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How many times do ya have to be told...dont use fed ex!
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FedEx sucks, used the regular mail many times and never a problem
here we go again.
Don't feel like typing it all out for the 50th time but here's the abbreviated version. It starts with shipping at all is dumb, but if you have to:
USPS= no. dumb as fuck.
UPS/FedEx= via ground only. Anything else is dumb and will eventually get caught.
Ask anyone in cali who has been shipping bulk for years and this is generally the response you will get.
Don't feel like typing it all out for the 50th time but here's the abbreviated version. It starts with shipping at all is dumb, but if you have to:
USPS= no. dumb as fuck.
UPS/FedEx= via ground only. Anything else is dumb and will eventually get caught.
Ask anyone in cali who has been shipping bulk for years and this is generally the response you will get.
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lvclosetgrower
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USPS = Dumb
UPS = Even dumber
FedEX = The dumbest
shipping product is just stupid period only the desperate fucks do it. If you want it come get it.
UPS = Even dumber
FedEX = The dumbest
shipping product is just stupid period only the desperate fucks do it. If you want it come get it.
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Postal mail. The mail that you send through the U.S. Postal Service is protected by the Fourth Amendment, and police have to get a warrant to open it in most cases.
If you’re using the U.S. Postal Service, send your package using First Class mail or above. Postal inspectors don’t need a search warrant to open discount (media) rate mail because it isn’t supposed to be used for personal correspondence.
Keep in mind that although you have privacy in the contents of your mail and packages, you don’t have any privacy in the "to" and "from" addresses printed on them. That means the police can ask the post office to report the name and address of every person you send mail to or receive mail from — this is called a "mail cover" — without getting a warrant. Mail covers are a low-tech form of "traffic analysis," which we’ll discuss in the section dealing with electronic surveillance.
You don’t have any privacy in what you write on a postcard, either. By not putting your correspondence in an envelope, you’ve knowingly exposed it, and the government can read it without a warrant.
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1. What are Postal Inspectors?
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2. What are the responsibilities of the Postal Inspection Service?
The Postal Inspection Service is responsible for protecting postal employees and the mails; enforcing postal laws; plant and personnel security; conducting various internal audits within the Postal Service; and conducting criminal investigations and presenting evidence to U.S. Attorneys and other prosecutors on these investigations.
3. What authority do Postal Inspectors have under the law?
As sworn federal law enforcement agents, Postal Inspectors have the power to serve warrants and subpoenas issued under the authority of the United States; make arrests without warrant for postal-related offenses committed in their presence; make arrests without warrants for postal-related felonies cognizable under the laws of the United States, if they have reasonable grounds to believe that the person arrested has committed or is committing such a felony; carry firearms, and make seizures of property as provided by law.
4. Can Postal Inspectors open mail if they feel it may contain something illegal?
First-Class letters and parcels are protected against search and seizure under the Fourth Amendment to the Constitution, and, as such, cannot be opened without a search warrant. If there is probable cause to believe the contents of a First-Class letter or parcel violate federal law, Postal Inspectors can obtain a search warrant to open the mailpiece. Other classes of mail do not contain private correspondence, and therefore may be opened without a warrant.
5. Why do Postal Inspectors frequently conduct joint investigations with other agencies?
Overlapping jurisdiction often requires collaboration with other federal, state and local authorities. Postal Inspectors have developed close working relationships with other agencies that facilitate such cooperation.
6. Do Postal Inspectors get involved in investigations unrelated to mail or the Postal Service?
On rare occasions Postal Inspectors are asked by the U.S. Department of Justice or a U.S. Attorney to assist in an investigation that does not involve the use of the mails. But typically investigations will relate to the Postal Service or the U.S. Mail in some way. For example, securities or insurance fraud may involve sending false statements or claims through the mail. Child molesters may be producing child pornography and distributing it via the U.S. Mail. These types of crimes violate statutes that are within the jurisdiction of the Postal Inspection Service.
