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Old 04-30-2012, 07:39 PM   #46
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Wishful thinking on the part of the Coffeeshop owners and patrons. Where is this "liberal shift" you speak of? I see it not.

How many coffeeshops in Amsterdam alone have been closed over the last 10 years? Nearly half of 'em. Now they'll have a good reason to shutdown the other half, esp. if the coffeeshops ignore the new rules.

Yes, a new gov't could change things, but as you can see the DEA has the Dutch gov't over a barrel when it comes to drugs.

Funny how the Dutch actually think they can still change drug policy in the Netherlands.

They don't realize it's all done behind closed doors...just like in the US.

The Dutch public have as much ability to change their policies as Americans have to change their Federal Drug laws...

DEA makes all the rules these days, every country follows it so they can get paid off by the US DEA.

Nobody turns down DEA money except for a few South American countries like Venezuela, Ecuador, Argentina and Bolivia, who've all elected socialist governments.
hmmm i personally think your massively over estimating the DEA and there influence , were not talking about a tin pot country in south America here , this is Europe , imo the DEA have nothing to do with it at all not in the slightest , its simply an expression of the Dutch disenchantment with the far left ! see i think the majority of Dutch people don't want there country to be a destination for drugs tourists , so the country is moving more to the right , there are lots of issues that are the reason for the switch to the right ! its happening in Europe as a hole
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hmmm i personally think your massively over estimating the DEA and there influence , were not talking about a tin pot country in south America here , this is Europe , imo the DEA have nothing to do with it at all not in the slightest , its simply an expression of the Dutch disenchantment with the far left ! see i think the majority of Dutch people don't want there country to be a destination for drugs tourists , so the country is moving more to the right , there are lots of issues that are the reason for the switch to the right ! its happening in Europe as a hole
I think it is quite a bit more complicated than this. Seems there are several reasons all adding up to the new policy. One of which is the resentment of immigrants. Especially those seen to be getting rich off the drug trade eith illegal or legal.

Perfect really. We all fight against each other while the status quo remains. Almost like it was planned this way.......
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I think it is quite a bit more complicated than this. Seems there are several reasons all adding up to the new policy. One of which is the resentment of immigrants. Especially those seen to be getting rich off the drug trade eith illegal or legal.

Perfect really. We all fight against each other while the status quo remains. Almost like it was planned this way.......
that's why i said there are many reason behind it , immigration is a big factor that's true , allot of people dont agree with the neo liberal melting pot ideal , in Holland esp its a big problem
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hmmm i personally think your massively over estimating the DEA and there influence , were not talking about a tin pot country in south America here , this is Europe , imo the DEA have nothing to do with it at all not in the slightest , its simply an expression of the Dutch disenchantment with the far left ! see i think the majority of Dutch people don't want there country to be a destination for drugs tourists , so the country is moving more to the right , there are lots of issues that are the reason for the switch to the right ! its happening in Europe as a hole
Doesn't matter if it's a tin pot country or not. Every politician can be bought off, they've been doing it for 4 decades now, works in every country.

Do you think Mexico which has lost like 40,000 people to drug cartel violence would like to legalize all drugs? Of course they do! But the politicians only admit it after they leave office and once they're no longer on the DEA payroll...

Go ask Manuel Noriega how things work with the DEA and what happens to you when you don't play ball with them...
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.yeah they end up going "missing" lol more like taken outta the picture..imo
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Yes but Mexico is right next to the US, in Europe we have our own gangsters operating under the name EU....

I think that the Dutch will take this ban about as seriously as the one on smoking tobacco in bars. That is not very
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Doesn't matter if it's a tin pot country or not. Every politician can be bought off, they've been doing it for 4 decades now, works in every country.

Do you think Mexico which has lost like 40,000 people to drug cartel violence would like to legalize all drugs? Of course they do! But the politicians only admit it after they leave office and once they're no longer on the DEA payroll...

Go ask Manuel Noriega how things work with the DEA and what happens to you when you don't play ball with them...
but with all dew respect its not the same , its night and day , the DEA have no clout here in Europe , they cant influence policy in rich European country's , Europe has a hole is richer than America i think you been reading to many conspiracy theory books lol

of course America its self has certain amount of clout and influence , but the idea of the DEA dictating Dutch policy is total garbage to be honest
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End of weed for tourists in Amsterdam.

Never been but this one less reason to go.

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Fuck Amsterdam. When it's legalized in America everyone will quickly forget that country
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Just wait till you have a bunch of retarded dutch tourists all over L.A or some other shit hole< you wont be soo stoked then, ahahha
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LA shit hole ??? , its all in ones perspective ... even been to Tampa LOL

Ha! LOL Rather have dutch tourists than dude bro's everywhere lol

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its too bad..because i was really looking forward to getting stoned at the cafes and then getting a hoe at the brothel...now i guess il be smoking paki street hash and getting that same blowie at the brothel..
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hey, as long as they dont shut down the red ligh district, its all good. ive never had a problem getting bud anywhere.
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