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Caseyjones massive plants thread..grow show! Enjoy!

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caseyjones123

The yield suffered a little due to aphids and mites and heat( 107 degrees often). Closing depo and spiking temps and humidity didn't help. I have a week left on this 10
Week triangle kush. Next year I hope to not have plants in flower during these hot summer weeks. 75% of plants are looking good. Organics int te greenhouse is tricky. I am thinking of running house and garden nutes with bloombastic for bloom next year in the GH, my indoor recipe. Also going to choose a faster heartier strain for the greenhouse.
 
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caseyjones123

Just did a close inspection while flooding my pots during watering the greenhouse and found bugs in the soil. I am thinking I should try a Diatomaceous earth, or neem cake top dress. Anyone have suggestions. I would like to get in top of this befor it is too late. I saw the effects in the greenhouse and is not good. Took me a while to catch on to these little buggers. I am glad to have figured out the issue. I just need a solution now.?
Top dress is for the full terms....
 

epicorchard

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Just did a close inspection while flooding my pots during watering the greenhouse and found bugs in the soil. I am thinking I should try a Diatomaceous earth, or neem cake top dress. Anyone have suggestions. I would like to get in top of this befor it is too late. I saw the effects in the greenhouse and is not good. Took me a while to catch on to these little buggers. I am glad to have figured out the issue. I just need a solution now.?
Top dress is for the full terms....

What kind of bugs?
 
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caseyjones123

What kind of bugs?
I am not sure , but I think I saw root aphids, winged and nonwinged, red spider mite, and little white guys, I think are springtails. I need a scope to better identifie these bugs. I also had thrips long ago which I think I handled. Looks like a learning experience for me. Being short handed and slackin on preventive spraying didn't help. I just top dressed full terms with DE. I also crop dusted all Plants. I feel like crop dusting the way to apply this. I just throw a handful Into the air and let the wind blow it into the plant.works really well. KISS method
 

epicorchard

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I am not sure , but I think I saw root aphids, winged and nonwinged, red spider mite, and little white guys, I think are springtails. I need a scope to better identifie these bugs. I also had thrips long ago which I think I handled. Looks like a learning experience for me. Being short handed and slackin on preventive spraying didn't help. I just top dressed full terms with DE. I also crop dusted all Plants. I feel like crop dusting the way to apply this. I just throw a handful Into the air and let the wind blow it into the plant.works really well. KISS method

I just let the thrips do their thing. They don't seem to effect much, and they stay low on my plants. How many plants of yours are effected? Are they showing signs of stress? I think losing up to 5% of your plants is fairly normal.
 
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All and all garden is looking good. I am very pleased for my first season.
 

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epicorchard

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All and all garden is looking good. I am very pleased for my first season.



Theres a balance of pests and predators in an outdoor garden. Like birds nesting in your plants, or the tree frogs hopping under the canopy, and the spiders spinning webs.

Your soil is a living ecosystem, the good, the bad, and the ugly all have there place. But your plants look healthy and strong, so al in all looks like you have a good thing going. I wouldn't worry too much about your bugs.
 
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caseyjones123

This is one my bigger ladies. Also looks like the dreaded broad mite has made stop at my garden . Any suggestions. I know of lots of options, avid, floramite, forbid, azatrol, sulphur, stylet oil ...never had to deal with these bugs befor. Finally got a scope and definitely have mites.
 

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whatthe215

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I hate to be the guy listing off nasty chems but if necessary...

Avid and Forbid (both systemic, trans-laminar and ovicidal) will take care of the BMs. Pylon miticide(buy phantom, same shit 1/10th price) also fucks em up. I think Spinosad will knock em back too, conserve sc will be a better option than monterey. Forget the floramite.

More important is makin sure they don't spread to other plants. They'll hitch a ride on any gnats, flies, white flies... probably anything that flies and likes plants.

Lookin good though man. Any idea how you got the BMs?
 

sticky367

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you may have already tried this but at osh or home depot they sell containers of nematodes for about $20 they contain millions of individual predatory nematodes that kill gnat larva, root aphids, and more.

I believe ants were farming root aphids on a plants roots in my garden, entering from the bottom of the pot, a week after introducing nematodes the ants have subsided greatly, I think because their aphid live stock are being killed off rapidly.

edit: my bad I just re read youre talking about BM not root aphids
 
I do not have the info on the protien pack that was amended into the soils. I don't know the proportions either. As it is a proprietary blend. I do know Dave at earthworm soil factory takes the quality of his amendments seriously. I can say after driving the amendments home from chico my car stank like fish and good quilty amendments. I amended some of my own , and had him do the other . I actually have 3 blends combined. I needed another 20 yards, and went with the mk blend, $118/yard. Which is like NorCal but without lava rock and and peat moss. Two most costly amendments. So a total of 240 yards. Was a lot of soil. My neighbors thought I was crazy. Bigger the root bigger the fruit!
Next year I plan to utilize all the soil with a early April light asisted planting.

As for additional amendments, I went with rainbow mix grow / bloom combo, 1 cup each topdress to each 300 smart pot.

I will be doing a little experimenting with some different bloom boosters. I will have a constant that will get no bloom amendments.
I will be testing

Earth juice rainbow mix bloom (1-9-2):
topdress only
topdress and folair
folair only(tea)

The same for:
Earth juice solution guano (0-8-1)
Dr earth bloom and bud booster(4-10-7)

I am also open to what others are trying. I would love some input on your organic bloom amendments.

Hey caseyjones, loving the show! Those half beds are pretty awesome, leveling things out on that slope. Did you use drip with pressure compensating emitters?

How have you liked the EWSF blend? Did you stick to those trials you mentioned? What's worked out best for you?

I planted into straight norcal blend without ammendments and tried to stick to water with a couple AACT applications. My mounds are only 1 yard though. I started seeing deficiencies all over the place though, so started brewing up nute teas and just started adding ageold bloom. A couple of my strains have stuck it out pretty strong with zero ammendments, and are the biggest healthiest plants in the garden, but theyre definitely the minority. Most plants are dropping a lot of leaves at this point and paling at their tips and edges. I think i relied on dave and that norcal blend too much.

Your much closer to dialing that blend in than me. Props. I want to build something up that has enough battery to get through the season. I think for starters I need bigger soil..

Anyways, congrats on your season. Just wanted to share my experience with the norcal blend.

:tiphat:
 
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caseyjones123

So... I am having trouble finding avid or forbid locally. Online is assume would be the plce to get it? Local hydro shop suggested "a-bomb", is supposed to be knock off of avid. Anyone ever tried a bomb? Also was suggested to make a mix with organicide+h2o2+sulpher+ therm ex . Is spray many see positive results with.
 

bamboogardner

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How have you liked the EWSF blend? I started seeing deficiencies all over the place though. Most plants are dropping a lot of leaves at this point and paling at their tips and edges. I think i relied on dave and that norcal blend too much.

You and many others did, including me. Caveat emptor "Let the buyer beware"!!!!!
 

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