Conroy has filed a "MMAR Cross Appeal" in response to HC's Appeal of the Injunction

[Buddha1]

Conroy has filed a "MMAR Cross Appeal" in response to HC's Appeal of the Injunction

-An Injunction was granted on Mar. 21, 2014, in regards to the MMAR repeal. It allowed anyone with a valid PPL as of Sept. 30, 2013(or later), together with a valid ATP as of Mar. 21, 2014(or later) to continue to self produce Marijuana as medicine.

-June 10, 2014, Health Canada submitted an appeal to the Mar. 21, 2014, injunction.

Here's the link:

http://johnconroy.com/pdf/Appellants-Memo-of-Fact-and-Law.pdf

-July 23, 2014, John Conroy & Company has filed there Cross Appeal.

Here the link:

http://johnconroy.com/pdf/Respondents-Memo-of-Fact-and-Law-final-filed.pdf

-The Constitutional Challenge is slated to be heard on Feb. 23, 2015 by an ordered time line.

Here's the link:

http://johnconroy.com/pdf/Order-Timeline-May-2-2014-Manson.pdf

Nothing has changed in regards to the Mar. 21, injunction. If you are protected by the "Injunction", you are still protected. Until the courts have heard both arguments of the Appeal, and of the Cross Appeal and made a judgement, nothing will change until the judgement of the "Constitutional Challenge" is rendered next Feb. 2015.

Peace...B

 

[Dr. Buddington]

Thank you for the update man!

 

[blastfrompast]

So what was the point of the appeal and cross appeal if it all comes down to the same thing in Feb?..

 

[leaffan]

So what was the point of the appeal and cross appeal if it all comes down to the same thing in Feb?..

I'm trying to figure that out too.

 

[GodsCronik]

I'm trying to figure that out too.

If I am correct (something I almost never assume on the interwebs)
the appeal is to state that the injuction never should have happened in the first place and why HC believes that. The counter appeal is the file further arguments on Conroys side relating to the points brought up in the HC appeal. Neither the appeal or cross appeal will hold any weight until the day when the injunction is being reconsidered. As stated the constitutional challenge is on an ordered time line, so all this is simply posturing before the judges make a final decision.

 

[leaffan]

If I am correct (something I almost never assume on the interwebs)
the appeal is to state that the injuction never should have happened in the first place and why HC believes that. The counter appeal is the file further arguments on Conroys side relating to the points brought up in the HC appeal. Neither the appeal or cross appeal will hold any weight until the day when the injunction is being reconsidered. As stated the constitutional challenge is on an ordered time line, so all this is simply posturing before the judges make a final decision.

Sounds logical, perhaps that's why it really isn't getting news coverage.

 

[bigbag]

so, who does everyone think is gonna win this...?

 

[fatburt]

i hope we win

 

[bigbag]

if Liberal's win, and follow through with legalisation, the "medical" scene will no doubt change with the tide...

 

[GodsCronik]

Honestly I think Conroy is going to triumph here. Basing his appeal on a constitutional challange is strong. I gives the judge essentially 3 options, side with the Constitution and provide the access as it is described, change the Constitution so it isn't unconstitutional to charge as much at the LPs are planning on charging for medicine, or lastly set a maximum rate that the LPs can charge for the medicine. Out of those three options the first one is the least painful politically and in terms of work load for the Judges.

 

[leaffan]

Honestly I think Conroy is going to triumph here. Basing his appeal on a constitutional challange is strong. I gives the judge essentially 3 options, side with the Constitution and provide the access as it is described, change the Constitution so it isn't unconstitutional to charge as much at the LPs are planning on charging for medicine, or lastly set a maximum rate that the LPs can charge for the medicine. Out of those three options the first one is the least painful politically and in terms of work load for the Judges.

And then the govt will appeal it, and on we go....never ending...

 

[GodsCronik]

That shouldn't be the case, in these instances the courts have set a final date for the decision to allow both parties ample time to construct their respective arguments both for and against.

By doing this the court has essentially said "get your shit together because we are deciding on X date". This being the case should result in a final verdict not open to appeal.

The courts likely wont present their decision on the date they have mentioned and may say that they will release a decision within a given amount of time, normally a year or less.

This should only go back and forth until the Feb 2015 date at which point it will be in the courts hands and all appeals will have been filed.

 

[Mikell]

if Liberal's win, and follow through with legalisation, the "medical" scene will no doubt change with the tide...

I call bullshit on Trudeau. The entire "legalization" proposal consisted of rumaging through his fathers paperwork, scratching out "Pierre" and scribbling in "Justin". If elected, he'll drop it the same way his father did, like a two penny ginger baby.

 

[GodsCronik]

I call bullshit on Trudeau. The entire "legalization" proposal consisted of rumaging through his fathers paperwork, scratching out "Pierre" and scribbling in "Justin". If elected, he'll drop it the same way his father did, like a two penny ginger baby.

I sure hope not, and I will probably cast my vote his way just on the off chance he follows through. However my trust in our federal politicians is thin to say the least.

 

[Mikell]

I sure hope not, and I will probably cast my vote his way just on the off chance he follows through.

That's what they were both banking on.

 

[bigbag]

^ here, here. I totally concur...but hope Justin proves us wrong and has some cojone's

 

[leaffan]

We need JT to tell us what is the status of the 2013 mj proposal drafted by the BC branch and the young liberals. Push the Federal Liberals to endorse that detailed proposal.

 

[GodsCronik]

We need JT to tell us what is the status of the 2013 mj proposal drafted by the BC branch and the young liberals. Push the Federal Liberals to endorse that detailed proposal.

That would be nice. I get where people are coming from, in that he may renig on this point once elected. however he seems to be the only real contender who is even pretending to was legalization. IMHO where the chances may only be slim with JT, they are nil with the others.

 

[Manstien]

I sat at a table with conroy and couple other guys during this boat smoke out - talked court lingo for a couple hours....kind of gave me hope in the game if you get what i mean...

 

[bobthegrower]

Having held DG#1 It will be as follows....

Judge make descision.....Allow current Growers to grow. Get all new applicants to buy from LP's.

Gov't happy....All new ones have to do the new rules. Big Biz get the molah.

Old growers happy..... they get to keep growing.

JUDGES happy (You know how they hate to challenge each other) the first judge make right descision and they all get to follow suit. Baaaaa

Everyone happy.

Eventually it all get legit.

Capiche?