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av8or's PPK - First Grow

delta9nxs

No Jive Productions
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did you say "spaceship"?
 

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McKush

Éirinn go Brách
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Awesome, brother! I did ten years asar as a chinook and kingair 200 pilot. First five was enlisted doing flight operations stuff, second five up front. Fractured a vertebrae in some far off place and now I'm back in the beautiful Pacific Northwest! Things happen for a reason. I have a fellow aviator for a roommate so we get to fly whenever we want. I'm only messing with light sport aircraft now. My turbine days are behind me. My goal is to have a secluded property with a greenhouse and airstrip on it. The FAA may have grounded me but I love being in the sky. Nothing beats watching the first morning sun hit the snowy eastern slopes of Mt. Hood up at 10,000 feet!

Asar eh? Bet u got some stories to tell. I do too....

Good on ya av8tor.

H.B.
 

av8or

Member
you honey dicking us?

a fully reflective geodesic dome that you (or someone) decided to build outside..... wtf man this is getting crazy.

I'm just going to go drill some holes in the side of a 3.5 gallon bucket then.

Haha! Makes you wonder what the limits really are.
 

av8or

Member
yeah no shit eh.... especially the veg pics in post #226 (and how some of the plants have been trained)

figured grow partner(s) had some input too but......


you deserve full credit Av8or for running a tight game. New-to-recirc-hydro-grower after grower are doing really well right off the bat with the PPK but you're obviously doing everything you can to have success.

a word of advice might be to go through one flower cycle before you expand your garden. There's someimportantthingsthat influence quality that take place during that process but either way nice job man!

I definitely had some great tips and seen some amazing gardens locally from my friends.

The plant training I was testing out (ref. post #226) came from reading about fimming and topping and all sorts of collaborative techniques of training to direct you plants according to your intentions. I am not sure of forum etiquette on this one, but the training I gravitate towards came from Nugbuckets on another forum. They called it mainlining but its just topping semetrically to maintain an even canopy of multiple, equal-size colas. I understood the concept from reading but wanted to see how it worked in real life. Which leads me to my next point...

You're absolutely right. I need to experience harvest for a minute before moving forward. I''ve set myself up for success despite the mo fraggin bugs, so I hope to be harvesting regularly soon.

Thanks for the kind words, brother. I'm just taking complete advantage of a rare opportunity in time to do something like this.

As always, the real credit belongs to all you who post constantly and honestly. Learning through all your transcribed experience has obviously affected the outcome of my grow.
 

Rotel

Member
you honey dicking us?

a fully reflective geodesic dome that you (or someone) decided to build outside..... wtf man this is getting crazy.

I'm just going to go drill some holes in the side of a 3.5 gallon bucket then.

Lol @ honey dicking.

Sounds like a skit for a jackass movie involving viagra, male nudity, a beehive and a bear on rohypnol gets tossed in as a surprise.
 

delta9nxs

No Jive Productions
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you honey dicking us?

a fully reflective geodesic dome that you (or someone) decided to build outside..... wtf man this is getting crazy.

I'm just going to go drill some holes in the side of a 3.5 gallon bucket then.

it's actually inside. i am building them in industrial spaces for my personal use. totally sealed with almost every surface, including floors and grow containers, covered in reflectix.

you're looking at one frequency icosahedron with five of the 20 facets removed for the floor.

leaving 15 facets all reflecting back to center.

thread soon!
 

delta9nxs

No Jive Productions
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av8or, looking at your last set of pics i think you still have broad mites.

since you have stated that you are not critically dependent on this for income you might consider clearing all plant matter out of the place and nuking it.

spray everything with something and heat treat the room before starting again.

i think this will save you a lot of grief in the future.

develop a quarantine protocol for incoming plants or start from seed. let no one in the room.

i have watched folks go through 8-9 months of repeated crop failures because of recurring mites. torture!
 
it's actually inside. i am building them in industrial spaces for my personal use. totally sealed with almost every surface, including floors and grow containers, covered in reflectix.

you're looking at one frequency icosahedron with five of the 20 facets removed for the floor.

leaving 15 facets all reflecting back to center.

thread soon!

That is really awesome. I think it was KeefTreez who made a parabolic tunnel scrog, that likely contributed to his efficiency a bunch. Can't wait to hear what you think of your dome like approach.
 

