A few questions for a Soon-To-Be Grower.

[FromHolland]

Dude, the average yield per plant with 12/12 is 3oz per plant. You get 4 oz per plant with a long veg period.

You told him to veg for 7 weeks, lets say the flower period takes 9 weeks. Totally it would take 16 weeks to finish, the yield would be 16oz.

With 12/12 you'll get around 3oz per plant. You start with 12/12 which will take lets say 8/9 weeks. The yield would be 3 * 6 oz which is 18oz.

You start with an another round and with the same time as the long veg method you will get around 36oz.

It cant be clearer than this. Even if it would be 2 oz within the same time he would yield more. So in this case long veg is a waste of time, you're letting your yield go.

 

[Crooked8]

None of those plants you showed had 3oz a piece and the "average" you speak of is with veg time lol youre so inexperienced its not even funny. And yeah i proudly get 4 per on 9. Thats two pounds per light. Cant be done without veg. Not even half the herb would be there in the end.

 

[Crooked8]

I cant do this anymore. Its like arguing with a disabled person. Best of luck to the op and anyone else who tries to explain to fromholland why his method is absurd.

 

[FromHolland]

Seriously why do you even reply twice? Why not in one post.

Yeah just go away because you have failed not only with growing but also with simple plain basic math. 2/3oz is the average yield per plant with 12/12 those are facts, if you cant believe the fact you have been wasting energy it's your problem. All you have shown me is that a long veg is a waste of time. You're so full of lies, every time you seem to dodge anything by making a no-sense comment, you do that because you know a long veg method isn't that effective compared to a 12/12 method.

 

[Ichabod Crane]

So in 8-9 weeks you get 3 ounces. So two runs per plant space is 6 ounces and 16-18 weeks. I get twice that in the same time. Your numbers were posted after mine, case closed.

Like I said your way is better with a high plant count. The original poster does not have that.

 

[FromHolland]

So in 8-9 weeks you get 3 ounces. So two runs per plant space is 6 ounces and 16-18 weeks. I get twice that in the same time. Your numbers were posted after mine, case closed.

Like I said your way is better with a high plant count. The original poster does not have that.

Dude, the average yield per plant with 12/12 is 3oz per plant.

Do I have to say more? The average is 3OZ per plant.

 

[HighDesertAz]

post #61 says average yield 12/12 is 3oz

post #64 says average yield 12/12 is 2/3oz....

just sayin

 

[Crooked8]

Seriously why do you even reply twice? Why not in one post.

Yeah just go away because you have failed not only with growing but also with simple plain basic math. 2/3oz is the average yield per plant with 12/12 those are facts, if you cant believe the fact you have been wasting energy it's your problem. All you have shown me is that a long veg is a waste of time. You're so full of lies, every time you seem to dodge anything by making a no-sense comment, you do that because you know a long veg method isn't that effective compared to a 12/12 method.

Just go away? Haha i sure will. No need to stay and watch everyone agree with me and disagree with you. Its going to keep happening without me here bc your method is terrible. Flip a clone with no veg and show me 3 oz from it.... Wont happen. I dont care what link you post. Strain doesn't even matter in this example. If people didnt need to veg they wouldnt. This is hilarious. Lol why do you reply twice? Wtf are you even asking me that for? Why dont you just keep editing your first post? How unconventional is your whole life hahaha? Im so full of lies hahaha waa waaa. Youre just mad bc nobody agrees with you and they ALL so far agree people need veg time to be successful with low numbers. Again, you are a clown. Good day sir. Ill watch and laugh from the sidelines from here on out.

 

[Ichabod Crane]

Like I said 3 ounces per plant in 8-9 weeks. So 6 ounces in the same time one of my long veg plants put out 12-14 ounces on average.

So in the time I can put out 4-5 pounds you put out 2.25 pounds. Sounds like your way is not good with a low plant count. Just like every other poster stated except you.

 

[HighDesertAz]

Ok, just have to say again, with a good sativa, or heavy sativa hybrid you can do more than 3 oz.

But those generally go 90+ days, so overall time would be on par with vegging

 

[FromHolland]

Just go away? Haha i sure will. No need to stay and watch everyone agree with me and disagree with you. Its going to keep happening without me here bc your method is terrible. Flip a clone with no veg and show me 3 oz from it.... Wont happen. I dont care what link you post. Strain doesn't even matter in this example. If people didnt need to veg they wouldnt. This is hilarious.

lol I did the math for you as it isnt your strongest part. Yeah sure laugh all you want. No one said something about clones, now you just started them just to change the subject. You know you're wrong, and as for your so called "supporters" they never have tried the 12/12 method so they parrot what the rest says. Yeah I was so impressed when I saw your buds and compared them to the 12/12, I was so impressed how small they are even if you vegged them for a long period.

 

[FromHolland]

Like I said 3 ounces per plant in 8-9 weeks. So 6 ounces in the same time one of my long veg plants put out 12-14 ounces on average.

