the Virgin Mary in the foreground, and in the background is what appears to be a man looking up in awe at an object that is strikingly similar to our modern day perception of a UFO.

This is not the only example of UFOs in ancient art. There are literally hundreds of examples of objects in the sky in many paintings spanning across the centuries. Strangely, the majority of the paintings depict UFOS in connection with a spiritual figure or experience. This could be how the people of the period interpreted the things they were seeing or perhaps there is a literal connection between the spiritual and UFOs.

Erich von Däniken, author of the famous and controversial Chariots of The Gods, suggests that our gods and angles maybe intelligent aliens. In the Old Testament, The Book of Ezekiel discusses an encounter with a strange flying object made of metal that took the shape of a wheel. Inside were four living creatures that looked like humans. Many people believe the Bible to be the literal word of God; it should be especially hard for those people to ignore this evidence. It is the Gospel after all.

Many may have a hard time taking the theories of Däniken seriously, but even respected astrophysicist Carl Sagan believed that we should seriously consider the possibility that extraterrestrial contact occurred in the past, so we should not completely dismiss this idea.




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Three days into the Apollo 11 flight the astronauts on board sent a strange message to mission control asking, “Do you have any idea where the S-4B is with respect to us?” The astronauts were asking where the final stage of the rocket was, which had been detached two days prior. The reason for this inquiry was because something was riding along side of the rocket and if it wasn’t part of the rocket, Apollo 11 had a visitor.

The crew on board did not want to make a big deal out of the object for fear that it would cause a panic and mission control would order the astronauts to abandon the mission. “The three of us were not going to blurt out, ‘hey Houston we got something moving along side of us and we don’t know what it is’ we weren’t about to do that…someone might of demanded we turn back because of aliens or whatever it is,” said astronaut Buzz Aldrin when discussing the situation at a later date.

Mission control did answer the astronaut’s cryptic question about the location of the S-4b unit. The unit was 6,000 miles from their location. What Aldrin and the other three astronauts were looking at was an Unidentified Flying Object exhibiting an intelligent flight path. In fact, according to Dr. David Baker, an Apollo 11 Senior Scientist, astronauts seeing UFOs is not uncommon and dates back to the early earth orbit space flights.

If your friend who works at the video store claims to have seen a sea monster, his story has very little credibility. If an experienced Naval Captain claims to have seen a sea monster then his sighting has tremendous credibility. If experienced and respected astronauts are seeing evidence of intelligent life outside of Earth it should also be taken very seriously.




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In 1977, at Ohio Sate University, The Big Ear radio telescope picked up an unusual signal. Big Ear used numbers and letters to determine the strength of a signal, 0 being meaningless noise and Z being a strong radio signal. An astronomer, Dr. Jerry R. Ehman, studying the data from the telescope was shocked when a radio signal clocking in at ‘6EQUJ5’ came from a seemingly empty spot in space. Ehman was so shocked that he circled the signal on the data sheet and simply wrote ‘Wow’.

The transmission lasted 37 seconds and came from the Sagittarius constellation. Even more interesting is the fact that the nearest star in that specific direction is 220 million light years away. In other words, the signal came from an empty spot in space. It is also interesting to note that the signal had all the characteristics of an interstellar broadcast.

Some have tried to explain that the signal is somehow of an Earthly origin, but this seems unlikely as the signal was in a frequency that is internationally banned on Earth. The conclusion that has the most evidence going for it is that it is of an extraterrestrial origin, and because there are no stars near where the signal was found one can conclude that it came from a spacecraft manned by intelligent entities.




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N = the number of civilizations in our galaxy with which communication might be possible;
R* = the average rate of star formation per year in our galaxy
ƒp = the fraction of those stars that have planets
ne = the average number of planets that can potentially support life per star that has planets
ƒℓ = the fraction of the above that actually go on to develop life at some point
fi = the fraction of the above that actually go on to develop intelligent life
ƒc = the fraction of civilizations that develop a technology that releases detectable signs of their existence into space
L = the length of time such civilizations release detectable signals into space.

Radio astronomer Frank Drake developed the Drake equation so he could estimate the number of planets harboring intelligent life in the galaxy by taking into consideration the factors listed above. A rigorous estimate using the Drake Equation was implemented in 2001, which also took into consideration the number of planets that are in the habitable zone (The habitable zone is an area around a star were water is in liquid form, temperature is ideal, and photosynthesis is possible). The results found that hundreds of thousands of life-bearing planets statistically should exist. It also suggested that a habitable planet like the Earth should exist just a few hundred light years away.