Snook

Still Learning
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it's actually inside. i am building them in industrial spaces for my personal use. totally sealed with almost every surface, including floors and grow containers, covered in reflectix.

you're looking at one frequency icosahedron with five of the 20 facets removed for the floor.

leaving 15 facets all reflecting back to center.

thread soon!

no jive?
 

av8or

Member
av8or, looking at your last set of pics i think you still have broad mites.

since you have stated that you are not critically dependent on this for income you might consider clearing all plant matter out of the place and nuking it.

spray everything with something and heat treat the room before starting again.

i think this will save you a lot of grief in the future.

develop a quarantine protocol for incoming plants or start from seed. let no one in the room.

i have watched folks go through 8-9 months of repeated crop failures because of recurring mites. torture!

This is the one time I hope you're wrong! Damn. For my reference, what are you seeing in the pics that indicate mites? The girls have been killin it the last week and look healthier than they have in a month.

I am going to tear everything down in September anyway, so I might just do battle with those bastard mites for a few more months instead of starting over right now. I'm enjoying the perpetual grow for the constant learning process, but I'm reaching the end of this r&d phase and want to start completely fresh with a larger operation.
 

delta9nxs

No Jive Productions
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have found super cropping to be preferred over topping in the long run because it affects the plant differently.

If started early enough (and as your visualization muscles get more and more used to plant growth), supErcropping is very powerful.

Growth post -flip is different so it's good to see before designing new space.another consideration is drying and curing and you might find it advantageous to use heat and humidity (and possibly realestate) from the grow rooms for this.




Geode is was the most intelligent sounding thing I could come up with, even though I have no idea what I'm talking about :)

The floor looked like outdoor concrete but just guessing. Be cool if there was a whole bunch of small plants stacked upon each other in there with some vertical bare bulbs :whistling: .......

it's geodesic. the icosahedron is the base shape for most domes. i have the floor in reflectix now too. soon!
 

delta9nxs

No Jive Productions
Veteran
the last pic on post #226. maybe it's just paranoia and the plant is just a little too wet at the bottom. or the mites could be dead and that is just residual damage.

the leaves are a little tubed, which to me indicates something is not just right. i've seen leaves do that under intense broad mite pressure.

the other plants look pretty good though.

in view of your intention to tear down anyway you could wait and see. you are getting a shitpile of experience in a hurry here!
 

av8or

Member
have found super cropping to be preferred over topping in the long run because it affects the plant differently.

If started early enough (and as your visualization muscles get more and more used to plant growth), supErcropping is very powerful.

Growth post -flip is different so it's good to see before designing new space.another consideration is drying and curing and you might find it advantageous to use heat and humidity (and possibly realestate) from the grow room for this

I haven't tried any supercropping aside from the occasional branch that's running tall. I hear what you're saying, but I haven't experimented with it yet. I'm trying to fill as large a volume of space as I can in my flower room and the topping made sense to me. The extra veg time is a non-issue so if supercropping superior for that reason, then I'm not too concerned. I try to make the plant as semetrical as possible to grow as evenly as it can. I'm all ears, though. If there's a better way, then I'll change what I'm doing with immediate effect.
 

av8or

Member
the last pic on post #226. maybe it's just paranoia and the plant is just a little too wet at the bottom. or the mites could be dead and that is just residual damage.

the leaves are a little tubed, which to me indicates something is not just right. i've seen leaves do that under intense broad mite pressure.

the other plants look pretty good though.

in view of your intention to tear down anyway you could wait and see. you are getting a shitpile of experience in a hurry here!

Ah ok. Thanks for pointing that out. they're getting better every day so I hope its just recovery from all the recent calamity. I'm going to spray as if I'm infested anyway.

As frustrating as these bugs and other issues have been, as least it's all happening sooner than later so I can learn to prevent it later. I'm wondering if moving to a different part of the state will preclude the typical bugs from bothering my girls.
 

av8or

Member
Rotation Day. Put another J1 into flower. She's my tallest veg plant yet at 41". Her twin stretched 18" so I'm anticipating plenty of head room.

Did someone say supercropping? Here's my first shot at it. We'll see how it goes.

D9, any thoughts on this close up? Mites?
 

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