So in the time I can put out 4-5 pounds you put out 2.25 pounds. Sounds like your way is not good with a low plant count. Just like every other poster stated except you.

Seriously what are you even talking about?

I said he can get 3oz per plant (which is the average). If he uses all of the six he gets 3 * 6 = 18oz within 8/9 weeks. Your entire harvest takes like what? 15/18 weeks? He can pull out two harvests in that period which will be 18*2=36oz.

Even if you would be able to pull 5oz per plant with that vegging time you would pull 5*6=30oz. He would have 6oz more.

 

[Ichabod Crane]

I am not here to support c8. I am here for the original poster.

You still have not challenged the numbers I posted.

 

[Ichabod Crane]

Seriously what are you even talking about?

I said he can get 3oz per plant (which is the average). If he uses all of the six he gets 3 * 6 = 18oz within 8/9 weeks. Your entire harvest takes like what? 15/18 weeks? He can pull out two harvests in that period which will be 18*2=36oz.

Even if you would be able to pull 5oz per plant with that vegging time you would pull 5*6=30oz. He would have 6oz more.

Since you can not read I will post it again for you.

Two of your runs is 16-18 weeks and you get 36 ounces from 12 plants.

One of my runs is 64-80 ounces with one run of six plants. By my numbers and what you posted I get twice what you get while maintaining the six plant count.

 

[HighDesertAz]

Ichabod's first post in this thread mentions a mom...

And remember, you are the one who says starting from seed is better for med patients because you know exactly what your getting. Any grower worth squat knows strains have phenotypes and two different phenotypes from a single strain can be so different from each other you would think they were two seperate strains.

Also as stated before, clones give you the exact same thing everytime and that is important for med patients, and really any stoner.

 

[Ichabod Crane]

Why don't you post your plants new Holland? I suspect that you are praising someone else's grow that you have not done successfully yourself.

I agree with c8 and monsoon. But I would use one of the plants going into flower as the mother. Just root it before you flower.

My first post says root your plant then flower it. The mother gets flowered and is not maintained. It is around just long enough to root a cut from that's all.

 

[Shcrews]

FromHolland is either a teenager or a troll.

For what its worth i have used the "12/12 method" (round here we call it Sea Of Green), along with almost every other method of growing weed.


OP your best bet is to do some reading on here and decide what specifics you want for your grow. 6 indoor plants can yield anywhere from 1ounce to 20pounds, it depends on a lot of things. Read the advice given here and then do your own research. ICmag is a wealth of info that will enrich your life.

How much weed do you want/need to harvest every month/year or whatever?? Your answer to that will help us determine what method will work best.

 

[HighDesertAz]

Whoops, I interpreted that differently Ichabod.

 

[WifiSeedsPlz]

He may be giving his advise but he is attacking every one else's opinion. And he still refuses to post any of his own grow.

His way may work but no one here is allowed to disagree with him with out him belittling them.

This.

That shit's getting out of hand. Lol. No offense or anything, but holland boy has been making some very uninformative posts so far >.< I don't think I have seen many 12/12 from seed grows where each plant yielded a QP.There must be something I am missing :/ Shit, I thought it was hard to yield a QP per plant indoors even with a very very short veg time. Unless you are awesome which in the OP's case he will be a beginner so it isn't very probable unless he is very well informed, knowledgable, and anal as fuck.

 

[dank.frank]

Thank you Shcrews...

He's made a point that no one else has addressed in 6 pages...the OP does NOT state how much medicine he needs to maintain his needs...

THAT is the biggest factor in determining methodology.

We are all making the assumption that OP wants to grow as much weed as humanly possible with those 6 plants...

Maybe, his needs could be met by not keeping mothers and flowering out 6 fem'ed seeds from 12/12...every couple of months...in which case, maybe all he needs is a 400w in a 2' x 2' box...so those 6-9oz would suit his needs.

On the other hand, maybe OP is looking to make extracts and concentrates and wants to have excess at his disposal for playing around without the fear of running out - in which case, he should consider looking at growing some larger indoor trees and utilizing proper training and pruning techniques under 1k's...

But either way - this pissing match is pointless. It's not that 12/12 doesn't work or is inferior - and it's not that vegging plants out doesn't work and is inferior. Anyone that thinks a successful garden and top shelf cannabis can't be produced from countless different methods has just closed their mind and become stubborn and set in their ways - which is also fine...because if something works for you and your needs are being met - it quickly becomes a "if it isn't broke then don't fix it" type of scenario...

This thread really just needs to find the brakes - until the OP - gives some feed back and provides a bit more information so we can all provide them with better information that will actually be relevant to what they are trying to achieve in their garden...

Let's all smoke a bowl - and take a break....and wait for OP to either let this thread die because what he needs to know has been answered 15 times already - or ask more questions based on what has already been said...



dank.Frank