Info on The Real Seed Company?

Hempy McNoodle · Mar 5, 2020

Or, Kerala?

ngakpa · Mar 6, 2020

Ready4 said:
Hello, any Mazar seeds coming back into stock soon ? Thank You

Yes, May-ish

We should also have the Mazari landrace back direct from Afghanistan soon too

ngakpa · Mar 6, 2020

Hempy McNoodle said:
Or, Kerala?

Yes, 2015 accession repro is due before the end of this month

Plus a new 2019 harvest accession direct from Idukki is due before May

marmarb · Mar 9, 2020

About to place my first order have a few questions is the friesland and crosses the only ones that will finish mid September I'm a 40° n east coast. Also with the auto flowering tendencies will they stay in veg long enough to be able to take clones from. Thanks

troutman · Mar 9, 2020

marmarb said:
About to place my first order have a few questions is the friesland and crosses the only ones that will finish mid September I'm a 40° n east coast. Also with the auto flowering tendencies will they stay in veg long enough to be able to take clones from. Thanks

The Friesland should finish mid-September. I don't think it's an autoflowering strain to be honest.

ngakpa · Mar 10, 2020

hi - yes, as said - it's not an auto

I list it in with autos because it's very early

Can't say exactly when it will go into a flower at 40 N, but early

Lebanese, Sinai, Syrian etc. are also listed in the Autoflowering category - in their case because they exhibit variants within their populations that will go into flower even in long days

People are calling this trait "semi-auto" - e.g. going into flower even on 20/4

romanoweed · Mar 10, 2020

Is there a semi-Auto from SE Asia and Middleamerica too? Is this Trait appering cause of extreme Dryness ( just a Specualtion)?

troutman · Mar 10, 2020

ngakpa said:
hi - yes, as said - it's not a true Auto

I list it in with autos because it's very early

Can't say exactly when it will go into a flower at 40 N, but early

Lebanese, Sinai, Syrian etc. are also listed in the Autoflowering category - in their case because they exhibit variants within their populations that will go into flower even in long days

People are calling this trait "semi-auto" - e.g. going into flower at less than 20/4

Mine started flowering flowered in the 3rd week of July at 46N and there was only about 15+ hours of sunlight then according to a website I just checked. :tiphat:

marmarb · Mar 10, 2020

do we have a discount code for icmaggers

ngakpa · Mar 10, 2020

troutman said:
Mine started flowering flowered in the 3rd week of July at 46N and there was only about 15+ hours of sunlight then according to a website I just checked.

I've updated the description to state explicitly that it's not autoflowering, just very early

ngakpa · Mar 10, 2020

marmarb said:
do we have a discount code for icmaggers

hi, everything's essentially already at a discount

most of our landraces are already about half to a third of the price that other outfits sell them for... plus 2 for 1 offers on several strains now, plus freebies

some of the heirlooms like Friesland, X18, and Cindy 99 are an absolute bargain too

hellfire · Mar 10, 2020

ngakpa said:
Yes, 2015 accession repro is due before the end of this month

Plus a new 2019 harvest accession direct from Idukki is due before May

Is this the variety known as Idukki Gold?

willydread · Mar 10, 2020

Any info/pic about johaar?

marmarb · Mar 11, 2020

I was just on the site the cindy is showing out of stock. Your right prices are great but I'm a bean hoarder so every little be goes a long way lol.

ngakpa · Mar 11, 2020

hellfire said:
Is this the variety known as Idukki Gold?

it's the Idukki landrace, direct from an old-timer in Idukki district

he's been organizing commercial grows there for decades - in recent years collaborating with tribal minorites

in Kerala, tribal minorities are legally allowed to keep a plant (or two) for use in ritual worship of a form of Munishveran
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muneeswarar

"Gold" can get slapped on any strain as a name - I don't think people should be putting so much weight on this.... a lot of nonsense gets talked about Indian cannabis

in fact, the most common colour term I heard from people who were in Kerala long before the days of the Internet, back in the early 80s and 90s, was "blue"

what a lot of people use to talk about was Neelachadayan (Neela - blue; chada or jata = dreadlocks)

hellfire · Mar 11, 2020

Cool! Great info there. Can this Idukki be traced back to a certain date or just known its been there a long time?

Interesting about the blue, seems that is not a very common color in cannabis. Understandable, I have some Arraku seeds and one is Arraku Valley the other Arraku Gold. I'm guessing the 'gold' addition is a label for marketing?

ngakpa · Mar 11, 2020

There's been cultivation of ganja in India since at least the 1600s

By ganja I mean specifically the types of plants used for smoking like tobacco or with tobacco - what Lamarck called Cannabis indica (NOT what modern jargon calls an Indica)

Lamarck applied the name to a plant collected in what's now Tamil Nadu, probably Pondicherry... east from Kerala on the other coast

There was likely bhang cultivation in these regions long before ganja cultivation --- ganja is a result of more intensive selection for potency... in my view it likely developed from bhang plants....

I'd really caution people to be extremely skeptical about all these strain names, especially in India - as skeptical or more so as you would be about flavour-of-the-month strain names in North America

Terroir and phenotypic plasticity are major factors in determining the end product in ganja... the same strain planted in a different place (soil, sun, climate) can result in a markedly different end product

I know from talking directly to some of the IG collectors that they will readily treat different batches of ganja, e.g. from within Kerala, as different strains, when as likely as not it's merely the same landrace grown by a different farmer in a different place

Phenotypic plasticity is a key trait of Cannabis - same genes + different environments can mean lots of variation, same as with other aromatic crops like tea, hops, and grapes (wine)

ngakpa · Mar 11, 2020

willydread said:
Any info/pic about johaar?

there are photos with the strain description at the site

morphologically it's like the strain sold as Kumaoni

it's a variation on that theme, but found to the east in a region called Munsiyari
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munsiari

this relates to the previous post, in that, in this case I took the view that the plants and charas in Munsiyari are sufficiently distinct from those in the Bageshwar region to justify treating them as a distinct landrace (as with Nanda Devi too)

part of that is to do with the geography of the area - large distances and huge mountains effectively isolate the populations, and unlike with ganja cultivation in prohibition-era southern India, there's no need for people to move seed around

ngakpa · Mar 11, 2020

marmarb said:
I was just on the site the cindy is showing out of stock. Your right prices are great but I'm a bean hoarder so every little be goes a long way lol.

Cindy 99 will be back around May

troutman · Mar 11, 2020

ngakpa said:
I've updated the description to state explicitly that it's not autoflowering, just very early

Still more editing to do. It's still showing 56°N instead of 46°N under some pics. :biggrin:

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