Martial Law in the uk? If no deal brexit

944s2 · Jan 27, 2019

So just when you think it can’t get any worse

: lol,,,
We are reading today that if we crash out the EU without a deal then they are getting ready to implement Martial Law so the Army and curfews and all that shit in case of “ civil disobedience “ because of food
Shortages and medicine shortages,,,,
That just about takes the biscuit :biggrin:

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Is anyone buying this latest news ?,,,,s2 :tiphat:

Illuminate · Jan 27, 2019

Sucks you guys cant bear arms with all that government tyrany.

f-e · Jan 27, 2019

They just want the public at large to ask for another vote. They can't do it, because as much as they cry no confidence, nobody is going to be the new PM that stops us leaving. We are not to recognise our votes are just to make us feel we have a say. It's the people that must call for another vote. What seems to escape them is the fact the people want to leave. It's them that want to stay, but can't be seen to do anything about it. Or we will know they're not public servants.

f-e · Jan 27, 2019

If Europe was what it's meant to be, there would be a deal on the table. It feels more like the governments are having a cold war.

Europe "I will buy your stuff, but I want to pay money, and make you do some tricks"
UK "fuck that, I will find somebody that just wants to pay"

Hermanthegerman · Jan 27, 2019

Just saw it on Spiegel-Online. It shall be around 3500 soldiers as a special reserve. I think every country would do that, for a special case of emergency. Nothing Special.

944s2 · Jan 27, 2019

Hermanthegerman said:
Just saw it on Spiegel-Online. It shall be around 3500 soldiers as a special reserve. I think every country would do that, for a special case of emergency. Nothing Special.

That’s good then Herman,
I was imagining Tanks along Knightsbridge and curfews stopping us from seeing a gig in July at the Royal Albert Hall :biggrin:

Fuck brexit ,I don’t wanna miss the gig which is Joy Division Ochestrated with Peter Hook,full band ,,orchestra,,and guests
,, sold out already I believe ,, s2

White Beard · Jan 28, 2019

Illuminate said:
Sucks you guys cant bear arms with all that government tyrany.

‘Sokay: if that permanent Republican majority comes to pass, we won’t have arms *here*, either...and being white won’t save you

White Beard · Jan 28, 2019

f-e said:
If Europe was what it's meant to be, there would be a deal on the table. It feels more like the governments are having a cold war.

Europe "I will buy your stuff, but I want to pay money, and make you do some tricks"
UK "fuck that, I will find somebody that just wants to pay"

UK started with the fuck-you, now they want most-favored-nation status for leaving?

Yeah...*that’s* gonna work. Say hello to higher prices due to shipping and duties, once y’all “escape” the eeeville clutches of Europe. Hey, maybe y’all could move your islands to the South Seas! There’s plenty of room down there....

gaiusmarius · Jan 28, 2019

pure fear mongering imo.

the eurocrats are shitting their pants, they know that the day after the UK leaves without a deal and absolutely fuck all bad happens, there will be a stampede for the gates by other euro states and that will be the end of the eurocrat tyranny by unelected sponging technocrat fat cats.

Teddybrae · Jan 28, 2019

For some reason ... and forgive me if I seem irreverent ... or even irrelevant ... but I 'm in a writing mood ... and the Scenario proposed here has put me in mind of the English King who had the brilliant idea of giving out Licenses to his mates to hunt the Kings deer in the Forest.

His Mates were not lawyers and they thought licenses "... gave them license" to do what they wanted. So just like blokes out for a good time will ... they hunted and caroused and beat up the locals and raped their Wives etc.

Well they played up so much that the Foresters got shitty and lo and behold the era of the Highwayman began! No one could leave London without an escort of Redcoats.

(Hmm. Maybe this post IS relevant ...)

TychoMonolyth · Jan 28, 2019

Who would have guessed the UK would be governed by a bureaucracy of Dutch and Belgian scribes and functionaries that is answerable neither to the ludicrous European Parliament in Strasbourg, the ultimate irrelevant talking shop, nor to the principal member states, and is exacting its revenge for centuries of deference to France, Germany and Britain.

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/conrad-black-americas-resurgence-is-reshaping-the-world

944s2 · Jan 28, 2019

White Beard said:
UK started with the fuck-you, now they want most-favored-nation status for leaving?

Yeah...*that’s* gonna work. Say hello to higher prices due to shipping and duties, once y’all “escape” the eeeville clutches of Europe. Hey, maybe y’all could move your islands to the South Seas! There’s plenty of room down there....