7. Who is in charge of the Postal Inspection Service?
The Chief Postal Inspector heads the Postal Inspection Service, acts as security officer and defense coordinator for the Postal Service, and maintains liaison with other investigative and law enforcement agencies of the Government.
8. Who appoints the Chief Postal Inspector?
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9. Who does the Chief Postal Inspector report to?
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Postal mail. The mail that you send through the U.S. Postal Service is protected by the Fourth Amendment, and police have to get a warrant to open it in most cases.
If you’re using the U.S. Postal Service, send your package using First Class mail or above. Postal inspectors don’t need a search warrant to open discount (media) rate mail because it isn’t supposed to be used for personal correspondence.
Keep in mind that although you have privacy in the contents of your mail and packages, you don’t have any privacy in the "to" and "from" addresses printed on them. That means the police can ask the post office to report the name and address of every person you send mail to or receive mail from — this is called a "mail cover" — without getting a warrant. Mail covers are a low-tech form of "traffic analysis," which we’ll discuss in the section dealing with electronic surveillance.
You don’t have any privacy in what you write on a postcard, either. By not putting your correspondence in an envelope, you’ve knowingly exposed it, and the government can read it without a warrant.
https://postalinspectors.uspis.gov/contactUs/faq.aspx
Skip Navigation LinksHome > Contact Us > Frequently Asked Questions
Frequently Asked Questions
1. What are Postal Inspectors?
Postal Inspectors are federal law enforcement agents responsible for enforcing more than 200 federal statutes that deal with the United States Postal Service and the U.S. Mail.
2. What are the responsibilities of the Postal Inspection Service?
The Postal Inspection Service is responsible for protecting postal employees and the mails; enforcing postal laws; plant and personnel security; conducting various internal audits within the Postal Service; and conducting criminal investigations and presenting evidence to U.S. Attorneys and other prosecutors on these investigations.
3. What authority do Postal Inspectors have under the law?
As sworn federal law enforcement agents, Postal Inspectors have the power to serve warrants and subpoenas issued under the authority of the United States; make arrests without warrant for postal-related offenses committed in their presence; make arrests without warrants for postal-related felonies cognizable under the laws of the United States, if they have reasonable grounds to believe that the person arrested has committed or is committing such a felony; carry firearms, and make seizures of property as provided by law.
4. Can Postal Inspectors open mail if they feel it may contain something illegal?
First-Class letters and parcels are protected against search and seizure under the Fourth Amendment to the Constitution, and, as such, cannot be opened without a search warrant. If there is probable cause to believe the contents of a First-Class letter or parcel violate federal law, Postal Inspectors can obtain a search warrant to open the mailpiece. Other classes of mail do not contain private correspondence, and therefore may be opened without a warrant.
5. Why do Postal Inspectors frequently conduct joint investigations with other agencies?
Overlapping jurisdiction often requires collaboration with other federal, state and local authorities. Postal Inspectors have developed close working relationships with other agencies that facilitate such cooperation.
6. Do Postal Inspectors get involved in investigations unrelated to mail or the Postal Service?
On rare occasions Postal Inspectors are asked by the U.S. Department of Justice or a U.S. Attorney to assist in an investigation that does not involve the use of the mails. But typically investigations will relate to the Postal Service or the U.S. Mail in some way. For example, securities or insurance fraud may involve sending false statements or claims through the mail. Child molesters may be producing child pornography and distributing it via the U.S. Mail. These types of crimes violate statutes that are within the jurisdiction of the Postal Inspection Service.
7. Who is in charge of the Postal Inspection Service?
The Chief Postal Inspector heads the Postal Inspection Service, acts as security officer and defense coordinator for the Postal Service, and maintains liaison with other investigative and law enforcement agencies of the Government.
8. Who appoints the Chief Postal Inspector?
The Postmaster General of the United States.
9. Who does the Chief Postal Inspector report to?
The Chief Postal Inspector reports to the Postmaster General of the United States.
Click here for additional FAQs.
Dirty Harry
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Customs have card blanch to open anything. Postal and private shippers often times have LEO dogs around the processing area. They allow that in good will.
