2012- The Emergence of Higher Intelligence Beings

[LowGrow]

cannabis is an alien plant as well

 

[SoloGro57]

I love the story of the Dogon and how they knew that Sirius was a Binary star before science did. They said that cannabis came from that part of the sky. Great stuff!

 

[durgamata]

There ZERO neanderthal DNA mixed w/ ours according to recent science.

Un-True. They have looked in the DNA sequence and found that Freckles, Red hair and pale skin were traits of European Neanderthal's. Where do you find little red-headed freckled pale children? In far northern europe where its very cold and direct sun-light is lacking. Exact conditions to the Ice-Age in which neanderthals thrived.

 

[LowGrow]

never heard of that

 

[SoloGro57]

I understand that Redheads also have greater density of Fast-twitch muscle, and greater tolerance to pain.

For more information on redheads, the moon and how to make love last, read Still-life with Woodpecker, by Tom Robbins.

Great fucking book!

 

[3dDream]

BBC in 2000: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/694467.stm

Modern humans do not have Neanderthal ancestors in their family tree, a new DNA study concludes.

The DNA extracted from the ribs of a Neanderthal infant buried in southern Russia 29,000 years ago was found to be too distinct from modern human DNA to be related.

"There wasn't much, if any mixture, between Neanderthals and modern humans," said William Goodwin, of the University of Glasgow, UK. "Though they co-existed, we can't find any evidence of genetic material being passed from Neanderthals to modern humans."

The new work, published in the journal Nature, contradicts recent evidence from ancient remains of a child found in Portugal, which appeared to combine Neanderthal and human features. Those researchers concluded that some interbreeding must have taken place.

discover 2008: http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/8...rely-interbred-with-us-very-different-humans/

According to John Hawks, a University of Wisconsin-Madison biologist not involved in the study, the work further dispels the idea that modern humans are closely related to Neanderthals. “Comparing the complete mitochondrial DNA genomes of a Neandertal and many recent humans presents a very different picture,” Hawks says. “Humans are all more similar to each other, than any human is to a Neandertal. And in fact the Neandertal sequence is three or more times as different, on average, from us as we are from each other” [Science News].

Spetember 2009:http://www.zeenews.com/past/2009-09-23/565667news.html

Washington: A team of researchers is probing the links between modern humans and Neanderthals.

Homo neanderthalensis nearly made it through two Ice Ages in Europe, and disappeared roughly 30,000 years ago.

Now, Richard "Ed" Green, PhD, who studies Neanderthal DNA at the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology in Leipzig, Germany joined hands with a lab team headed by Svante Pääbo, a famous Swedish scientist, for study of Neanderthal-human link.

It is believed that Neanderthals and humans first evolved separately from a common ancestor a few hundred thousand years ago.

There are many fewer genetic and physical differences between the two hominids than there are between modern humans and chimpanzees. DNA sequences that have changed in humans - but that are the same in chimps and Neanderthals - might more easily be linked to their physical or behavioural manifestations and provide clues to the most recently evolved human traits.

The first Neanderthal DNA was extracted from bone in 1997. The majority of our DNA resides on 23 pairs of chromosomes inside the nucleus of every living cell. This DNA is inherited from both parents. But initial studies of Neanderthal DNA instead focused on the small percentage of DNA that resides in compartments within cells called mitochondria. Mitochondrial DNA tracks only maternal inheritance.

The mitochondrial DNA of thousands of living humans already has been examined. The Neanderthal mitochondrial DNA examined to date is distinctly different from that of humans, Green says.

No mitochondrial DNA sequences from Neanderthals have been encountered in modern humans.

"This makes it less likely that there was some genetic interchange with Neandertals," Green says. "No one's mother was a Neandertal."

Green and colleagues have also been mapping nuclear DNA from Neanderthals. In February, Pääbo reported that the team already had mapped at least one DNA sequence to cover more than 60 percent of the entire Neanderthal genome, using DNA from the ancient bones of three different individuals.

Time:http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/time100/article/0,28804,1595326_1595329_1616144,00.html

Even after 148 years, many people still argue about whether Charles Darwin's theory on human evolution is correct. Svante Pääbo has done more than argue, conducting some of the most exacting work ever attempted on the DNA of human and nonhuman primates, including his spectacular 2006 announcement that he had decoded fragments of DNA from remains of Neanderthals. In so doing, he is replacing speculation with scientific fact.