I find it unfair if I did not now also give equal mention to the Fermi paradox. The Fermi paradox states that if so many planets exist with intelligent life why is there a lack of contact between the intelligent life and us and why is there such a lack of physical evidence of said intelligent life. The paradox exists in that the Drake equation statistically proves life should be abundant and yet physical evidence says otherwise. It is hard to combat the arguments from the Fermi paradox except that some physical evidence does exist as you can see from this writing.




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In 2003, astronomers with the search for extraterrestrial intelligence (SETI) used a massive telescope to examine sections of the sky where they had previously found unexplained radio signals. They found another radio signal that was even stronger than what they had previously found.

The signal came from an area in space where there are no planets or stars and strangely was at a frequency that hydrogen absorbs, ensuring that the signal would be strong and could travel great distances. The signal was detected on three separate occasions.

“The signal is moving rapidly in frequency and you would expect that to happen if you are looking at a transmitter on a planet that’s rotating very rapidly and where the civilization is not correcting the transmission for the motion of the planet,” Says USB researcher Eric Korpela. Considering the signal operates as if it is intelligently operated and the fact that it was detected multiple times one has to consider this SETI signal the best candidate for proof of intelligent life on other planets.

 

[DrFever]

another piece of evidence

Three days into the Apollo 11 flight the astronauts on board sent a strange message to mission control asking, “Do you have any idea where the S-4B is with respect to us?” The astronauts were asking where the final stage of the rocket was, which had been detached two days prior. The reason for this inquiry was because something was riding along side of the rocket and if it wasn’t part of the rocket, Apollo 11 had a visitor.

The crew on board did not want to make a big deal out of the object for fear that it would cause a panic and mission control would order the astronauts to abandon the mission. “The three of us were not going to blurt out, ‘hey Houston we got something moving along side of us and we don’t know what it is’ we weren’t about to do that…someone might of demanded we turn back because of aliens or whatever it is,” said astronaut Buzz Aldrin when discussing the situation at a later date.

Mission control did answer the astronaut’s cryptic question about the location of the S-4b unit. The unit was 6,000 miles from their location. What Aldrin and the other three astronauts were looking at was an Unidentified Flying Object exhibiting an intelligent flight path. In fact, according to Dr. David Baker, an Apollo 11 Senior Scientist, astronauts seeing UFOs is not uncommon and dates back to the early earth orbit space flights.

If your friend who works at the video store claims to have seen a sea monster, his story has very little credibility. If an experienced Naval Captain claims to have seen a sea monster then his sighting has tremendous credibility. If experienced and respected astronauts are seeing evidence of intelligent life outside of Earth it should also be taken very seriously.

 

[HempKat]

I saw roads down in the triangle but some said they were natural formations. If this structure is real it would be big news but consider the source. Weekly world?

Even I doubt some shit...

Well I agree, if it was real, then a better, more credible source could have been picked for announcing it. All I can add is that I heard this same story from another offbeat source about a year ago. Not long after James Cameron (Director of Movies like Aliens, Titanic and Avatar) did his solo dive into the Mariana Trench. According to that story the pyramid had just been discovered and James Cameron was talking about using his resources to help assist in discovering what exactly this thing was. I haven't heard any more about James Cameron's involvement since then.

Point being that the source my previous post was from isn't the first and only source for this story. My guess is in this day and age where most of the world's major governments are struggling financially none are willing to allocate much money for looking into something like this. For now the Bermuda triangle is viewed by most as something akin to Bigfoot or The Loch Ness Monster. I do hope if such a thing really exists in the Bermuda Triangle, that someone like a James Cameron does get involved. If anyone should be able to get good convincing pictures of something so amazing it should be him. Plus being who he is more people would take his word over some unknown person claiming to have discovered something.

What particularly catches my attention is the jets of water claimed to be coming out of the thing. That was mentioned in both stories and is what is most suggestive of an alien aspect. Otherwise it could turn out to be merely an ancient artifact from a land that sank into the ocean millennia ago or even a freak, never before seen but natural growth formation. The jets of water suggest a mechanical function, which suggests design, purpose, intelligence. The fact that it's been there for a very long time and is operational still suggests alien design since I can't think of an example of man building a machine that would operate non stop for hundred maybe thousands of years at the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean. The only other logical explanations would be the existence in the past of a more advanced race of man then we're currently aware of such as those who might be from the famed city of Atlantis. Or that we do at some point in time discover time travel and brought this thing from the future presumably to fix something.

One could also imagine some pretty fantastic things like perhaps this pyramid was something like what was described at the end of the movie Mission to Mars. Where the earth astronauts find a single surviving martian who tells them how when they learned mars was dying they sent out their genetic seed to start life on other planets so that something of them would continue on. That maybe this pyramid not only seeded the oceans with alien life that evolved into what we have here on earth now but maybe also the jets perform a sort of terraforming function by causing the sea currents to flow a certain way to affect climate? Not necessarily from Mars of course but from any planet that might have a race of devising such things.

