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Old 04-29-2018, 02:41 PM #81
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I would like to see those pictures too.. because that would go against everything I've learned in plant physiology. are you really sure the fluid wasn't coming from a part of the ring around the hollow space? because the xylem would be somewhere around there, so it wouldn't be strange to see some fluid coming from there.
but it would be really strange if fluid was flowing within the hollow middle of the stem. I don't even know if it's physically possible, since the larger diameter tube you have, the harder it becomes to get the water to go up.

I don't think it flows through as such. I think it accumulates in the stem, providing buffer storage and is depleted at some points, and accumulated at others.
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I don't think you're just making shit up, I can't think of a reason why you would.
but I do find it very unlikely that the hollow stem would be filled with fluid. never seen it myself(have seen hollow stems, but not with fluid), and I see no reason why it would be there. it also doesn't fit with other plants with hollow stems, which are all filled with air(as far as I know).
and if all those hollow stems were filled with fluid, it would also make all those hollow branches pretty heavy.

so nothing against you, but such a claim just goes against everything I know, and we're on the internet, so I'll be skeptical unless I see a picture.
I really don't want to imply anything about you personally, it's just that in my time on the internet I've learned to never trust anyone on their word alone.

I'm thinking possibly you did see fluid coming out, but it was actually coming out of the solid part of the stem(from the xylem), and you thought it was coming from the hole?
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With a hole in the stem of 1/4” diameter, how could such watery fluid cap the end withought falling down the stem if it’s hollow? Maybe I am seeing a cap that covers the end and the rest is hollow. Maybe the void serves a different purpose.
Anyway, all I’m certain of is that hollow stems are a genetic trait is expressed more in some plants than others. As I say, I grew the same cut every way for years and it never ever did a hollow stem. Others always do them whatever you do.
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I am now seeing why this thread has lasted so long....... The caliber of posters is minimal.....

Everybody seriously taking advice from a tent grower, over jidoka? Over me? Check out my IG account, @HazyBulldogFarms. Then pull up Spaventa's tent grows. Then ask Jidoka how many plants he is growing / consulting for? Ask who is doing this for a living, who is using labs for data to make these comments.

Clear as day. No matter what rookies like Spaventa say, it's about Ca and B. Period.

Carry on though, maybe one day you guys will figure it out. I think.
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I'm thinking possibly you did see fluid coming out, but it was actually coming out of the solid part of the stem(from the xylem), and you thought it was coming from the hole?
Another hint here......... And yes, he believes the fluid was coming from the hole..... Hence why he thinks it's like a straw...... Clueless.
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Equally, Cannabis is bioengineered just like the bird, to have hollow, tubular support structures, in ideal conditions. The trait is more evident in some genetics than others.Strains that evolved in windy, dry, nutrient depleted places would be the least likely to exhibit hollow stems I would guess
Hollow stems don't make your plants idiot proof and your free to blame your feeding and environment errors on them if you wish, I care not.
And this is why most discussions go nowhere. This isn't politics, why make it personal?

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I am now seeing why this thread has lasted so long....... The caliber of posters is minimal.....
So what makes your opinion so special? Are you a biologist?

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Clear as day. No matter what rookies like Spaventa say, it's about Ca and B. Period.
Just because you say something is so doesn't make it fact. Maybe you should re-read the thread for a more thorough understanding of the subject instead of just assuming you know it all.

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So what makes your opinion so special? Are you a biologist?

Just because you say something is so doesn't make it fact. Maybe you should re-read the thread for a more thorough understanding of the subject instead of just assuming you know it all.


So lab testing doesn't count for anything? Tissue testing? Sap testing? Hundreds of samples of thousands of plants? Working with world renown agronomist? Did you even care to look at my IG page?

Please, go ahead and post up something from the thread I am missing........ I am sure it will be a real zinger. So far it's been a lot of "hallow stems act like straws......" Basic plant physiology means nothing in this thread......
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My biggest takeaway from this thread is a bunch of people who grow marijuana never took plant biology 101.
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