Please show me what info you have on why this is wrong.

 

[durgamata]

It makes perfect sense, we as species are doing many things the Annu's did to make us.

We mix and splice DNA, weve grown human Ear's on Lab-Rats backs. Forced house-flys to grow eyeballs on there asses, and they can see out of those ass-eyes.

Why wouldnt an advanced civilization who could space-travel and Bio-engineer, Not space travel or Bio-Engineer?

It would not be a stretch to say Humans wouldnt do the same thing. Heck, most ideas on how to colonize Mars or the Moon is to create a Bio-producing organism that can create Oxygen, Water, and Atmospheric conditions.

 

[JWP]

Does this have anything to do with The sumarians and the annunaki?

Yes mate..

I dont think it will happen but anything is possible. Every person i know or have met believes in some form of God. If it does happen everyone will freak out for sure because no one is prepared for it. They are so trapped by their belief systems that even if they do see annunaki they still wont believe there eyes.

Why is it so hard for people to believe this may be possible? The same reason the sheeple fell for 911. Because the idiot box told them what to believe.. Seriously people still think a plane hit the pentagon though not a single person saw this happen. They were just told it happened.

Everything on this planet is designed. By God? But who is God? The annunaki?

Still im pretty confident 2012 will pass and nothing will happen..

Edit: If they do come... watch out for our women. I hear the annunaki like human women. ALOT!

You know what freaks me out more than the concept of annunaki. Us! How does the whole world support a thing like iraq. When the whole time the only country to ever use a weapon of mass destruction (twice!(nagasaki & hiroshima)) is the one pointing the finger...

Authority...

Check out the Milgram experiment ... then you realize how things like iraq & the holocaust can happen...

We are so much more scary to me than any annunaki

 

[durgamata]

Yes, having two legs, two arms, a primative brain, eyes, hair and using Tools.

That dosnt sound anything like humans.

how could i be so silly to think we were related.

rediculous if people think we dont have common genetics with neanderthal

 

[durgamata]

You guys understand there was massive drop in Modern Human population before our ancestors even left africa? Meaning that all of us came from a very small gene-pool.

This means that the person who is all our father, (genetically it has to happen, we all came from ONE-MAN and Woman eventually) had less neanderthal DNA than others, and over time, that imprint on the DNA Map was swept clean.

It took thousands and thousands of years, but I belive that is what happend, dilution of our pre-ancestral genes. Look at the diversity we have now, and we all came from Africa.

 

[3dDream]

I am not saying we don't have a common ancestor a very long time ago, it is just that we never fucked a neanderthal.

Ever heard of Homo floresiensis?

Homo floresiensis ("Flores Man"; nicknamed Hobbit) is a possible species in the genus Homo, remarkable for its small body and brain and for its survival until relatively recent times. It was named after the Indonesian island of Flores on which the remains were found.[1][2] One largely complete subfossil skeleton (named LB1, because it was the first specimen found in the Liang Bua cave) and a complete jawbone from a second individual (LB2),[3] dated at 18,000 years old, were discovered in deposits in Liang Bua Cave on Flores in 2003. Parts of seven other individuals (LB3–LB9; the most complete is LB6), all diminutive, have been recovered as well as similarly small stone tools from horizons ranging from 94,000 to 13,000 years ago.[4] Descriptions of the remains were first published in October 2004.[1][2] To date, the only complete cranium is that of LB1.

We aren't the only flavor of monkey. We are just the one that prob killed the rest. In the case of "Flores Man", the human islanders have an old story about how they wiped them out.

 

[DogBoy]

Anyone here remember John Titor?

I'll stake £5000GBP of my own money on the following. If by 11:59:59 31st Dec 2012 we have not seen a verified alien, higher intelligence etc i win and you pay me. If by that time there is proof that aliens exist, have been here or even live among us you win and i will pay you out.

Anyone care enough for their convictions to take the pepsi challenge?

 

[durgamata]

Long story short,

Homo-sapiens were a failed species, just like all other Civlizations.

We will meet our cruel end, the Human species will not survive another 2-thousand years, that I am almost guarunteed. Too many people, not enough food, too many nations at war.

