The Search for Trip Weed
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Greetings,
Thanks Onefinity, and everyone else viewing and reputationing.
I did not think I was going to update the indoor this week, but I'm saw some changes this morning. The weather around here this time of year gets interesting. While the high temperatures still flirt with the 100 degree mark, the mornings are getting quite cool. There are commonly 50 degree temperature swings, and occasionally 60 degree swings where I live. So it can easily be 45 degrees on the morning, and still reach 95 degrees in the afternoons. I am one of the few Americans that does not have air conditioning, so I open up all my windows at night to get my house as cool as possible, then close it up in the morning to preserve the cooler temperature as long as I can.
In addition to conditions explained in the weather report above, I have been flushing the pots heavily that the flowering plants are in every week for the last few weeks. These factors, in combination with the maturity of the Oaxacan plant are allowing me to finally see some fading of the green color of her, and on some of the older calyxes I'm seeing some violet/purple (mauve?) color. She should be ready soon! This is nearly the same color of my 3 or 4 year old favorite cutting, SAGE. So now of course, if the Oaxacan is more potent than the SAGE I want to cross it to SAGE. I like to reward genetics that have been in my collection for extended periods, even if they will get replaced by a more potent breed. Since ever other person in the universe seems to want to cross two extremely different strains, I want to cross strains with similarities, and SAGE was once rumored to have a highland Mexican, Purple Zacatecas, in its heritage.
The GN x NHz x MM is still surviving the extremely low level of nutrients and flushing designed to:
1.) Prevent the Oaxacan from being over fertilized and reducing potency.
2.) Flush away any one nutrient that may be building up that could cause a harsh taste in the smoke of the Oaxacan.
Due to this, it has been a rugged grow for the GN x NHz x MM since it looks like it needs more nutrients than the Oaxacan. At times it has looked like it would simply die from not enough nitrogen. It is not only surviving, but it is still pushing out fresh pistils at a slow and constant rate without and sign of subsiding. It is going to be a long haul before that leaves my flowering cabinet.
I have a Jamaican that has been on deck for quite a while. Despite the fact that I have been pinching tops on it for weeks, it has overgrown its initial pot that the seed got planted in. I had to transplant into my normal size flowering pot. It is going to be out of control big by the time that the GN x NHz x MM gets done. This may be O.K. since it will be by itself due to the recently relearned lesson that it is hard to take care of two plants in the same growing system that have big genetic differences.
Hope everyone is having as much fun as I am,
ThaiBliss
Thanks Onefinity, and everyone else viewing and reputationing.
I did not think I was going to update the indoor this week, but I'm saw some changes this morning. The weather around here this time of year gets interesting. While the high temperatures still flirt with the 100 degree mark, the mornings are getting quite cool. There are commonly 50 degree temperature swings, and occasionally 60 degree swings where I live. So it can easily be 45 degrees on the morning, and still reach 95 degrees in the afternoons. I am one of the few Americans that does not have air conditioning, so I open up all my windows at night to get my house as cool as possible, then close it up in the morning to preserve the cooler temperature as long as I can.
In addition to conditions explained in the weather report above, I have been flushing the pots heavily that the flowering plants are in every week for the last few weeks. These factors, in combination with the maturity of the Oaxacan plant are allowing me to finally see some fading of the green color of her, and on some of the older calyxes I'm seeing some violet/purple (mauve?) color. She should be ready soon! This is nearly the same color of my 3 or 4 year old favorite cutting, SAGE. So now of course, if the Oaxacan is more potent than the SAGE I want to cross it to SAGE. I like to reward genetics that have been in my collection for extended periods, even if they will get replaced by a more potent breed. Since ever other person in the universe seems to want to cross two extremely different strains, I want to cross strains with similarities, and SAGE was once rumored to have a highland Mexican, Purple Zacatecas, in its heritage.
The GN x NHz x MM is still surviving the extremely low level of nutrients and flushing designed to:
1.) Prevent the Oaxacan from being over fertilized and reducing potency.
2.) Flush away any one nutrient that may be building up that could cause a harsh taste in the smoke of the Oaxacan.
Due to this, it has been a rugged grow for the GN x NHz x MM since it looks like it needs more nutrients than the Oaxacan. At times it has looked like it would simply die from not enough nitrogen. It is not only surviving, but it is still pushing out fresh pistils at a slow and constant rate without and sign of subsiding. It is going to be a long haul before that leaves my flowering cabinet.
I have a Jamaican that has been on deck for quite a while. Despite the fact that I have been pinching tops on it for weeks, it has overgrown its initial pot that the seed got planted in. I had to transplant into my normal size flowering pot. It is going to be out of control big by the time that the GN x NHz x MM gets done. This may be O.K. since it will be by itself due to the recently relearned lesson that it is hard to take care of two plants in the same growing system that have big genetic differences.