Some of the shippers use their own screening program, even though not required by law they choose to, and can willingly pass information to LEO. They pass it to customs, and they can open anything.
I have only did this 1x and I was very paranoid since then I have never done it again. not worth the risk. I will however mail seeds USPS.
CUSTOMS is international. I am referring to inter-state commerce only
the patriot act i believe gives customs carte blanche over USPS mail that passes the US border but not internally
in the states they cant bring dogs into a us postal center and just drug sniff packages but private carriers can do whatever they like
fed ex was shown on TV on the discovery channel opening suspicious packages (without reasonable cause) because fed ex allows them to do out of a major hub
private carrier nullifies any rights to privacy
customs is a whole other ballgame
do you have any idea how easy it is to get said search warrant? Literally one phone call.
Just as with most LEO bullshit, just because there is a rule in the way doesn't mean it won't happen.
That's like saying cop's cant lie because they aren't allowed to
Again, ask someone who sends multiple pounds a week (or used to) from Cali>East Coast and I doubt you will find one who used USPS. People in the know have their methods for bulk, and that method is via Ground with a private carrier.
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longearedfriend
did you guys ever notice
between the E and the X there is an arrow ?
with probable cause first
this means you have to fuck up packaging
fed ex lets Leo legally open packages without even the need for probable cause
how you equate that to being safer cause of paranoia of dirty police is beyond me
before "Cali" and "Pounds" it was "Fill in the blank" and "Kilos"
guess you'd have to be in the know for some time to remember those days
you aren't understanding this. They don't need anything. They can say they smelt something when they didn't. USPS has a LEO division dedicated solely to intercepting drugs and if they have any reason to believe there are drugs in there, regardless of the reason, they will get a warrant.
Look up the statistics on how many daily packages are sent via ground through FedEx or ups. Now do the same for USPS. That's the first reason.
Second, 9 times out of 10 when FedEx independently finds a package with drugs in it (almost always when sent via overnight) they just throw it away.
who gives a fuck what happened decades ago lol. Times have changed bro.
I could care less what you personally do. But don't come on here and tell people it's safe to send weight via USPS unless you have years of experience with sending bulk across the country.
btw
you have to stop projecting your mindset on others
if you grow and do so illegally you start to project that every one else bends the rules
well that is contrary to logic
people who become military, cops or those who fall in line tend to thrive on rules especially their own
if you ever lawyer up you might find those rights are sued to your advantage
don't let your lifestyle dictate how you paint everyone else
know yourself
know your enemy
get a few decades under your belt and you may come to the same conclusions
you have to stop projecting your mindset on others
if you grow and do so illegally you start to project that every one else bends the rules
well that is contrary to logic
people who become military, cops or those who fall in line tend to thrive on rules especially their own
if you ever lawyer up you might find those rights are sued to your advantage
don't let your lifestyle dictate how you paint everyone else
know yourself
know your enemy
get a few decades under your belt and you may come to the same conclusions
So your saying take the chance and then fight it in court if you get caught?
When the judge calls the postal inspector in and says "did you actually smell weed coming from that package" and he says "yes your honor", the end.
when it comes to shipping contraband, decades under your belt means nothing. It's all about having inside info, and RECENT experience.
Keep shipping usps im sure you'll be fine. but hey if your busted no worries you can just drop like 20k on a lawyer and hope you come out clean.
btw to those interested, (and for research purposes only, of course nobody here would ever ship anything illegal right?) UPS recently started requiring ID to ship any package, so keep that in mind.
When the judge calls the postal inspector in and says "did you actually smell weed coming from that package" and he says "yes your honor", the end.
when it comes to shipping contraband, decades under your belt means nothing. It's all about having inside info, and RECENT experience.
Keep shipping usps im sure you'll be fine. but hey if your busted no worries you can just drop like 20k on a lawyer and hope you come out clean.
btw to those interested, (and for research purposes only, of course nobody here would ever ship anything illegal right?) UPS recently started requiring ID to ship any package, so keep that in mind.