 

[h^2 O]

In all honesty, i listened to the first youtube clip for about 1 minute, and realized it reminded me of the concept behind:

Being the fact that the Predators treated the people and aliens as they wish, and came and "re-arranged" them and their DNA (same concept with implanting eggs almost)

I dont even want to listen to the rest...it sounds foolish...i'm sorry...

 

[LowGrow]

thanks for explaining the gene degradation thing I just simplified it to "they kill all but the strongest and thats why are genes are whacked" look at all the different species of birds every 250,000 years or so it is known that something kills off over half of the human population from analyzing genes. They can only find 8 distinctly different genotypes in the current population of humans but for a species with as much genetic diversity as us we should have hundreds of genotypes and with that information they could extrapolate how many times our population has been halved and when it happend based on how fast genotypes mixed and the graph clearly depicted halving of the population every 250,000 years or so which means robinson carusoues storys of giants and pygmies could very well be true as well as extreamly advanced civilisations. but the weakest were killed leaving the most adapted or favored in a twisted alien gentic project however you want to percive it creating us in a homagenous form much like when you stabalize a strain of cannabis.

 

[durgamata]

Good example,

We have bred-dogs so extensivly that the phsyical traits are massivly different, and this is in less than 2 thousand years of breeding for most species.

 

[durgamata]

It may be, the Annunakis had reached a DNA-Stalemate, the genes they were passing down were getting more and more Interbred, and they started to get mutations and stagnation.

They used DNA from other beings on different planets to mix with their own, creating hybrids. Some of these first hybrids escaped and populated earth.

 

[MarquisBlack]

Redheads also have a disproportionately high occurrence of RH- negative blood types. (Rh- means the red blood cells are not coated in the Rhesus Protein, a leftover from our evolution from the ape.)

 

[Joe Hawkins]

Even the Mayans don't beleive the end of the world is 2012

http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-world-latinamerica/20091010/LT.Mexico.Apocalypse.2012_/

MEXICO CITY — Apolinario Chile Pixtun is tired of being bombarded with frantic questions about the Mayan calendar supposedly "running out" on Dec. 21, 2012. After all, it's not the end of the world.

Or is it?

Definitely not, the Mayan Indian elder insists. "I came back from England last year and, man, they had me fed up with this stuff."

It can only get worse for him. Next month Hollywood's "2012" opens in cinemas, featuring earthquakes, meteor showers and a tsunami dumping an aircraft carrier on the White House.

At Cornell University, Ann Martin, who runs the "Curious? Ask an Astronomer" Web site, says people are scared.

"It's too bad that we're getting e-mails from fourth-graders who are saying that they're too young to die," Martin said. "We had a mother of two young children who was afraid she wouldn't live to see them grow up."

Chile Pixtun, a Guatemalan, says the doomsday theories spring from Western, not Mayan ideas.

A significant time period for the Mayas does end on the date, and enthusiasts have found a series of astronomical alignments they say coincide in 2012, including one that happens roughly only once every 25,800 years.

But most archaeologists, astronomers and Maya say the only thing likely to hit Earth is a meteor shower of New Age philosophy, pop astronomy, Internet doomsday rumors and TV specials such as one on the History Channel which mixes "predictions" from Nostradamus and the Mayas and asks: "Is 2012 the year the cosmic clock finally winds down to zero days, zero hope?"

It may sound all too much like other doomsday scenarios of recent decades — the 1987 Harmonic Convergence, the Jupiter Effect or "Planet X." But this one has some grains of archaeological basis.

One of them is Monument Six.

Found at an obscure ruin in southern Mexico during highway construction in the 1960s, the stone tablet almost didn't survive; the site was largely paved over and parts of the tablet were looted.

It's unique in that the remaining parts contain the equivalent of the date 2012. The inscription describes something that is supposed to occur in 2012 involving Bolon Yokte, a mysterious Mayan god associated with both war and creation.

However — shades of Indiana Jones — erosion and a crack in the stone make the end of the passage almost illegible.

Archaeologist Guillermo Bernal of Mexico's National Autonomous University interprets the last eroded glyphs as maybe saying, "He will descend from the sky."

Spooky, perhaps, but Bernal notes there are other inscriptions at Mayan sites for dates far beyond 2012 — including one that roughly translates into the year 4772.

