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Oregon Marijuana Legalization Measure Makes Ballot

vta

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Oregon Marijuana Legalization Measure Makes Ballot

By Maya Srikrishnan
Source: Los Angeles Times

cannabis: Oregonians will be able to vote in November on whether to legalize marijuana for recreational use. The initiative submitted by the marijuana reform group New Approach Oregon received at least 88,500 valid signatures to qualify for placement on the ballot, election workers announced Wednesday.

“Treating marijuana use as a crime has failed,” Peter Zuckerman, spokesman for New Approach Oregon, told the Los Angeles Times on Wednesday. “We can’t afford to wait -- more lives are being ruined, more money is being blown into the black market and police are more distracted from issues like violent crime. Oregonians are open to a new approach to marijuana and we are going to fight for every vote.”

The measure needs a simple majority to pass.

If Oregon legalizes recreational marijuana, it would become the third state to do so, following Washington and Colorado, which both passed legalization initiatives in 2012. Alaska will also vote on a similar measure in November.

Twenty-four states and Washington, D.C., have passed laws permitting medicinal marijuana use.

The Oregon ballot measure, Initiative Petition 53, seeks to regulate the personal possession, commercial cultivation and retail sale of cannabis to adults. Under the plan, taxes on the sale of cannabis are estimated to raise about $88 million in the first two years following the law’s implementation.

The proposal would allow adults 21 and older to possess up to eight ounces of marijuana and to cultivate up to four plants. It would also give the Oregon Liquor Control Commission authority to oversee and regulate recreational sales, which would start in January 2016.

Recreational marijuana would be taxed at $1.50 a gram or $35 an ounce, according to the initiative. That revenue from the taxes would go to schools, law enforcement, drug treatment programs and mental health programs.

In a June poll in Oregon, 51% of those surveyed said they supported allowing adults to use, possess and grow marijuana for their personal use while allowing the state to regulate and tax it.

A study released Tuesday by ECO Northwest, an economic analysis and advisory group, estimated that marijuana regulation in Oregon would generate $38.5 million in tax revenue in the first year of sales.
 

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How hard is it to obtain an OR liquor store license?

OR doesn't allow liquor to be sold in grocery stores or convince stores. Perhaps one will have to have a liquor license to sell cannabis, or if one has a cannabis license he may also sell liquor.

Times are changing fast.

:joint:
 

theJointedOne

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4 plants? lol what a fuckin joke. These idiot lawyers think they know it all about the canna scene...so much that they think they can limit how much you can hold on you and how much you can grow lol

what a fuckin joke masked as legalization. Shit is regulation, nothing more.

at least the strictly puffers have no worries lol

hopefully then dont keep black market sales illegal, if they do then a big fuck off to them lol
 

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It does look a little strange. 4 outdoor plants per household could be a lot of weed in Oregon- easily many pounds, but there's a possession limit of 8 oz. Weird.

It's a start in the right direction, anyway.
 

armedoldhippy

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It does look a little strange. 4 outdoor plants per household could be a lot of weed in Oregon- easily many pounds, but there's a possession limit of 8 oz. Weird.

It's a start in the right direction, anyway.

could you harvest your weed & process it into 8 oz of hash & be legal? I could live like that...:tiphat:
 

Jhhnn

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could you harvest your weed & process it into 8 oz of hash & be legal? I could live like that...:tiphat:

Apparently not-

http://www.hightimes.com/read/11-features-oregons-marijuana-legalization-initiative

At some point or another, you'll have a lot more than 8 oz even if you could.

OTOH, paying $250 up front & $1000/yr lets you be a "commercial grower".

Ring-a-ding-ding! Maybe that's the whole point, a way to collect licensing fees from all but the smallest growers. Gotta study this a little more...
 

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Went through the whole thing. Quite strange.

http://newapproachoregon.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/053text.pdf

It leaves a whole shitpile of whatever is going to happen up to the Oregon Liquor Board, like I-502 in WA.

7 lets rule formulation be put off until Jan 2016, w/ an actual implementation date not specified.

29a allows them to limit licensees at their whim, so I doubt that my above speculation applies.

57 outlaws home extracts

64-67 allow for confiscation of property. They don't specifically mention real estate, but, well, you know.

74 is full of weird tax stuff.

75 outlaws sale of paraphernalia.

85 makes it hard to change for 4 years.

About as close to non-legalization w/ extreme regulatory control as one can get while allowing possession of small amounts. Well, that's entirely dependent on the liquor board who *could* theoretically go entirely in the other direction. Not likely.

From a CO A64 perspective, it's pretty warped.

