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Old 11-19-2018, 02:59 AM #1
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Northern California Organic Outdoor - Blueberry Syrup, California Sunset etc.

Prepping for next year. This is going to be a fun and colorful grow.

6 x 200 gallon Geopots

Strains from seed:

2 - Blueberry Syrup
2 - Cookies and Cream x Million Dollar Baby GDP
2 - Sunset Sherbet x Million Dollar Baby x GDP

Gonna germinate seeds around February which should be enough time to sex.

Still not sure what im going to do with soil... I'll take recommendations

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Old 11-19-2018, 04:20 AM #2
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Sounds like a tasty grow. for soil, everyone has their own way, but fox farms ocean forest has worked for me. I wait until the spring time change to plant seeds because I run 6 autos outdoor from fall time change thru spring's change. Good luck. Can't wait for the pix.
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Old 11-19-2018, 04:55 AM #3
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Sounds like a tasty grow. for soil, everyone has their own way, but fox farms ocean forest has worked for me. I wait until the spring time change to plant seeds because I run 6 autos outdoor from fall time change thru spring's change. Good luck. Can't wait for the pix.
Thanks i want to run organic soil with some top dressing and foliar feeding.
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Old 11-20-2018, 03:57 AM #4
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Anyone have good luck using Coots Mix?
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Old 11-20-2018, 07:11 AM #5
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Coots works well, but he highly emphasizes that it needs a high quality worm casting/compost input. It needs strong microbiology to get those slow release inputs available.

Personally I have been using Ph-Patrols, rich as fart mix recently. He also recommends high quality compost input. I like this mix a lot, I have used Coots, and I have used Tom Hills mix, and many many other creations.

Really there are a large handful of nice soil mix's laying around here waiting to be tried out. Could choose one that you can get the ingredients some what locally and easily, and also that fits your budget. Splurge on the castings/compost.

I would emphasize, using good compost in it also. Good microbiology from the start and the rest is downhill.

Bagged soil, is not bad for a percent of a mix. I would not go straight bagged though, you will end up needing to feed tons and the microbiology will poor. Also there is randomness in the big bagged soil companies. There batch's are typically uniform but you never know really.

Sounds like a nice seed line up, and 100 gallon pots will be killer. February is very early to pop seeds. Even in 1,000 gallon pots, I think February is to early. Mid/Late March should be plenty early enough if you are on the northern hemisphere.

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Old 11-20-2018, 09:50 PM #6
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Coots works well, but he highly emphasizes that it needs a high quality worm casting/compost input. It needs strong microbiology to get those slow release inputs available.

Personally I have been using Ph-Patrols, rich as fart mix recently. He also recommends high quality compost input. I like this mix a lot, I have used Coots, and I have used Tom Hills mix, and many many other creations.

Really there are a large handful of nice soil mix's laying around here waiting to be tried out. Could choose one that you can get the ingredients some what locally and easily, and also that fits your budget. Splurge on the castings/compost.

I would emphasize, using good compost in it also. Good microbiology from the start and the rest is downhill.

Bagged soil, is not bad for a percent of a mix. I would not go straight bagged though, you will end up needing to feed tons and the microbiology will poor. Also there is randomness in the big bagged soil companies. There batch's are typically uniform but you never know really.

Sounds like a nice seed line up, and 100 gallon pots will be killer. February is very early to pop seeds. Even in 1,000 gallon pots, I think February is to early. Mid/Late March should be plenty early enough if you are on the northern hemisphere.

GL and HF,
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Thanks so much for all of the info. I appreciate it
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Why only 100 gallons?
You can have a dope soil mix for around 100 a yard. Go bigger. 200 gal is the minimum for an outdoor plant on the west coast. More like 300 for a big plant that doesn't need to be fed every day
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Old 11-24-2018, 09:20 PM #8
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Why only 100 gallons?
You can have a dope soil mix for around 100 a yard. Go bigger. 200 gal is the minimum for an outdoor plant on the west coast. More like 300 for a big plant that doesn't need to be fed every day
I've got a 20 x 30 space and I'd like to keep them at a manageable size. 100's will get me a decent sized tree
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Why only 100 gallons?
You can have a dope soil mix for around 100 a yard. Go bigger. 200 gal is the minimum for an outdoor plant on the west coast. More like 300 for a big plant that doesn't need to be fed every day
I've got a 20 x 30 space and I'd like to keep them at a manageable size. 100's will get me a decent sized tree
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I have 8' x 3' x 15" raised beds which hold about a yard (200 gal) of soil each. Great size for gardening and being able to reach the center easily to harvest carrots for example. Could also be filled up sea of green style. I may continue using them and it'll become a challenge of how large or rootbound a plant can go. For full season outdoor plants I would go bigger, 200-300 gal. When you look at the scale of cannabis plants (1 oz under a cfl or 10 lbs in the sun from one plant), it's almost like you can treat the 100 gallon as a veg cube that you stack onto the next larger size. Planting lettuce or tomatoes is one thing, you amend the soil in between each planting and rotate crops. But when a cannabis tree extends several feet in all directions from the soil container it may need watering several times per day in the summer heat. You can do the math or reason it any way you want with yourself but more soil = larger plants which is just about always going to be worth it. You went to the trouble and expense of putting everything else together, might as well add 100 gallons at that point. It's the easiest up-sale or the safest bet. Adding soil should not affect your overall budget that much and it guarantees they will not dry out as fast and yield more to a certain point. The small beds (1 yard each) can be used for tomatoes or something else. I'm not sure if I will try the fabric round pots like most people use or boxes using fence boards or plywood with panda film on the inside. The fabric pots look beautiful and efficient when they are perfectly spaced out but I still like the idea of shared root space instead of containers and using the soil more intensively. Put into perspective, instead of 2 x 100 gal pots some drip systems will use 100 x 2 gallon pots. But here we are talking about 2-5 lbs per clone instead of 20 clones per lb. The professionals have worked out the best practices I believe which are going to be different outdoor vs greenhouse vs indoor. If your space is unlimited then you want the most from each plant which will give you the largest return on investment. If your space is limited then you more or less want to fill the space with as many small plants as possible to maximize yield and return on investment for your space. If your limiting resource is is money but you have unlimited seed you could just plant more, but even then there is a fair argument to be made for building a 300 gallon pot/mound for each plant.

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