Running a CLS Passive Recovery?

[Azkamidaka]

so basically like you just said I would need a Mkiiia style lid to fit the lil terp....need to read a little more about flood port style on the Mkiiia....I know the lid is engineered with the central cylinder recessed into the collection tank....cant remember why, but I know its essential to being able to do bottom up flooding? Is that right? Thanks for the quick reply.

 

[hobb3s93]

I see. You will need to the NPT fitting to match because the 3/8" will be different.

For example
http://www.amazon.com/Weatherhead-5...09714536&sr=1-18&keywords=3/8"+npt+to+3/8+JIC

That is ridiculously expensive though so I would look around.

I have both 3/8" jic and sae flare fittings on my system. Wish they were compatible..

ya 16 bucks aint too bad. i got to thinking about this last night that i could use an adapter but woudint i need a male 3/8 jic to female 3/8 sae? or would i use this jic male/npt male fitting then slap an m/f sae fitting on the npt end?
what are these type of fittings used for normally? might be easier for me to figure out in person....

got everything ordered yestrday. should be part of the cls club by october

 

[Chonkski]

ya 16 bucks aint too bad. i got to thinking about this last night that i could use an adapter but woudint i need a male 3/8 jic to female 3/8 sae? what are these type of fittings used for normally? might be easier for me to figure out in person....

got everything ordered yestrday. should be part of the cls club by october

Yes you can do that, but if you think about it, that is just complicating things. Just switch the fitting that is on the terpenator to fit the hose, rather than adapt. Less unions for less chances to leak..

These pictures are all 3/8" one is JIC and one is SAE. Both on the same system

 

[Chonkski]

Yes you can do that, but if you think about it, that is just complicating things. Just switch the fitting that is on the terpenator to fit the hose, rather than adapt. Less unions for less chances to leak..

These pictures are all 3/8" one is JIC and one is SAE. Both on the same system

Sorry, I do all of my reading on my ipad. Which will only let me post 1 picture at a time

 

[Chonkski]

Sorry, I do all of my reading on my ipad. Which will only let me post 1 picture at a time

Really sorry for the multiple posts, I give up! It won't let me post all of the example pictures I took. Unless you need

 

[hobb3s93]

Really sorry for the multiple posts, I give up! It won't let me post all of the example pictures I took. Unless you need

no worries man but i do appreciate the pics. i get what you're saying now, im just confusing myself kus i dont have the system yet. ill get it figured out once she gets here. thanx for alleviating my fears haha

 

[Scalawag]

Thanks for asking all these questions, hobb3s93.

I'm gonna comb through this thread carefully. My goal is to build up an MKIII as well but run it passively with a new "cryo tube" (dewax sleeve) - anyone have thoughts about this? GrayWolf's method still applies I imagine...?

 

[jpdnkstr]

This thread answered many of my questions as well, finding good info is exhausting sometimes!

 

[coreymillia42]

This is a modified Best Value Vacs next to a Tamisium

 

[coreymillia42]

This is a the recovery of both passive systems. The butane is frozen before hand. The entire system stays around 2-10 psi, with a peak of around 15 to 20 during recovery. Both systems use 2 recovery tanks.

 

[flatslabs]

And you are running indoors with an ignition source sitting on the ground and your cat in the room? Unfortunately, this is the type of people we will see on the news first with the closed loop explosion. Poor kitty.

Who marked this guys posts as helpful, maybe you meant to click the ignorant button instead?

 

[NorPene Solutions]

Stick around long enough and you will see regular assaults on BHO in its every form.

It is good to have the opposition looking for chinks in our armor, because if anyone is going to find them, they will, but also understand that they often don't play by the same rules as the rest of us with regard to facts.

The game theory of people management says that when people can't win by the rules of the game, they will create different rules so that they can win.

Once of the strongest motivators to create new rules, is financial, where they are selling competitive products. Dr. Knowitallandmore enhances his product position by attacking the quality of the competing products, and no one has the remotest idea who Dr. knowitallandmore really is, cause that is just his avatar.

Well said GW!

 

[SkyHighLer]

And you are running indoors with an ignition source sitting on the ground and your cat in the room? Unfortunately, this is the type of people we will see on the news first with the closed loop explosion. Poor kitty.

Who marked this guys posts as helpful, maybe you meant to click the ignorant button instead?

I'd like to assume there's major ventilation going on... but still, not the situation to be emulated. Father Earth has pics up of his outdoor canopy setups; fans on one end, then the pumps etc., and at the open end, the extractor. Here's one from Terpanation at Terpene Station,

 

[flatslabs]

I would have liked to assume that too, but from the floor central heating / air duct, and the vacuum oven sitting on the ground next to an extractor I can only assume the worst case scenario. Just because your machine is passive, doesn't mean you can run it inside.

Don't even get me started on having animals rubbing up on your extractor, outside or not. If you want to burn or blow yourself up thats fine with me, but leave the poor kitties and puppies alone.

 

[coreymillia42]

It wasnt running. I was just checking them for leaks with new gaskets. Under vacuum and pressure, frozen and in both setups. Sorry to rile everyone up.

 

[Snype]

Attach a hose from your storage tank vapor line to the injection tee on top of the column.

Vacuum down the system to -29.9" Hg.

All the hose that I find is rated to 3,000 PSI but the vacuum rating is only 28" HG. Is there another hose rated higher to get to 29.9?

 

[Gray Wolf]

All the hose that I find is rated to 3,000 PSI but the vacuum rating is only 28" HG. Is there another hose rated higher to get to 29.9?

Smaller diameter will go to higher vacuum with thinner walls, but we have no issues with any of our hoses at -29".

Refrigeration hoses are made for -29.9" hg vacuums and are typically lined with nylon or kevlar, so as to be resistant to butane.

 

[bhogo]

Trying to remove the mystery oil with my bvv system. It's been over 4 hours and the recovery tank is still 45 degrees and still at positive pressure.. could these be do to air getting into the tank when tapping the butane? The water started out at 110 and is still at about 90, should I dump it and refill? it took a lot of water to fill up the pot to fit it in and I'm trying to be a good Californian. The recovery tank is covered just below shoulder height in ice..

 

[bhogo]

11 psi

 

[Gray Wolf]

Trying to remove the mystery oil with my bvv system. It's been over 4 hours and the recovery tank is still 45 degrees and still at positive pressure.. could these be do to air getting into the tank when tapping the butane? The water started out at 110 and is still at about 90, should I dump it and refill? it took a lot of water to fill up the pot to fit it in and I'm trying to be a good Californian. The recovery tank is covered just below shoulder height in ice..

Do you have propane in the mix?