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Male, Female, or Hermaphrodite?
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LolaGal
Example one: I don't see any balls.
Example two: My God, I never saw so many nanners on one herm!
Example two: My God, I never saw so many nanners on one herm!
If that strain was in my garden it would be tossed immediately on the spot.
MickTheBrag
Active member
we could name that strain "drag queen"
unless that name is being used by dutch passion fems already...
One thing's for certain, that is not the work of a reputable breeder. Unless of course your grow is totally hosed.
Yeah, let's perpetuate crap.
rave420
Member
Excuse me? Since when are seeds produced from hermaphrodites CRAP?
The people using CS to make their feminized seeds are all perpetuating crap?
Please clue me in on this one.
The clue is that true breeding females do not perpetuate hermaphrodites.
Just like breeding with a male and a female, if one or the other carries the hermy trait, breeding with them perpetuates this.
It makes no difference if you are collecting pollen from a male plant or a CS stressed plant, if the hermy trait is present, it can pass on to the progeny, or at least the mapping is continued and it gets carried on.
Stressing plants DOES NOT CAUSE HERMIES. But, if you have a plant with known hermie traits, by breeding with it those hermie genes are perpetuated...be it straight out breeding or by stressing a female for the male pollen.
A typical scenario would be for Joe Bloe to have 4-5 females. He decides he wants to stress one of the fems to get pollen. Thing is, he may have sister plants that all have the hermie trait waiting to show itself. One plant is stressed, and the pollen used to dust the other 4 females. Now, we have a hermie proned fem that was stressed to produce hermie prone pollen, that is now used to dust the hermie prone sisters..and viola! You have double hermie prone seeds... That would be why folks tend to see lots of hermies in fems...especially when they first became popular. There is simply a stampede to stress females, and no taking in of consideration if the plant is a true breeder and should be used or not. The very same thing as in straight up male/female breeding.
Irresponsible breeding, somewhere along the line, is why we saw the pics above in the first place.
Just like breeding with a male and a female, if one or the other carries the hermy trait, breeding with them perpetuates this.
It makes no difference if you are collecting pollen from a male plant or a CS stressed plant, if the hermy trait is present, it can pass on to the progeny, or at least the mapping is continued and it gets carried on.
Stressing plants DOES NOT CAUSE HERMIES. But, if you have a plant with known hermie traits, by breeding with it those hermie genes are perpetuated...be it straight out breeding or by stressing a female for the male pollen.
A typical scenario would be for Joe Bloe to have 4-5 females. He decides he wants to stress one of the fems to get pollen. Thing is, he may have sister plants that all have the hermie trait waiting to show itself. One plant is stressed, and the pollen used to dust the other 4 females. Now, we have a hermie proned fem that was stressed to produce hermie prone pollen, that is now used to dust the hermie prone sisters..and viola! You have double hermie prone seeds... That would be why folks tend to see lots of hermies in fems...especially when they first became popular. There is simply a stampede to stress females, and no taking in of consideration if the plant is a true breeder and should be used or not. The very same thing as in straight up male/female breeding.
Irresponsible breeding, somewhere along the line, is why we saw the pics above in the first place.
Hoosier thanks for the clearly explained post above.
Also it could just be that you hae light leaks in your flower room. Of course then chances are that multiple plants will be herm.
southpaw
Member
Does the above explanation hold for a male that starts kicking out female flowers? I.e., it is not a "true" male?
I've got one plant that clearly sexed as male, and then due to space limitations was placed outside, which in my case means it is only getting five hours of direct sunlight. I just wanted to keep it alive until it dropped some pollen. The top "cola" looks completely male, but there are one or two tiny pistils visible at the base of a few clusters of male flowers.
Sucks because it was a nice plant...
I've got one plant that clearly sexed as male, and then due to space limitations was placed outside, which in my case means it is only getting five hours of direct sunlight. I just wanted to keep it alive until it dropped some pollen. The top "cola" looks completely male, but there are one or two tiny pistils visible at the base of a few clusters of male flowers.
Sucks because it was a nice plant...