EDIT- reading it again, 75 rescinds the law against paraphernalia for persons 21 & older after going on at some length to define paraphernalia. My mistake.
 

armedoldhippy

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so someone that only grows for themselves could have one plant drying, 8 oz in jars, one in flower, 1 in veg, & a rooting clone ready to veg. the 8 oz almost HAS to be dried buds with a 4 plant limit, or else they expect you to grow tiny autos only...hmmmm. you might have to give/throw away some every now & then like that.
 

armedoldhippy

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you know, hand-rubbed hash is not an extract. I think (hope?) that what they are talking about is BHO etc, probably don't want folks blowing up/setting houses on fire. just trying to be optimistic here. if you can have BOUGHT hash, how can they tell it from home-made old-style rubbed hash?
 

armedoldhippy

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"use of marijuana WHILE driving" :tiphat: so you could burn one before leaving the house & be safe ? they'll be looking at that real close, I'd say.
 

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I see so many parallels with this and alcohol law.

They want to make the quantity so small you could never really become self reliant. Its like they want to make home growing unattractive so you will be more likely to buy their regulated and taxed product.

Concentrates, like distilates are going to be heavily regulated. BHO/Dabs etc.. are the new moonshine.

Overall I'm glad that Oregon will take a step towards legalization. The more states that say yes, the more likely this prohibition will end.
 

theJointedOne

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Went through the whole thing. Quite strange.

http://newapproachoregon.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/053text.pdf

It leaves a whole shitpile of whatever is going to happen up to the Oregon Liquor Board, like I-502 in WA.

7 lets rule formulation be put off until Jan 2016, w/ an actual implementation date not specified.

29a allows them to limit licensees at their whim, so I doubt that my above speculation applies.

57 outlaws home extracts

64-67 allow for confiscation of property. They don't specifically mention real estate, but, well, you know.

74 is full of weird tax stuff.

75 outlaws sale of paraphernalia.

85 makes it hard to change for 4 years.

About as close to non-legalization w/ extreme regulatory control as one can get while allowing possession of small amounts. Well, that's entirely dependent on the liquor board who *could* theoretically go entirely in the other direction. Not likely.

From a CO A64 perspective, it's pretty warped.

Great info, ty for the link as well.

I see your point about the CO perspective, from out here in CA these fake legal/all regg laws look like hell compared to CAhsc11362.5 aka prop 215!
 

armedoldhippy

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I see so many parallels with this and alcohol. Concentrates, like distilates are going to be heavily regulated. BHO/Dabs etc.. are the new moonshine.

yes, but moonshine is still out there IF you want it. unless you set your house on fire making BHO or alcohol extracts, you will probably never be in trouble. if the extracts (wax, shatter, oil, etc) can be bought, what is to stop you from putting YOUR extract in the container from the manufacturer if you go out somewhere? average cop on the street will not be able to tell one from the other, nor will he care probably...
 

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Dunno, guys. This & the situation in WA look like a fallback position for prohibitionist politicos. If it has to be legal, damn it, then they intend to make it as expensive & hard to get as they can, maintain the black market & sell it to the voters as something it's not.

If they can get a strong majority to vote for it not knowing what it is, they lock it in for at least 4 years.

A64 is far from perfect, but this is about as close to pretend legalization as they can make it. I doubt that the Oregon cannabis community had much input at all.
 

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YOUR extract in the container from the manufacturer if you go out somewhere? average cop on the street will not be able to tell one from the other, nor will he care probably...

You're probally right, whos to say where the extract came from?

Heh.. You can smoke weed legally!. But we really want you to buy our stuff. Or only consume forms we approve of. WTF?

Honestly, what do they expect people to do with large amounts of trim?.

Meh.. Its all good, I'm just happy that OR is going to put it to vote.
 

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Well I for one don't live in any of these states that are legal or voting to become legal. I didn't even live in a med state until recently. Which is BTW the most ignorant med bill EVER in my opinion. But every time I see some change or something being voted on I smile. Because you and I all know that the end of prohibition is very near. The rest will work itself out.:woohoo:
 

armedoldhippy

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You're probally right, whos to say where the extract came from?
Heh.. You can smoke weed legally!. But we really want you to buy our stuff. Or only consume forms we approve of. WTF?
Honestly, what do they expect people to do with large amounts of trim?.
Meh.. Its all good, I'm just happy that OR is going to put it to vote.[/quote } LARGE amounts I dunno about, but I got a cat that will sit next to me & eat small leaves as long as I will hand them to her...:tiphat:
as long as they approve of good buds & hash, I wouldn't have a quarrel with them. TN is supposed to consider re-authorizing medical pot again next year. we had it for a time in the mid 80s & I don't want anyone out there to do anything stupid & make medical pot users look like useless ass stoners between now & then, got it?:biggrin:
 
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theJointedOne

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Dunno, guys. This & the situation in WA look like a fallback position for prohibitionist politicos. If it has to be legal, damn it, then they intend to make it as expensive & hard to get as they can, maintain the black market & sell it to the voters as something it's not.

If they can get a strong majority to vote for it not knowing what it is, they lock it in for at least 4 years.

A64 is far from perfect, but this is about as close to pretend legalization as they can make it. I doubt that the Oregon cannabis community had much input at all.

Couldnt have said it better, very well put. Thanks for sharing
 

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