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Storm Shadow

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http://www.globalresearch.ca/compan...es-to-drill-shale-gas-in-east-ukraine/5393403

Company In Which US Vice President Joe Biden’s Son Is Director Prepares To Drill Shale Gas In East Ukraine

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Recall what we said earlier today: the proxy Ukraine war just like that in Syria preceding it, “is all about energy.”
Recall also the following chart showing Ukraine’s shale gas deposits, keeping in mind that the Dnieper-Donets basin which lies in the hotly contested eastern part of the nation and where as everyone knows by now a bloody civil war is raging, is the major oil and gas producing region of Ukraine accounting for approximately 90 per cent of Ukrainian production and according to EIA may have 42 tcf of shale gas resources technically recoverable from 197 tcf of risked shale gas in place.

Finally, recall our story from May that Joe Biden’s son, Hunter, just joined the board of the largest Ukraine gas producer Burisma Holdings. From the press release:
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R. Hunter Biden will be in charge of the Holdings’ legal unit and will provide support for the Company among international organizations. On his new appointment, he commented: “Burisma’s track record of innovations and industry leadership in the field of natural gas means that it can be a strong driver of a strong economy in Ukraine. As a new member of the Board, I believe that my assistance in consulting the Company on matters of transparency, corporate governance and responsibility, international expansion and other priorities will contribute to the economy and benefit the people of Ukraine.”
R. Hunter Biden is also a well-known public figure. He is chairman of the Board of the World Food Programme U.S.A., together with the world’s largest humanitarian organization, the United Nations World Food Programme. In this capacity he offers assistance to the poor in developing countries, fighting hunger and poverty, and helping to provide food and education to 300 million malnourished children around the world.
Company Background:
Burisma Holdings is a privately owned oil and gas company with assets in Ukraine and operating in the energy market since 2002. To date, the company holds a portfolio with permits to develop fields in the Dnieper-Donets, the Carpathian and the Azov-Kuban basins. In 2013, the daily gas production grew steadily and at year-end amounted to 11.6 thousand BOE (barrels of oil equivalent – incl. gas, condensate and crude oil), or 1.8 million m3 of natural gas. The company sells these volumes in the domestic market through traders, as well as directly to final consumers.
Now put it all together and what happens next should be rather clear.
* * *
Still confused? It’s very simple, really.
In a nutshell Ukraine (or rather its puppetmasters) has decided to let no crisis (staged or otherwise) or rather civil war, go to waste, and while the fighting rages all around, Ukrainian troopers are helping to install shale gas production equipment near the east Ukrainian town of Slavyansk, which was bombed and shelled for the three preceding months, according to local residents cited by Itar Tass. The reason for the scramble?
Under peacetime, the process was expected to take many years, during which Europe would be under the energy dictatorship of Putin. But throw in some civil war and few will notice let alone care that a process which was expected to take nearly a decade if not longer while dealing with broad popular objections to fracking, may instead be completed in months!
Civilians protected by Ukrainian army are getting ready to install drilling rigs. More equipment is being brought in,” they said, adding that the military are encircling the future extraction area.
The people of Slavyansk, which is located in the heart of the Yzovka shale gas field, staged numerous protest actions in the past against its development. They even wanted to call in a referendum on that subject. Environmentalists are particularly concerned with the consequences of hydrofracing, a method used for shale gas extraction, because it implies the use of extremely toxic chemical agents which can poison not only subsoil waters but also the atmosphere. Experts claim that not a single country in the world has invented a method of utilization of harmful toxic agents in the process of development of shale gas deposits.
Countries like the Czech Republic, the Netherlands and France have given up plans to develop shale gas deposits in their territories.
Not only them but also all-important Germany, which two weeks ago announced it would halt shale-gas drilling for the next seven years over groundwater pollution concerns.
Which clearly makes Ukraine, potentially the last place with massive shale gas deposits and no drilling ban, quite valuable to those who want to develop a major source of shale gas, one which reduces Europe’s reliance on Russian gas even more, yet one whose future depends on one simple question: who controls East Ukraine?
Because what better way to accelerate “next steps” than to start drilling for gas in the middle of the Donetsk republic as a civil war is waging in all directions, and where public mood has shifted decidedly against the local “separatists” in the aftermath of the MH-17 tragedy.
The punchline: who will develop the gas field in conjunction with Shell (jointly owned by the Netherlands and the UK: the two countries that loathe Putin the most in the aftermath of the MH-17 disaster) which in May 2012 announced a tender for the right to develop the Yuzovka shale gas deposit?
Burisma, Ukraine’s oil and gas production holdings, also has the right to develop the shale gas fields in the Dnieper-Donetsk basin of Eastern Ukraine. The same Burisma where R. Hunter Biden, Joseph’s son, was appointed a director two months ago.
 