Hope everyone is having as much fun as I am,
ThaiBliss
Greetings again,
I can't sleep, work stresses and such, so I'll post again about the outdoor Nepalese plants. I forgot how pungent those Bangi Hazes get when nearly ripe. Gadzooks! The skinny leaf yellow pheno has had the most subtle aromas during the vegetative growth stage, but now is by far the most pungent. It is perfume sweet, sweet, sickly sweet, sour, and spice. Did I mention how sweet it is smelling? I'm starting to worry that my neighbors will smell it, and it is in the middle of 10 acres. That is how strong it is.
The bad news is that it is raining a bit, and is supposed to rain tomorrow. Then it will be back near 100 degrees temperature this weekend. This is really mixed good and bad news.
I have been hoping it stays dry for just a few more weeks until most of them are ripe, but there are many fires here, including one bearing down on my home, uncontained, in very steep and rugged terrain, and is now only six miles away as the crow flies in an area with very few roads to help fire fighters create a line of containment. Hoping for cool, dry, calm winds until my plants finish, then lots of rain to put out all the fires. I know it is crazy to wish for dry weather at this point. Last year my house was 1 mile from homes that were on standby for evacuation, and now again the very next year I am only 4 miles from where people are on standby for evacuations. This drought and climate change are a bummer!
There was a recent fire tragedy for a local town named Weed. No joke, the town is named Weed. Another nearby town has a motto and a big sign across the main street that reads "It's the climate". The name of the town is from a pioneer with the last name of Weed, but our southwest corner of the state of Oregon is well known for the production of Cannabis, as well as for the hot dry summer weather.
No joke about the tragedy though. More than 100 homes burned completely down, and 100 homes damaged. No one died or seriously hurt. Very lucky for that part. A significant portion of the small town of Weed is destroyed. That specific fire is now contained, but I feel bad hoping for just a bit more of dry weather until my outdoor crop finishes.
I should try and get back to sleep for awhile before work. Life has been interesting lately.
All the Best,
ThaiBliss
I can't sleep, work stresses and such, so I'll post again about the outdoor Nepalese plants. I forgot how pungent those Bangi Hazes get when nearly ripe. Gadzooks! The skinny leaf yellow pheno has had the most subtle aromas during the vegetative growth stage, but now is by far the most pungent. It is perfume sweet, sweet, sickly sweet, sour, and spice. Did I mention how sweet it is smelling? I'm starting to worry that my neighbors will smell it, and it is in the middle of 10 acres. That is how strong it is.
The bad news is that it is raining a bit, and is supposed to rain tomorrow. Then it will be back near 100 degrees temperature this weekend. This is really mixed good and bad news.
I have been hoping it stays dry for just a few more weeks until most of them are ripe, but there are many fires here, including one bearing down on my home, uncontained, in very steep and rugged terrain, and is now only six miles away as the crow flies in an area with very few roads to help fire fighters create a line of containment. Hoping for cool, dry, calm winds until my plants finish, then lots of rain to put out all the fires. I know it is crazy to wish for dry weather at this point. Last year my house was 1 mile from homes that were on standby for evacuation, and now again the very next year I am only 4 miles from where people are on standby for evacuations. This drought and climate change are a bummer!
There was a recent fire tragedy for a local town named Weed. No joke, the town is named Weed. Another nearby town has a motto and a big sign across the main street that reads "It's the climate". The name of the town is from a pioneer with the last name of Weed, but our southwest corner of the state of Oregon is well known for the production of Cannabis, as well as for the hot dry summer weather.
No joke about the tragedy though. More than 100 homes burned completely down, and 100 homes damaged. No one died or seriously hurt. Very lucky for that part. A significant portion of the small town of Weed is destroyed. That specific fire is now contained, but I feel bad hoping for just a bit more of dry weather until my outdoor crop finishes.
I should try and get back to sleep for awhile before work. Life has been interesting lately.
All the Best,
ThaiBliss
All 3 Neville x Oaxaca are males, one super funky one. I got 2 females from the skunk haze. I have 5 Oaxaca seeds left, 10 skunk haze, 8 early mum x Neville. And a pack of zamaldelica. What should I pop next? I'm moving the boys to a safe place to flower and test smoke. Lots of crosses to try.
Hi BTF,
Assuming you are continuing to hold at least one of the Neville's x Oaxcan males for breeding, why not try and pop a few more of those in hopes of a female?
ThaiBliss
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sourpuss
Great pics and write ups bro! Love comin here and spending some time reading... great info.... nep jam has been on my radar. Sounds like its gonna be a good one! Good luck.... my buddies r getting mold on their big buds.... knock on wood...
