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approached by someone who wants to partner, did i get in over my head?

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Dave Coulier

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Im glad you've already viewed them! Your spot on with your diagnosis. The toughest part is often figuring out what is causing the symptoms to manifest. Its not always as easy as under-feeding or over-feeding unfortunately.

From the sound of your Mom, it seems you already have a demanding partner :(. You would be best off finding an alternative area to grow at and not involve your mom in any way. You'll both be happier, and your relationship wont be as stressed.

Have you ever considered trying out synthetic nutrients? I tried the organic route when I first began growing, but it was more difficult for me when it came to feeding and treating nutrient deficiencies. Synthetics allow you alot more flexibility and control imo. If your set on organics, using synthetics to treat problems is feasible and practical, and I expect you'll see quicker results in treating the problems you encounter.
 
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DoubleDDsNuggs

I started in hydro and at first everything was rocking. I had explosive growth and I was super into growing and learning. then I upgraded to HID lights and the heat really screwed with my water temps and I ended up getting root rot. I put them all into soil and started another hydro grow while the others healed and fixed themselves in the dirt. those are the plants that I harvested. I used synthetics the whole time. I got root rot in the second grow and put them in soil as well, ditched the hydro and put this together quickly so I could finish them off organically because if your doing soil you might as well do organics imo. I have been crash studying ever since and organics and learning all the different amendments and how they do all the stuff is a fuck ton of info. however, studying DO rates in compost tea brewers made me realize why I was getting root rot in my hydro. I didn't have enough DO for my 25 gallon rez and the temp wasn't as big of factor as I had once thought! it's amazing when you look back on your posts and see the progress you have made in understanding how this system works. I hope it all works out but dealing with my mom has always been a challenge and renting from a landlord who would be okay with growing would probably be far greater. the most I have to worry about my mom is her going out there and unplugging the lights. she would never cause any legal or financial issues for me like a landlord could. eventually I will have the house in a few years when she retires, gives her business to me and moves to Arizona.

not sure who decides on whats a sticky or not but I have to say, those videos dave has collected should be one. the info is put together that makes it easy to understand.
 
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DoubleDDsNuggs

why didn't I think of this before?! why don't I just bring my mom to the medical market to talk to the growrs I'm speaking with so they can all tell her the stories of how making mistakes is normal and expected?! maybe if she hears it from someone else and especially someone her own age, then she can be more sympathetic? about time she picks out her own meds anyways....
 

joebloom

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Hey DD. Me 5 gal pales, Fox Farms, 1 nutrient for veg, 1 nutrient for bloom, Botanicare.
This part is key, water, skip a day, feed, skip a day, water, repeat like that. Never to dry, never to wet. Happy Growing
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DoubleDDsNuggs

I was told to follow the knuckle rule and if it was dry then to add 10% or so the container volume of water per the Tom Hill instructions. the soil never gets totally saturated. it did dawn on me yesterday that I could go get some cheap blumats for the two clones while they're still small. that would probably help a lot.
 

joebloom

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I don't like that one bit. Im sure the help was huge, but,'"tell no one" is the the golden rule. The new guy could be building the bond. Besides, you've seen the killer is always nice at first
 

joebloom

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To DD if u water from container you will figure out how many girls you can water each container, so it will get easier
 

shawkmon

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dont buy blumats, dont buy anything else till ya have a fat bag of weed. just put some seeds in some dirt and get some cfl twisty bulbs, yer mom has spares, ok i lied , buy a cheap light timer they cost 15 bux. ok , water in the seed, put light 6 inches away from the container, put the light timer on 12/12 , k 1212 from seed is easy and ya will have smokeable weed in as little as 75 days, longer starins take 90. i usualy see sex on plants around 26 days old on the average . so if ya add that up say 30 days veg then 50 or 60 days flower pow. the plant will veg under 1212 until it is mature enough to grow flowers no worries. id plant seeds all the time every week as i harvested weed every week from my closet. all ya need is a closet, and i used under my bathroom sink for clone and seed starter spot. ya dont have to spend money. no wonder yer mom is mad, how much did ya spend on that bubbler for the tea? if ya want herb then keep lights on 1212 and throw seeds in the soil, water and wait pow !
 

bombadil.360

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dont buy blumats, dont buy anything else till ya have a fat bag of weed.


indeed. no need for bluemats doubledd, don't over-work on the plants, let them be, just provide for them the proper environment, they don't need pampering to grow, all they need is a proper environment.
 