Nice contribution Einstein,,,

gaiusmarius · Jan 28, 2019

what people forget is every one of the supply chains in to the UK is run by people who make money doing it, they will be preparing as we speak to make sure they keep making money. same goes for the export chains, they will still want to sell and other nations will have people who want to buy, everything else is illogical. do you think German car makers will want to stop selling cars in the UK for example? even the banking center of London city is in no danger, it will be even stronger as it will be a free agent from eu regs and taxes.

also Britain will be able to make it's own trade deals with anyone in the world. the eu will try to make it hard for Britain, but in the end business will prevail. the British import and export market is too attractive to cut it off when push comes to shove.

of course the un elected eurocrats are fighting tooth and nail, they know that a successful Brexit, spells the end of their dreams of an EU empire, run by unelected technocrats for the benefit of multinational corporations, rather then, for the actual human citizens. they will do all they can, to make Britain pay, but in the end money talks and trade will flow, even if prices go up short term, money will be saved on other EU taxes and subsidies. once the dust settles, Britain will be fully sovereign again and in the end, they will be better off.

944s2 · Jan 28, 2019

Nice one Gauis,,
Accurate,,articulate,,and spot on ,,,
It makes me angry that the press and certain members of the EU are already saying they are
certain there will be violence,, no matter what and how everyone should be most fearful of the Right in all this,,, like Anglo-Saxons need an excuse to fight lol,, see the Millwall v Everton FA cup football match saturday,,
Amazing!
They even have crystal balls in Brussels lol,,,,s2

xavier7995 · Jan 28, 2019

It is pretty fascinating to watch. What leverage is the UK trying to use to get these favored trade deals? They do not appear to be coming to the table from a position of strength. The voters voted to tell the EU to fuck off, so why should the eu conceed anything to them? Sorta like if your gf dumps you, then says you need to keep paying rent and do the dishes, nah....imma do me as the saying goes. The EUs responsibilities are for the member countries, if you opt out of being a member then you become the competition.

944s2 · Jan 28, 2019

Xavier,,,
After everything I come to the conclusion that the elite in the UK and EU are just playing a
huge game and laughing at the rest of us,,
I really believe they are having fun,,s2

White Beard · Jan 28, 2019

TL;DR == “I don’t like you, I don’t want to be here, I’m leaving: help me get my stuff into my new apartment, okay, and I’ll be back regularly for booty calls...”

944s2 said:
Xavier,,,
After everything I come to the conclusion that the elite in the UK and EU are just playing a huge game and laughing at the rest of us,,
I really believe they are having fun,,s2

They may well be: the wealthy have FAR MORE in common with each other than mere skin-color or nationality....

gaiusmarius · Jan 28, 2019

thats the thing, imo, at this time the eu technocrats are just acting in their own best interests. they have to make Brexit as difficult and scary as they can. it's literally a matter of life and death for the project of centrally ruling the European Union's nation states, by far away, un answerable, unknown, unelected, technocrats.

they have to make it seem like it will be a huge disaster for the UK. they were getting a nice chunk of money from the UK yearly. many EU nations are taking more then they pay. hence the net contributors to the EU project, are an essential part of keeping the EU alive. if only one more net contributor leaves, they will have to fundamentally restructure their spending, they will have to down size their masses of eurocrats, for the first time in the history of the EU project, the defacto EU "government" institutions, will actually have to get smaller.

imo, most of the negative prognosis spouted in the msm, is part of the informational war being waged on the anti EU crowd. like i say, the eurocrats see it, rightly, as an existential matter for their future power as an unelected group of 1 percenter's, ruling over 26 nation states. how else will they get paid six figures, fo fly around first class and make regulations to benefit their wealthy elite mates and lobbyists at the expense of your average citizen.

the only way to know what will really happen is to wait and see. but even if there are some problems, they will be solved and when things settle, the UK will be better and stronger for it. getting your full sovereignty back as a nation state, is well worth a few months or a year even, of some difficulties.

xavier7995 · Jan 28, 2019

Well i hope it pans out for you guys. Guess waiting and watching is all anyone can do.

Chevy cHaze · Jan 28, 2019

Gaius is right, markets will regulate themselves across import duties and borders for the sake of making money. But that's really the only thing we can be sure of in my opinion.
And the only "real" problem with Brexit I see is that some idiot thought a simple majority (>50%) to decide on a major issue like this would suffice.
By design this is asking for a 49% vs. 51% scenario. Pretty much exactly what happened in the end. Yes, there is a majortity on paper, but in reality and everyday life it's half the voters were for it and half the voters were against it. This is a recipe for civil unrest or worse and it will not be before many years until the scale tips in one's favor. It's really 50/50.

And let's not be foolish regarding the timeline: Despite the fact most profitable industries in the UK have long been owned by foreign corporations, the UK could in the end be better off without the EU, but let's not kid ourselves, this lies so far in the future, none of us here today is likely to witness it. And only if the UK plays every card right during that time and May &Co. are already today failing badly at it.

I live in the UK, I'm not from the UK and see with horror what's happening in London and Brussels and whatever it is, S2 is 100% righ it's in no ones interest and not helping the average man one tiny bit.

But rest assured, those in power will earn more riches from Brexit.
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