which LED would you buy to replace a 1k watt?

[LandOfTheHaze]

I just moved into a smaller place and heat will be an issue.

Since I'm moving into a new place I might as well get a new setup.

LED will be easy to cool and wont jack up my electric bill.

I have 2 spaces I could use.

52 inches x 48 inches
and
55 inches x 36 inches

there are so many LEDs out there and I've heard so many different stories. I figured my best bet would be to get first hand experience.

anyone out there replace their 1k watters with leds?

thanks guys. hope yall had a nice long weekend

 

[PetFlora]

At the moment you're looking at ~ $2K to replace a quality 1000 hps

I completed a grow here using a BML SPYDR 600 ($999)

almost a pound

Starting from seedlings this grow

This time it will be in a 4 x 4

Started transferring cracked seeds this morning

 

[StoopheadFred]

EBay cobs for me. Each 100w unit runs me ~$40 using the eBay chip/driver and some heatsinks from the local pc recycling place.

 

[ganja_guru]

Ever consider induction grow lights? Check them out, personally this is the way I would go.

Cheers GG.

 

[HydroGrowLeds]

I just moved into a smaller place and heat will be an issue.

Since I'm moving into a new place I might as well get a new setup.

LED will be easy to cool and wont jack up my electric bill.

I have 2 spaces I could use.

52 inches x 48 inches
and
55 inches x 36 inches

Hi Land of Haze, how are you doing?

The real question is what is your goal? Same yield, more yield, less yield? Switching to LED will lower your cooling needs, but not eliminate them. We have several lights you could use to cover that sized area and replace your 1000W. Obviously LED is more epensive up front than HID, but it really depends on how you look at it.

IE: Your 1000W HID is $500, and you could get our 900W SOL for $1699. But watt for watt grow tests dating back 5 years ago on ICMag show our lights consistently deliver at least double the yield per watt of HID. So when your first grow is done and you get 600g from your 1000W and 1200g from the LED, which light is more expensive for you to run? The one that cost you an extra $1100 up front, or the one that gives you 600g less yield on every harvest?

If you're still on the fence, we have a 90 day return policy on all of our lights to make trying them worry-free. If you aren't blown away by the results, return it for a full refund.

 

[Snook]

Hi Land of Haze, how are you doing?

The real question is what is your goal? Same yield, more yield, less yield? Switching to LED will lower your cooling needs, but not eliminate them. We have several lights you could use to cover that sized area and replace your 1000W. Obviously LED is more epensive up front than HID, but it really depends on how you look at it.

IE: Your 1000W HID is $500, and you could get our 900W SOL for $1699. But watt for watt grow tests dating back 5 years ago on ICMag show our lights consistently deliver at least double the yield per watt of HID. So when your first grow is done and you get 600g from your 1000W and 1200g from the LED, which light is more expensive for you to run? The one that cost you an extra $1100 up front, or the one that gives you 600g less yield on every harvest?

If you're still on the fence, we have a 90 day return policy on all of our lights to make trying them worry-free. If you aren't blown away by the results, return it for a full refund.

please post the links to these 'tests' HGL. If they say what you are saying, I'm in.. but til now, I haven't read any of that though.

please pm me your website..

 

[HydroGrowLeds]

Hey Snook!

Many years ago a grower who goes by "Hazy" put 484 watts of HPS against 465 watts of our Penetrator LEDs (1W models from 2010). The link to his journal is: https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=184542

The LEDs using 465 watts produced 406.9 g.
The HPS using 485 watts produced 204.6 g.

Because this account has so few posts we are currently unable to PM; however our website is: http://www.hydrogrowled.com

 

[Snook]

Hey Snook!

Many years ago a grower who goes by "Hazy" put 484 watts of HPS against 465 watts of our Penetrator LEDs (1W models from 2010). The link to his journal is: https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=184542



Because this account has so few posts we are currently unable to PM; however our website is: http://www.hydrogrowled.com

sorry HGL... that was 4 years ago. what have you done for me lately?
90% of that thread is from 'hazy', he/she could be anyone, maybe you. not trying to be a dick but that's a lot of money. still have heat issues, maybe not as much. and 3 year 'warranty' vs a HPS bulb that costs $100 +|-, once a year.. I'd like to do LED but too expensive.

 

[FromHolland]

LED does beat HPS but in the current state it's not super perfect. With LED its easy to get a yield over 1 gram per watt. LED is the future but currently it's still expensive.

Just check these cool reviews:
http://www.ledgrow.eu/Reviews.html

 

[HydroGrowLeds]

sorry HGL... that was 4 years ago. what have you done for me lately?

Hi Snook

Compared to our lights 4 years ago, our present models deliver more than 4x the penetration, nearly double the PAR output and larger coverage areas. The spectrum has also been advanced many times over since that grow. Our lights now are far more powerful, which means we've done a lot for you. Now instead of just getting 2X the yield per watt compared to HID, you can expect up to 3X the yield. We'd love to see a test performed by you that shows others this. We'll even extend our return policy for you so that you can get a full run in against your HID.

