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ALF and the Fat B*stard AF's..

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mossy

:wave: dizel..
thank you for the private mail regarding the AF puzzle.
I thought it was simply the 50% from the 100% cross..
but I was wrong last time..I thought I better check.. :yes:

:wave: perakko..cheers friend.
I have real good season and light..but a 40 inch Max Headroom...including pot.
AF's are ideal...
just had to work on the yield a bit to make it viable. :smoke:

Meaty..it is Ages since I have grown a bag-seed..I love them..they are like little lucky dips. :headbange

I am getting the same joy out of the new crosses..I mean..
who even knows what say an AK-47 x JEM 100% AF is gonna look like..
nobody in the World has ever grown one.

It is quite Awesome knowing that.
Fingers crossed they won't be Ugly Birds..or I will be gutted. :pointlaug

Talking of Gold everybody..
you know I have had a Chocolate coloured leaf coming through on this F5 grow..well..now I have a chocolate brown and Gold bud showing...
something else is tryin to get out..it would help if I could identify it.

Anybody heard of a canna that shows Chocolate/Gold...?


See what I mean.
Bud on the right..sort of shiney bronze..with brilliant gold self-coloured trics on the bottom of the seed calyx.
It is quite stunning.




 
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Mr Celsius

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mossy said:
Mr C..you still around m8.. :wave:
Could you do me another AF % calcultion.

Base cross to F3..ALL AF line.
@F3..
AF female..non-AF male.

What AF would the progeny be..?

Plus..if said progeny were mixed with a 100% AF sibling male..

what would the AF % be @F1.

So you're saying your F3's are 100% AF and you will be crossing those females to a non-AF male.

If the non-AF male has no autoflowering genes hidden within it, the resulting progeny will be 0% autoflowering. Autoflowering is a recessive gene, so both parents need to be carrying the gene and inbred to express it.

100% AF x 100% AF will = 100% AF

They ^ all have the same gene running through them, so when you cross them, it will express. Typical 'normal' strains have a dominate gene that controls photoperiod... so the first generation will express that dominate gene, BUT! you've now inserted that 'hidden' autoflower gene. After that, you backcross to a 100% autoflower and the results are 25% of the population being 100% autoflowering, then you inbred that generation to 'lock in' the autoflower trait. But, anytime you cross that 100% autoflower with a normal strain, the dominate gene will overcome.

Hope you had a good time in England! Was the weather getting better or still muggy?
 
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mossy

:wave: Cheers Mr C.. :yes:

Last summer..after the selective crosses..
I let a male loose for mass-pollenation.

I think I cocked-up on that male.

I could go back to f3 and fiddle..or progress.
so I hit the non-af's with the FB cross while he was on the patio.
He is 100% AF.

I thought the off-spring would be 50%...BUT..
I was wrong on my % on the ALF.
so I thought I better run it past you.

I do like my homework double checked.. :bigeye:

You are the resident AF % expert now... :smoke:

Cheers m8.

Strengthening crosses.. :chin:

AK-47 x Maz males on the left.
Absolutely spot on standard..no surprises there.

AK-47 X WR males on the right..
Fattness.
Extra muscle.
The girls seem to be following too..extra tufty.






Could be fortuitous.
 
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Mr Celsius

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You are the resident AF % expert now...

Glad to help, but I think I don't deserve the title. Experts come with experience and you by far have the miles in. But I suppose we don't need to debate that point... :D

Either way, thanks for the compliment.

I think those WR x AK47 will be cool. WR is AK47 x White Widow, so I'm guessing you're trying to breed towards the AK side?

The Auto WR is treating me well and this years outdoors is gonna be sweet to say the least!
 
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mossy

I think those WR x AK47 will be cool. WR is AK47 x White Widow, so I'm guessing you're trying to breed towards the AK side?

I am looking for an AK dom meld.
I already have pure AK and pure WR..so I am looking for a difference.

BUT... :D

I might not have the choice..because if you look at them all together.
From the left..
AK-47 X JEM..IMO..JEM dom

AK-47 X WR..IMO..AK dom

WR IBL...WR dom..ha ha.