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DoubleDDsNuggs

small air pumps are less than twenty bucks and I have one left over from my hydro already and wouldn't need to purchase anything additional. organics is really inexpensive so not much money has been spent besides building the soil which I planned to recycle. just thought buying a blumat for $5 would potentially save me money in replacing super young plants with tender roots till they were a bit bigger and could handle overwatering and bounce back easier.
 

Dave Coulier

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I was told to follow the knuckle rule and if it was dry then to add 10% or so the container volume of water per the Tom Hill instructions. the soil never gets totally saturated. it did dawn on me yesterday that I could go get some cheap blumats for the two clones while they're still small. that would probably help a lot.

Dont just use your knuckle up top, stick your fingers in the drain holes at the bottom too. Whether I use my blumats or not, I stick my finger in all the holes at the bottom to judge moisture content. If none or very little soil falls after removing your finger your good. If soil comes out with your finger its too dry. Btw Blumats are amazing, and will improve growth rates of your plants once you properly dial them in, which isn't too hard.

If you want to hand water look into the Pulse-Method of watering. Its basically watering slowly with half of your nutrient solution or water, then waiting 5-10 minutes and giving the rest of the water slowly. If you have a strong root system, you can lift the plant up after the waiting period to see how far the solution has pentrated the soil. Then you can gauge how much more water or feed to provide after that.
 

Mikell

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From the sound of your Mom, it seems you already have a demanding partner :(. You would be best off finding an alternative area to grow at and not involve your mom in any way. You'll both be happier, and your relationship wont be as stressed.

I wasen't going to chip in on this clusterfuck of "advice", but had a hankering to mention this.

Scale back until you rely on no one but yourself, especially for financial inputs. The pressure to perform and the resulting anxiety is going to cause nothing but grief, for the plants and personal relationships.

Regardless of anything happening now, your postings show a perspective and frame of mind that will be fruitful in the end.
 

Dave Coulier

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I wasen't going to chip in on this clusterfuck of "advice", but had a hankering to mention this.

Scale back until you rely on no one but yourself, especially for financial inputs. The pressure to perform and the resulting anxiety is going to cause nothing but grief, for the plants and personal relationships.

Regardless of anything happening now, your postings show a perspective and frame of mind that will be fruitful in the end.

I dont see how you can call my advice a clusterfuck. I see nothing wrong with it. She clearly needs space away from her mom when it comes to growing.

How she can scale back more when she has a very small grow? Its only a couple of plants. But hey, I guess your advice makes more sense than my clusterfuck of "advice". :crazy: In fact it kinda looks like you paraphrased much of my advice.

I guess it doesn't really matter as she's deleted her account. Its a shame. I wanted to see if things turned around for her.
 

Mikell

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I dont see how you can call my advice a clusterfuck. I see nothing wrong with it. She clearly needs space away from her mom when it comes to growing.

How she can scale back more when she has a very small grow? Its only a couple of plants. But hey, I guess your advice makes more sense than my clusterfuck of "advice". :crazy: In fact it kinda looks like you paraphrased much of my advice.

I guess it doesn't really matter as she's deleted her account. Its a shame. I wanted to see if things turned around for her.

You misunderstand, the clusterfuck refers to the four pages here as a whole. I quoted you because it highlighted what I wanted to say, and was one of the few useful comments here.

She can scale back until she can pay her own power re: independence.
 
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