And anyway, Mayas in the drought-stricken Yucatan peninsula have bigger worries than 2012.

"If I went to some Mayan-speaking communities and asked people what is going to happen in 2012, they wouldn't have any idea," said Jose Huchim, a Yucatan Mayan archaeologist. "That the world is going to end? They wouldn't believe you. We have real concerns these days, like rain."

The Mayan civilization, which reached its height from 300 A.D. to 900 A.D., had a talent for astronomy

Its Long Count calendar begins in 3,114 B.C., marking time in roughly 394-year periods known as Baktuns. Thirteen was a significant, sacred number for the Mayas, and the 13th Baktun ends around Dec. 21, 2012.

"It's a special anniversary of creation," said David Stuart, a specialist in Mayan epigraphy at the University of Texas at Austin. "The Maya never said the world is going to end, they never said anything bad would happen necessarily, they're just recording this future anniversary on Monument Six."

Bernal suggests that apocalypse is "a very Western, Christian" concept projected onto the Maya, perhaps because Western myths are "exhausted."

If it were all mythology, perhaps it could be written off.

But some say the Maya knew another secret: the Earth's axis wobbles, slightly changing the alignment of the stars every year. Once every 25,800 years, the sun lines up with the center of our Milky Way galaxy on a winter solstice, the sun's lowest point in the horizon.

That will happen on Dec. 21, 2012, when the sun appears to rise in the same spot where the bright center of galaxy sets.

Another spooky coincidence?

"The question I would ask these guys is, so what?" says Phil Plait, an astronomer who runs the "Bad Astronomy" blog. He says the alignment doesn't fall precisely in 2012, and distant stars exert no force that could harm Earth.

"They're really super-duper trying to find anything astronomical they can to fit that date of 2012," Plait said.

But author John Major Jenkins says his two-decade study of Mayan ruins indicate the Maya were aware of the alignment and attached great importance to it.

"If we want to honor and respect how the Maya think about this, then we would say that the Maya viewed 2012, as all cycle endings, as a time of transformation and renewal," said Jenkins.

As the Internet gained popularity in the 1990s, so did word of the "fateful" date, and some began worrying about 2012 disasters the Mayas never dreamed of.

Author Lawrence Joseph says a peak in explosive storms on the surface of the sun could knock out North America's power grid for years, triggering food shortages, water scarcity — a collapse of civilization. Solar peaks occur about every 11 years, but Joseph says there's evidence the 2012 peak could be "a lulu."

While pressing governments to install protection for power grids, Joseph counsels readers not to "use 2012 as an excuse to not live in a healthy, responsible fashion. I mean, don't let the credit cards go up."

Another History Channel program titled "Decoding the Past: Doomsday 2012: End of Days" says a galactic alignment or magnetic disturbances could somehow trigger a "pole shift."

"The entire mantle of the earth would shift in a matter of days, perhaps hours, changing the position of the north and south poles, causing worldwide disaster," a narrator proclaims. "Earthquakes would rock every continent, massive tsunamis would inundate coastal cities. It would be the ultimate planetary catastrophe."

The idea apparently originates with a 19th century Frenchman, Charles Etienne Brasseur de Bourbourg, a priest-turned-archaeologist who got it from his study of ancient Mayan and Aztec texts.

Scientists say that, at best, the poles might change location by one degree over a million years, with no sign that it would start in 2012.

While long discredited, Brasseur de Bourbourg proves one thing: Westerners have been trying for more than a century to pin doomsday scenarios on the Maya. And while fascinated by ancient lore, advocates seldom examine more recent experiences with apocalypse predictions.

"No one who's writing in now seems to remember that the last time we thought the world was going to end, it didn't," says Martin, the astronomy webmaster. "There doesn't seem to be a lot of memory that things were fine the last time around."

Personally, I know '2012 end of world' is all a crock of shit and nothing will happen, I bet everything i have on it, My overly religious family was spouting shit about the end of the world in 2000, then when no9thing happened they bought into the 2012 theory, how the fuck does a christian all of a sudden beleive in mayan theory but remain christian ffs.

 

[LowGrow]

sorry but magnetic iron particles in the oldest sea floor bed show that the poles already have changes several times and also this falls on the 250,000 approximate year mark and it was also shown that a complete magnetic reversal only encompasses a couple years time.