Another possible but far out theory is that it is part of some sort of transport device and it is behind all the things we believe that have disappeared into the Bermuda Triangle. That it was put here as a means for an alien race to come here periodically in a way we wouldn't be likely to detect. Perhaps somewhere in a part of space in a galaxy far far away there are various planes and boats from our planet, the ones that went missing, just floating around inadvertently transported the other way by accident because they got too close? Although if that's true how did we ever find it? Why weren't the discoverers also transported wherever the thing transports to? Did something happen that closed off that from happening? Was it something that was fixed on the other end to keep anything else from disappearing and maybe drawing unwanted attention to where the pyramid was located?

I dunno, maybe it's just a really freak volcanic formation that over the years has been transformed into what appears to be a pyramid and that maybe the jets are just an opening for some sort of odd volcanic activity still going on? What's important to me about the story besides the jets is that while the sources haven't been the most trusted sources of news in neither story did the people discovering make any claims to what it is. Each time those people where just saying "Hey we found this thing, this is what it looks like, this is where it is, we don't know where it came from or why it's here and that they hope to learn more. In each story when it came to speculation of who, what, where and why that was always from others who have heard about the discovery. So for now, I'm inclined to believe there actually is something there and that at some point in the relatively near future someone will try to learn more about it and will hopefully share what they learn when they do.

I must say I'm quite surprised to hear you doubting the story since nothing particularly remarkable has yet to be claimed beyond that a pyramid like structure that appears to be crystalline in nature has been found at the bottom of the ocean. Other things have been found beneath the ocean so there is nothing really all that out of the ordinary to what's been actually claimed. It only begins to becoming perhaps difficult to believe when you tie an alien link to it so the last person I would expect to be skeptical of that would be someone claiming to have their own personal alien experience. I wonder if it is where they found it? Would it have seemed different somehow if it wasn't found in the Bermuda Triangle since many believe the Bermuda Triangle is a bunch of superstitious nonsense?

 

[HempKat]

Maybe not aliens it could be our ancestors or even us in the (from) the future trying to set us in the right direction. There are unexplained building structures and different forms of humans throughout history. It could explain the religious side of humanity.

There are also signs of great conflict on earth that are unexplained also. Destruction that no primitive society we know of could have caused.

There are others out there but to classify them as alien would be incorrect. Just different from the current form of humans as we know them in this stage of our history.

V

Good points, some of which I just expanded on in the previous post.

 

[DreamsofTesla]

Canadian Defense Minister Paul Hellyer, discussing aliens on earth as an absolute fact.

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[Stoner4Life]

 

[LEDfoot]

MMMMMM. . .

MUSHROOMS!

 

[noyd666]

i000 watter.

 

[GreenPlant]

I believe We're the Aliens
How Cute But what a Rum Bunch we Are.

 

[Juke]

If aliens exist, they do not reach earth alive.

We have the atmosphere of earth which is pure toxic for outsiders. Air contains 78.09% nitrogen, 20.95% oxygen, 0.93% argon, 0.039% carbon dioxide, and small amounts of other gases.
And we also have the atmosphere and gravity which is sure to impress.

 

[Seal-Clubber]

Another possible but far out theory is that it is part of some sort of transport device and it is behind all the things we believe that have disappeared into the Bermuda Triangle.

Bone thugs and gang warfare. When I grew up in the Los Angeles area, things would disappear faster than the Bermuda Triangle. Cars, Semi-trucks, homes, battleships, ect, leave it out overnight and it would be found propped up on jack-stands with anything valuable - jacked..

If God / Aliens want to change shit, start with low income areas. I`ve known people who were so bad, sometimes I wonder.

If aliens exist, they do not reach earth alive.

We have the atmosphere of earth which is pure toxic for outsiders.


we also have the atmosphere and gravity which is sure to impress.

hahaha...

 

[bombadil.360]

watched Close Encounters of the 3rd Kind recently, great movie from '77, directed by none other than Spielberg.

one of the great things about the movie is that they never mention anything about aliens or what is the nature of the visitors.

and of course, they communicate with them through music

awesome movie, if you have not watched it, check it out.

 

[DrFever]

just had a long distant phone call with ET he told me to tell you all hang in there were coming in full force to take over the world
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ECjO46EUp4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6Lgp6AW5gk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8H6erhp6L4U

 

[noyd666]

if there armed with banana's i'm out of here.

 

[DrFever]

Hey all have a watch found this pretty cool

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8H6erhp6L4U