HerBnGorE(illa)
Member
Looking good as always thaibliss. Out of curiosity, if you were going to choose between the bangi haze and the nepjam, based solely on effect, which would you choose?? Or is that to be determined?
B
Bob Green
Hey Thai good lookin' grow!
On a side note I remember traveling through the city of weed a few years back. I stopped to eat there and take some pictures. Beautifull little spot for sure. Sorry to hear about all the fire in the area. I got so see a lot of western Oregon that trip. On the way up I took I5 but decided to take the long way down 101 on the way back south.man what an awesome trip that was. I could not help but think of spending more time there some day. I lived and grew in WA State for quite some time. I just loved that trip down 101 from WA down through Humbolt. Amazing experiance for sure.
On a side note I remember traveling through the city of weed a few years back. I stopped to eat there and take some pictures. Beautifull little spot for sure. Sorry to hear about all the fire in the area. I got so see a lot of western Oregon that trip. On the way up I took I5 but decided to take the long way down 101 on the way back south.man what an awesome trip that was. I could not help but think of spending more time there some day. I lived and grew in WA State for quite some time. I just loved that trip down 101 from WA down through Humbolt. Amazing experiance for sure.
Dankstang
Member
Thai bliss
Another 541 grower here too!
Happy to see somebody grow sativas around here
Everybody sticks with fast indicas to be safe
Next year I wanna do a greenhouse just so I can grow a racy 12 wk racy phenomenon
Best of luck man. Weather has been great and smoke seems to be clearing after the rain
Another 541 grower here too!
Happy to see somebody grow sativas around here
Everybody sticks with fast indicas to be safe
Next year I wanna do a greenhouse just so I can grow a racy 12 wk racy phenomenon
Best of luck man. Weather has been great and smoke seems to be clearing after the rain
Greetings,
Thanks for the positive vibes Sourpuss. The Nepalese Jam started out early, but now I see it is going through a second phase of pushing out lots of new pistils, while the Bangi Haze looks more like an all at once Indica flowering and now simply ripening type. We'll see.
HerBnGorE(illa) - I have not tried the Nepalese Jam yet. I hope some buds make it in time so I can try it.
Koondense - I love the timing and the looks of the Muay Thai. When did you plant the seeds? Good job. Sounds like the quality is good already. I'm looking forward to more pictures, and the final smoke report.
Bob Green - Reading the stories in the paper about Weed resident's experiences during the fire just about brought tears to my eyes. It is really fortunate no one died, but they are suffering there, and will for a long time to come. Aside from the each person's personal tragedy of losing everything and starting out all over again, it is a pretty isolated town, and that destruction is going to have a devastating effect on the local economy. Plus, it scared a lot of people shitless while it was happening. I'm sure it will be the scariest memory of their lifetime for many of them.
I used to live in California and visited friends up in this area many times while driving through the Redwood Empire on route 101. That area is a true wonder of the world. It is as beautiful as any place I have ever visited, and my favorite vacations are to areas of natural beauty and wild lands. It is really saying something when it is memorable for someone from Washington state. Washington has some amazing places also.
Dankstang - Hey man! I want a greenhouse also. When I first started looking, I found a great deal, but did not know it until I spent another year looking on Craig's List. I wish I had grabbed that first one I looked at. It was way bigger than I needed, but I could have built part of it, then built another or sold the rest of it. It was beefy with 3 inch diameter heavy gauge pipes. Live and learn.
Speaking of wanting a greenhouse, it rained for about 12 hours straight, which walloped my plants. It flattened two of them, and broke many branches on all of them. One had it's main stem snap at the point where I had tied it to the fence in order to prevent it from falling over. The long range forecast is for a possibility of more rain after a short record breaking hot spell. Mold is becoming a high probability now. I used to be a guerilla grower who would hide plants amongst the brush. This protected them from wind and to some extent the rain. Other plants would act as props to prevent branches from bending all the way over in the rain. Growing in the wide open makes them grow bigger with fatter, heavier buds that makes them even more vulnerable to the weather. I will never grow them big again without using those oversized tomato cages that everyone else uses. I screwed up big time. I just got done using chairs, boards, fruit boxes, window screens, and 5 gallon buckets as props to get the branches off the ground and spread them out so they are ventilated enough in the hopes of preventing mold.
The good news is that the rain put a big damper on the fire. The firefighters now have an estimated containment date in a little over a week.
I'm learning how to use my camera a little better. I found the macro function, but now I have to pay attention to exposure settings and such. I also need a big tripod the steady the camera. My wife was probably right, I need to learn more before getting a better camera.