Storm Shadow

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Doesn't real life ...the more you begin to understand it... feel more and more like the board game RISK... stack your team and just steam roll over everyone for complete conquest and domination
 

Green lung

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There is about to be a crazy ass battle, Tank vs Tank, APCS ect!


The Russian Mercs keep getting more tanks and more Arty everyday, 10 tanks came in from Russia just last night. Putin doesn't want to give this up.






.
 

RetroGrow

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What do Kosovo, Korea, and Afghanistan all have in Common?
10+ TRILLION DOLLARS IN RARE EARTH ELEMENTS

Food for thought... China has 90% + of all of the worlds REE... they are very conservative about them and control the market very tight...

REE is crucial to all modern tech that we use

http://www.mining.com/largest-known-rare-earth-deposit-discovered-in-north-korea-86139/

Largest known rare earth deposit discovered in North Korea


My U.S Govt is all about jacking you for all your wealth ... str8 Mafia Gangsta

Just look at the founding of the Country.... Millions upon Millions of Native Americans killed...and the story we are all fed is Thanksgiving!! lol

Rare earths are not as rare as you have been led to believe. Two, three years ago, this hype about rare earths began. Rare earth stocks skyrocketed. Now, every one of them has crashed and burned. Molycorp, the biggest rare earth producer in the world had a stock price of $170 per share at the height of the mania. Now, it's $2 a share.
 

Elmer Bud

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There is about to be a crazy ass battle, Tank vs Tank, APCS ect!


The Russian Mercs keep getting more tanks and more Arty everyday, 10 tanks came in from Russia just last night. Putin doesn't want to give this up.






.

Source ?
 

Elmer Bud

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lessee here...China was also involved in Korea, Viet Nam, Tibet. Russia was also involved in Viet Nam, Afghanistan & sold weapons systems in many others. or do you only see blame for what the US does? if you don't see Russia involved in other countries, it is because you are willfully blind or ??? pick one or the other...:ying:
our imbecilic politicians dragged many of the SA countries into our ignorant "war on drugs", not the citizens. you are barking up the wrong tree with many of your assertions...

G`day AOH

I will concede Afghanistan to Russian aggression .
Vietnam War was started by ... False Flag .
Gulf of Tompkin incident .

In 2005, an internal National Security Agency historical study was declassified; it concluded[7] that the Maddox had engaged the North Vietnamese Navy on August 2, but that there were no North Vietnamese naval vessels present during the incident of August 4. The report stated regarding August 2:

It was originally claimed by the National Security Agency that the second Tonkin Gulf incident occurred on August 4, 1964, as another sea battle, but instead may have involved "Tonkin Ghosts"[6] (false radar images) and not actual NVN torpedo boat attacks.

Arab Spring was US regime changing mechanism . And look how that`s working out ...

re the picking sides . Two wars in Iraq , one in Afghanistan , drones killing women and kids by remote control . It not that hard to choose is it ?

Thanks for sharin

EB .
 
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Hermanthegerman

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An old chimpanzee Lady that was in good trainng with signs of words was asked, what she thinks what dead means, she said ,: cave, comfortable, good bye (höhle, gemütlich, auf wiedersehen)

Thats realy interesting Are we animals, what do we or they know, is Gaza/Syria/Ukraine realy important?
 

gaiusmarius

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There is about to be a crazy ass battle, Tank vs Tank, APCS ect!


The Russian Mercs keep getting more tanks and more Arty everyday, 10 tanks came in from Russia just last night. Putin doesn't want to give this up.






.

more social media intelligence passed on by the state department? or do we get to see the satellite images this time? link?
 

Elmer Bud

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http://www.globalresearch.ca/compan...es-to-drill-shale-gas-in-east-ukraine/5393403

Company In Which US Vice President Joe Biden’s Son Is Director Prepares To Drill Shale Gas In East Ukraine