:wave: Expertsetup..consider it done... :joint:
 
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mossy



this is what you call a Mossy Bonus.

There were no canna seeds around when the sunflowers were being sown
The only thing I can think...when we had the big storm and the tent was going in and out like lungs.
I think a couple seeds were knocked out of one of the mothers.

There were 2 seeds..1 male and her.
I am not sure what she is..although timing would sugest an ALF.

I will remove her when I transplant.
 

bpb

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hey smoke hows it going buddie?

mossy i would agree maybe it was the wind that planted it in there but non the less its a good surprise wonder which it will be

hopefully the akx jem will take the best from both
 
M

mossy

:badday: Just heard the UK has gone ahead and re-classified canna from grade C to B.

BAD NEWS DAY...

AGAINST official advice.

Man.. :confused:

back shortly.... :wave:

I am on tie down again.
I just got the WR transplanted to a large pot..and was planning on giving her a bit patio time...but now I have had to bang her in the lighted cupboard..
 
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M

mossy

:wave: sm0kateer4204...
we are used to you vanishing every now and then M8..
but it is always nice to see you when you get here... :headbange

You got anything germing..?

Hey mossy nice cannaflague you have there
Nice one Meaty m8.. :yes:

I would have left it in there..as they are minature sunflowers..and probably just the right height..
but the pot is for downstairs..so I need it out before the neighbours see it.

bpb..I am watching with baited breath to see what I get.
I love this part of the grow.
I have just put the Whore x FB cross in to germ.
I know exactly what I am looking for in this one.
I just want it in a matching AF pair.
 

WAMEN

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:chin: lol i thought i had posted in here yesterday .. ?? :confused: ??

sup FELLAZZZ?!

pleasant grow show here mossy m8.. :yes: :yes:
what can i say... my grow was partially fucked by the spider mites and i chosed not to use anything strong on the plants so i made a soap&garlic solution and sprayed frequently.
some plants were litterally raped. i harvested them... and not early luckly..
some plants are still in there .. a couple are still healthy and the rest are more or less suffering.
The plan is chop - clean - restart. I managed to plant some seedlings and the meaning was to replace these plants but i think i will use them for my outdoor as i want everything to be clean and fresh for the next indoor round.
heres the stuff
BubbleDust






Purple Bastard






TAS



at least im getting something out of it.. but hellllllll
 
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DoubleJ

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mossy said:
:badday: Just heard the UK has gone ahead and re-classified canna from grade C to B.

BAD NEWS DAY...

AGAINST official advice.

Man.. :confused:

back shortly.... :wave:

I am on tie down again.
I just got the WR transplanted to a large pot..and was planning on giving her a bit patio time...but now I have had to bang her in the lighted cupboard..

Man fuck them....

Ive just put my first ever cannabis plants (Diesel Ryders) outdoors today, blazing sunshine in the South of England. Classification can go suck a nut!
 

bpb

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dang mossy sorry to hear the bad news

but great news on your plants

hk bro nice buds hope you hit that bud for the pope lol
 

HKSkyline

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Hate hearing shit like that Mossy..
Your patio is lookin good man :yes:

BP I am rippin it right now for ya bro :rasta:

:wave: Smoka
 
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M

mossy

What a Cuffing night.... :eek:

Man..when they have bloody thunder storms over here..they really have them.
You cannot sleep through them.

Luckily..I knew by the state of the sea that there was a bad one coming..so the girls were in lock-down.
Everything is okay..for now.





On the ALF..she is an ongoing project..at this point she has 3 afghan doms in
so these are ALF#3.

I cannot keep saying maz x lr x lownranger x WR x lr...so ALF#3 it is eh...?

HK...glad you made it M8..when I saw you post in the old thread..I felt like I had deserted you.. :wave:
Nice buds m8..I have missed the Friday Night Bud Show.


DoubleJ..I am with you m8.
If you have any photos of those Diesel..I would love a look.

WAMEN M8...you have harvest in MAY....
you haven't normally even started germing yet.
Bonus m8.
I think I may have fettled the Spider in my girls..but I still have my beady eye on them.

I have heard a whisper that the spanish government might actually make medical grows legal..
Fingers Crossed eh..?
 
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