Hope you all are faring better than I,
ThaiBliss
Dankstang
Member
It's amazing what a difference proper support does for the health of the plant
We use this 6" square galvanized fencing
http://m.lowes.com/product?langId=-...2107&store=0248&view=detail&nValue=4294612409
We cut em to fit on our beds then tie em down using metal wire. We still have to use plastic trellis and make mini hoop houses for each tree. They're about 10 tall and 36 around. It seems it's most of the work to stay on top of it before stuff starts breaking.
We use this 6" square galvanized fencing
http://m.lowes.com/product?langId=-...2107&store=0248&view=detail&nValue=4294612409
We cut em to fit on our beds then tie em down using metal wire. We still have to use plastic trellis and make mini hoop houses for each tree. They're about 10 tall and 36 around. It seems it's most of the work to stay on top of it before stuff starts breaking.
I'm very sorry to hear bad news TB, however the bud pictures are super nice
About my plant, Muay Thai was soaked 2nd may, sprouted next day and after 3 weeks of indoor pregrowing at 16/8 and transplanted last week of may in soil mix, hole was around 50l with added mycorhizza, the spot has 5-6 hours of direct sun, no more.
I support her with ropes on a couple of heavy iron rods, but without the wall it would be another story, probably much more similar to yours or Orfeas'.
About my plant, Muay Thai was soaked 2nd may, sprouted next day and after 3 weeks of indoor pregrowing at 16/8 and transplanted last week of may in soil mix, hole was around 50l with added mycorhizza, the spot has 5-6 hours of direct sun, no more.
I support her with ropes on a couple of heavy iron rods, but without the wall it would be another story, probably much more similar to yours or Orfeas'.
Hi,
First of all: try to bind those fallen branches up with some bamboo.
Second:To avoid big plants just sow a few weeks later in the season. You can also restrict root space i.e. be slow on repotting them.
Third: I really feel sorry for your loss. You still have some nice buds going on though.
Siever
TB, I suggest spraying your plants with an aerated tea. The micro-organisms in there will compete with the mold, hopefully preventing bud rot. I use Microbe Man's recipe, but basically anything with a source of micro-organisms, some sugar and other nutes bubbled for a day or two will do.
I'm beginning to think that from mid-flower onwards, the trichomes and roots are competing for Silica (Si). Trichomes are 90% silica, roots have more than their 20% (for the average plant) share of silica, and I think the plants directing silica to the trichomes is weakening the roots in flowering. Which leads to budrot, which often happens from inside the bud out, because it comes up through the plants from the roots.
Also, Silica makes your buds frostier. A bond with Phosphorus is good, but a bond with Oxygen is better, because it leaves no extra taste in the buds. Good products I've used are Plant Magic Plus Bio-Silicon, and GHE's Mineral Magic.
Also, Silica makes your buds frostier. A bond with Phosphorus is good, but a bond with Oxygen is better, because it leaves no extra taste in the buds. Good products I've used are Plant Magic Plus Bio-Silicon, and GHE's Mineral Magic.
Sorry to say so, but from a scientific perspective this sounds like a voodoo priest's divination...
Thanks for the tips on preventing mold everyone.
I was playing around with my camera trying to learn how do use the macro function and came up with these pictures of GN x NHz x MM and Copalita. The GN...'s resin heads are starting to raise up on stalks on small leaves and swelling calyxes. This plant has been getting a rougher treatment than I had intended, but as a result is showing a smattering of blonde, reddish, green, and brown colors. I used to see this in imported bud quite often in my youth:
Here is a Copalita Oaxacan that is getting very close to being done in my estimation:
There are only a handful of buds left with a smattering of fresh pistils. Brown seems to be the dominant color of these buds to my eyes. I smoked quite a bit of Mexican brown bud in my youth, some of it surprisingly very good. The spicy, peppery, and ammonia aromas are now joined by a bit of earthy musty scents. This is common in Mexican and Colombian strains, and is part of the reputation they have had for poorly handled brick weed, but I believe it is actually a genetic trait.
ThaiBliss
I was playing around with my camera trying to learn how do use the macro function and came up with these pictures of GN x NHz x MM and Copalita. The GN...'s resin heads are starting to raise up on stalks on small leaves and swelling calyxes. This plant has been getting a rougher treatment than I had intended, but as a result is showing a smattering of blonde, reddish, green, and brown colors. I used to see this in imported bud quite often in my youth:
Here is a Copalita Oaxacan that is getting very close to being done in my estimation:
There are only a handful of buds left with a smattering of fresh pistils. Brown seems to be the dominant color of these buds to my eyes. I smoked quite a bit of Mexican brown bud in my youth, some of it surprisingly very good. The spicy, peppery, and ammonia aromas are now joined by a bit of earthy musty scents. This is common in Mexican and Colombian strains, and is part of the reputation they have had for poorly handled brick weed, but I believe it is actually a genetic trait.
ThaiBliss
Fuck off.
Also, you're too ignorant to know that biology has nothing to do with science.