90% of that thread is from 'hazy', he/she could be anyone, maybe you. not trying to be a dick but that's a lot of money.

Hazy was a very well respected member of the ICMag community, which is why he was chosen back then to receive a free light much like the giveaway promotion we have going on presently on this very forum. You can check his credentials with long-time members such as JJScorpio, Payaso or Skip. Or you can do a forum search for his posts. I appreciate your skepticism and not wanting to believe everything you read, but we were not affiliated with Hazy in any way other than supplying lights for his test.

still have heat issues, maybe not as much. and 3 year 'warranty' vs a HPS bulb that costs $100 +|-, once a year.. I'd like to do LED but too expensive.

Consider this - you get 600 grams with your 1000W HPS. Now if you bring in 1000W of LED you get at least 1200 grams. What's more expensive, the start up cost of the LED or 600 grams of cannabis? Last I checked a pound was selling for about $3,000, and you're getting more than that on every harvest with our lights. Is it really more expensive to go LED, or to keep running your HIDs? And with our return policy what do you have to lose from trying them? We want people to have a risk-free trial with our lights, and we have less than 0.5% lights returned. Of the lights returned, the vast majority are people who want to upgrade to a larger light. You'll be blown away by our tech, and you can have a full 120 days to test it.

Yes, we have a 3 year warranty which means if the part fails in that time we replace it for free. If a part fails after 3 years, we sell you a replacement. A pair of LEDs for X2 is $125 shipped. Very comparable to your HID bulb.

 

[Calimed]

This sounds familiar.

 

[stoned-trout]

whatever you do use double what they recommend ...trying to replace an 1000 with led could only be achieved by lining a whole grow area with them...led is not an hid replacement...its a step down IMHO... I haven't used led myself but have seen quite a few grows in person using em...they have their place and can work well too...when the price drops more and the led get better I might jump in for fun.....led cant match hid for bigger plants that's for sure...real world results ,not internet bullshit....

 

[PetFlora]

whatever you do use double what they recommend ...trying to replace an 1000 with led could only be achieved by lining a whole grow area with them...led is not an hid replacement...its a step down IMHO... I haven't used led myself but have seen quite a few grows in person using em...they have their place and can work well too...when the price drops more and the led get better I might jump in for fun.....led cant match hid for bigger plants that's for sure...real world results ,not internet bullshit....

Apparently you have not seen Greengenes707 YT videos comparing 1K hps v AT 600. I think it's under Greengenes garden

 

[BluesHarp]

Subbed,,,,,

 

[stoned-trout]

anything is possible on the internet...believe what you want ..I have seen quite a few led grows in person...and they were decent growers......how come the free lights never go to a long time member who will stay around and don't bullshit and count sugarleaf and popcorn.....ooh wait I know why .......peace

 

[cone]

the one i'm using!

 

[PetFlora]

LED does beat HPS but in the current state it's not super perfect. With LED its easy to get a yield over 1 gram per watt. LED is the future but currently it's still expensive.

Just check these cool reviews:
http://www.ledgrow.eu/Reviews.html

First g/w is a worthless barometer of results.

I grew a back-cross last grow under a BML SPYDR 600. One plant yielded 222gms dry bud, the other pheno (smaller expression) ~ 120gms

Hopefully you can extrapolate and see why averaging 2 totally different phenos and sizes/yields makes no sense

Next, expensive? Up front yes, but when bulb replacement, cooling /ducting expense + more $$$$ for electric, a good led can pay for itself within 2 years

 

[cone]

513w equivalent light output to a 1000w

 

[FromHolland]

PetFlora: Don't get me wrong, I'm not bashing LED. LED will beat HPS one day, I bet that's going to happens when the price goes down. Here all tomato farmers use HPS in their greenhouses, they did many tests with LEDS they said it will beat HPS because with LED you can build the correct spectrum you need but currently is way to expensive.

Yes for a legal grower it will save up a lot of money because it doesn't waste much electricity but a commercial grower wont probably even care as they steal electricity.

 

[PetFlora]

PetFlora: Don't get me wrong, I'm not bashing LED. LED will beat HPS one day, I bet that's going to happens when the price goes down. Here all tomato farmers use HPS in their greenhouses, they did many tests with LEDS they said it will beat HPS because with LED you can build the correct spectrum you need but currently is way to expensive.

Yes for a legal grower it will save up a lot of money because it doesn't waste much electricity but a commercial grower wont probably even care as they steal electricity.

Check out Greengenes Garden(er?) YT videos. He did a side by side: Apache Tech 600 v 1000w hps AND had the results analyzed by an independent laboratory

Long live the new king- LEDs

That said, AT is uber $$$$$. Good news is a new player is entering the LED market. The designer is an mj grower. I will be receiving 2 panels Wednesday, so if you would like to follow along, please sub my grow threads

And yes, there is a big difference when commercially growing trees