Fulvic Acid

[Jabapc]

who likes it who doesn't?
Aquashield was the first supplement I added once I was happy with my nutes, I used it when I had a problem with Pythium and never had it again.
Diamond Nectar was the second supplement I tried and seems I was able to use less nutes to reach the same goal.
I used G.H. nutes for years but am now switching to Jacks 5-12-26 and Cal Nit.
my question really is does anyone use Fulvic with Jacks.
Heres a few articles I read when I decided to start using Fulvics.

http://www.hydroponics.com/howtoinfo/hydroponics articles/gold_fulvic.html

http://www.bioag.com/biomagic.html

http://www.omicahealth.com/fulvicAcid2.htm

http://www.igrowhydro.com/InfoSheets/InfoSheet-FulvicAcid.pdf

http://www.life-enthusiast.com/enzyme/fulvic_acid.htm

http://www.hhydro.com/faq.php?q_id=17

 

[pinecone]

I use the naturally occurring fulvic and humic acides.

Pine

 

[Nondual]

BioAg makes the best fulvic acid product hands down.

my question really is does anyone use Fulvic with Jacks.

Never used it with Jacks but am sure it would add something. Great as a foliar.

Replace the Diamond Nectar with BioAg's product. If you get a bottle you'll see the color is amazing compared to Diamond Nectar. I visited BioAg some years back and had a nice talk with Dr. Faust. The guy knows his shit.

 

[YosemiteSam]

The true advantage of fulvic is that it will chelate metals...particularly micros and heavy metals. This is definitely a most tremendous benefit if your micros are not chelated.

The micros in Jack's are synthetically chelated with edta. That means they are already in a balanced molecular form...the fulvic will not strip off the edta (and you would not want edta running around in your root zone even if fulvic could strip it...it would literally pull metals out of your plant at that point).

You will spend quite a bit on it and not see any noticeable benefit.

If you were using organics or non chelated micros then yea...fantastic product. Not so much with Jack's though.

 

[dizzlekush]

The true advantage of fulvic is that it will chelate metals...particularly micros and heavy metals. This is definitely a most tremendous benefit if your micros are not chelated.

The micros in Jack's are synthetically chelated with edta. That means they are already in a balanced molecular form...the fulvic will not strip off the edta (and you would not want edta running around in your root zone even if fulvic could strip it...it would literally pull metals out of your plant at that point).

You will spend quite a bit on it and not see any noticeable benefit.

If you were using organics or non chelated micros then yea...fantastic product. Not so much with Jack's though.

Sam my understanding is different. Please correct me if im wrong.

Fulvic acid has particluar use in chelating cations, including Mg Ca and K which are not normally chelated by any form of amino acid be them organic like glycine or synthetic like EDTA, mainly because they are more readily absorbed by plants than micronutrient cations. you would want your K, Mg and particularly Ca pre-chelated in nutrient solution before applying to rhizosphere since accumulated EDTA in rhizosphere will bond with (and not release) Ca or when applying to Coconut pith since coconut pith tends to absorb Ca and Mg. EDTA is readily degraded by bacteria in the rhizosphere though so EDTA accumulation should not be too heavily frowned upon. Also fulvic acids are readily absorbed by roots, unlike EDTA or humics, where it serves further (not well understood by me) benefits to the plant, including chelating cation buildup in leaf tissue that can impede certain enzyme activity, which has also been documented with EDDHA.

So fulvic acid could still have benefits even when applied with synthetic micronutrients. Again correct me if im wrong. Humic/Fulvic acids are admittedly an area i know little about.

 

[YosemiteSam]

You could be right. And it actually makes sense. I know Ca edta is a big molecule that cannot be taken up by the plant. Also amino chelates are readily eaten by microbes so they don't all make it into the plant either.

I am just gonna say I stand corrected on this one. Thanks DK.

 

[grapeman]

your plants will benefit from light use of fulvic/humic applications if and only if, all other factors are balanced.

Otherwise, you will never see the slight benefits.

 

[mg75]

we use it as an organic ph down.