Originally Posted by TheBioMaster
Ok, I get it, thanks for clearing that up! One minute I am nice person the next I have character flaws, and now I am a idiot. Nice skills you got there bro. Sorry I did not like your products or have even remotely a good experience, and sorry that I did not see a "Quality Product". But I am even MORE sorry that you decided to be a total prick about it and try and make it personal, just because the experience and comments are negative.
And for the record, you would not know a "Quality Product" apparently if I smacked you in the face with one!!!
Instead of taking the negative and LEARNING from it to make your product (and I use that term oh so loosely here) better, you just pretend to know more and then attack the person bringing the negative information forward. How ORIGINAL!!! LOL!!
The statements I made about bicarbonates and others are TRUE, not false no matter how many times you try and confuse the issue. All you do is reveal more of what you do not know. Maybe some very basic water chemistry and plant biology classes is in order.
And stop demanding proof moron of these BASIC FACTS that can ALL be VERY easily verified. Again you just show more ignorance on the matter.
You cant fix stupid. I was actually trying to be nice.
Post all the crap you want bro. I have no time for idiots like you. I think I am also done with this thread and this horse shit that this guy post.
Talk about twisting up peoples words....trying to reason with this cat is like trying to reason with a 3 year old, whatever you say he just reverses it and says it back. LOL!! This is the same thing that happens when you try to reason with a child. LOL!!
I have worked with many nutrient companies first hand, and what I really said was that not ALL nutrients are just salts mixed with water which is ALL your product is. Get it right fucktard!! This guy is CLUELESS!
There are nutrient companies that use very special processes to obtain the right "form" of the ingredient. They also spend THOUSANDS of dollars and YEARS of time trying to isolate a certain element or mineral in a special form. This takes MONEY and HARDWARE and TIME!! Something this guy is totally clueless about!! So it kinda bugs me when he puts this label on it and says "Just like X product but lots cheaper!" That is UTTER BULLSHIT!! Especially when I can tell that most of the ingredients came from a fucking grocery store!!
The guy behind House & Garden for example used knowledge experience he had been collecting since CHILDHOOD to formulate there new product recently released called Amino Treatment. This man over a lifetime of work was finally able to isolate a VERY special enzyme that is found in seeds. The process and method used to obtain this took YEARS to develop. This is just ONE example, there are MANY MANY more examples I could list.
Nutrient companies do not buy shit like grape juice concentrate and put it in the formula they sell you!! You seem to not even be able to grasp a understanding of the "Derived From" section of a product label.
Do not even get me started on the Cal/Mag BS again......
If you want to be a amateur and sell some salts at a good deal, no problem there!!
BUT STOP CLAIMING ALL THIS BS YOU ARE CLAIMING WHEN YOU CLEARLY DO NOT EVEN UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS IT TAKES TO MAKE THE NUTRIENT IN THE FIRST FUCKING PLACE!!
What you have demonstrated with your attacks on me and others who had issues; was that you have ZERO decency or respect or KNOWLEDGE for making nutrients AT ALL!
Buying salts and mixing your own nutrients is a good thing and more people should take the time and learn about how to do this.
You don't even make this difficult for me.
High pH - Hard Water Hydroponics
by Jon J. My well water has a pH of 8.2. I have tried lowering the pH so I can use it for hydroponics, but it bounces back (less than 24 hours). In reading, it seems that would be caused by hard water. The million dollar question is how do I correct my waters pH. Jon
(Prescott Valley, AZ)
Answer: Jon- the main culprit for hard water is Calcium Carbonate. In small amounts, the pH of the water will only need a small adjustment. The ideal pH of the water you start with would be 7.0. After adding hydroponic nutrients and additives, the ideal pH of the solution should be around 5.9-6.2.
Having Calcium Carbonate in your water will cause more of a problem than just having your pH out of whack. Calcium Carbonate will register on your TDS or EC meter, and the more Calcium Carbonate in the water, the less room there will be for your nutrients. On top of this, the pH down that you add to correct the problem also increases the TDS/EC of the solution (leaving even less room for your nutrients). Finally, plants tend to uptake the Calcium Carbonate before they will uptake other forms of Calcium which are more usable to the plants. If you grow in water with high levels of Calcium Carbonate, there is a very good chance your plants will exhibit a Calcium deficiency (or other nutrient deficiency).
There you go Biomaster, your all power carbonates which you hail as the cornerstone of quality products, is simply hard water which most people buy water filtering machines to remove
. It is not an effective ph stabilizer nor is it an effective calcium source for plants to absorb.
You are trying to round up a battle cry to get people to stand up and agree with you with your crusade against me, but you stand on almost nothing. You buy this "Secret Enzyme" $100/bottle BS that only cannabis nutrient companies will be foolish enough to try to sell you, if you look at the real agriculture world, outside of cannabis, no one buys this shit or would even try to pull it on commercial farmers. A real touching story about how an H&G owner works his entire life since childhood to isolate a selected enzyme that is so amazing! Did you know that H&G basically stole a lot of formulas from Canna and they had employee(s) defect from Canna to create this company. So the way I understand, some employees just defected from Canna to copy formulas and create their own company based on the same concept of Hydroponic Nutrients. Not groundbreaking or interesting.
Also, did you know magnesium sulfate, b vitamins, amino acids, and other ingredients can be bought "in a fucking grocery store?" This really makes your argument silly, as well as other things like dextrose, glucose, blackstrap molasses, plant extracts, brewers yeasts, can all be "bought in fucking stores" and Advanced Nutrients uses them as ingredients, as well as other nutrient companies.
Enjoy your calcium carbonate grows BioMaster, I bet you get some fat budzzzz.
Originally Posted by Ganja baba
hi guys i recently purchase a box of this for £6.20
its N.P.K ratio is 12.5-25-25 when watered down 4 times it gives you
N.P.K of 3.1-6.2-6.2 and it contains all the macros more or less the same as ionic canna and other nutes , this feed has every thing but calcium in it , all the chelates are the same and in the same order
i think it water down to about 6000lt of nutes
not tried it yet but used to mix my own salts and going to give it a go soon
Hi Ganja baba. I followed that link above, and I can't find any label information or details about that, so I can't comment on what kind of quality it is. Could you take a picture or scan of the label with ingredients and analysis, and I can tell you if it is good or not. Also, what is your application, indoor (hydroponic) or outdoor (soil) growing? Will be able to answer once I get some more information.