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Recall what we said earlier today: the proxy Ukraine war just like that in Syria preceding it, “is all about energy.”
Recall also the following chart showing Ukraine’s shale gas deposits, keeping in mind that the Dnieper-Donets basin which lies in the hotly contested eastern part of the nation and where as everyone knows by now a bloody civil war is raging, is the major oil and gas producing region of Ukraine accounting for approximately 90 per cent of Ukrainian production and according to EIA may have 42 tcf of shale gas resources technically recoverable from 197 tcf of risked shale gas in place.
[URL=http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2014/07/Dnieper%20Donetsk%20shale%20basin_0.jpg]View Image[/URL]
Finally, recall our story from May that Joe Biden’s son, Hunter, just joined the board of the largest Ukraine gas producer Burisma Holdings. From the press release:
View ImageR. Hunter Biden will be in charge of the Holdings’ legal unit and will provide support for the Company among international organizations. On his new appointment, he commented: “Burisma’s track record of innovations and industry leadership in the field of natural gas means that it can be a strong driver of a strong economy in Ukraine. As a new member of the Board, I believe that my assistance in consulting the Company on matters of transparency, corporate governance and responsibility, international expansion and other priorities will contribute to the economy and benefit the people of Ukraine.”
R. Hunter Biden is also a well-known public figure. He is chairman of the Board of the World Food Programme U.S.A., together with the world’s largest humanitarian organization, the United Nations World Food Programme. In this capacity he offers assistance to the poor in developing countries, fighting hunger and poverty, and helping to provide food and education to 300 million malnourished children around the world.
Company Background:
Burisma Holdings is a privately owned oil and gas company with assets in Ukraine and operating in the energy market since 2002. To date, the company holds a portfolio with permits to develop fields in the Dnieper-Donets, the Carpathian and the Azov-Kuban basins. In 2013, the daily gas production grew steadily and at year-end amounted to 11.6 thousand BOE (barrels of oil equivalent – incl. gas, condensate and crude oil), or 1.8 million m3 of natural gas. The company sells these volumes in the domestic market through traders, as well as directly to final consumers.
Now put it all together and what happens next should be rather clear.
* * *
Still confused? It’s very simple, really.
In a nutshell Ukraine (or rather its puppetmasters) has decided to let no crisis (staged or otherwise) or rather civil war, go to waste, and while the fighting rages all around, Ukrainian troopers are helping to install shale gas production equipment near the east Ukrainian town of Slavyansk, which was bombed and shelled for the three preceding months, according to local residents cited by Itar Tass. The reason for the scramble?
Under peacetime, the process was expected to take many years, during which Europe would be under the energy dictatorship of Putin. But throw in some civil war and few will notice let alone care that a process which was expected to take nearly a decade if not longer while dealing with broad popular objections to fracking, may instead be completed in months!
Civilians protected by Ukrainian army are getting ready to install drilling rigs. More equipment is being brought in,” they said, adding that the military are encircling the future extraction area.
The people of Slavyansk, which is located in the heart of the Yzovka shale gas field, staged numerous protest actions in the past against its development. They even wanted to call in a referendum on that subject. Environmentalists are particularly concerned with the consequences of hydrofracing, a method used for shale gas extraction, because it implies the use of extremely toxic chemical agents which can poison not only subsoil waters but also the atmosphere. Experts claim that not a single country in the world has invented a method of utilization of harmful toxic agents in the process of development of shale gas deposits.
Countries like the Czech Republic, the Netherlands and France have given up plans to develop shale gas deposits in their territories.
Not only them but also all-important Germany, which two weeks ago announced it would halt shale-gas drilling for the next seven years over groundwater pollution concerns.
Which clearly makes Ukraine, potentially the last place with massive shale gas deposits and no drilling ban, quite valuable to those who want to develop a major source of shale gas, one which reduces Europe’s reliance on Russian gas even more, yet one whose future depends on one simple question: who controls East Ukraine?
Because what better way to accelerate “next steps” than to start drilling for gas in the middle of the Donetsk republic as a civil war is waging in all directions, and where public mood has shifted decidedly against the local “separatists” in the aftermath of the MH-17 tragedy.
The punchline: who will develop the gas field in conjunction with Shell (jointly owned by the Netherlands and the UK: the two countries that loathe Putin the most in the aftermath of the MH-17 disaster) which in May 2012 announced a tender for the right to develop the Yuzovka shale gas deposit?
Burisma, Ukraine’s oil and gas production holdings, also has the right to develop the shale gas fields in the Dnieper-Donetsk basin of Eastern Ukraine. The same Burisma where R. Hunter Biden, Joseph’s son, was appointed a director two months ago.

G`day Stormie

Google Black Sea gas pipeline ...
That is more pivotal in this conflict than a deposit of Shale Gas .
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By passes Ukraine . Comes up from under the Black Sea in Bulgaria . Less interaction with NATO with that route = more profits to GAZPROM .

Makes Crimea very , very important territory .

Thanks for sharin

EB .
 
An old chimpanzee Lady that was in good trainng with signs of words was asked, what she thinks what dead means, she said ,: cave, comfortable, good bye (höhle, gemütlich, auf wiedersehen)

Thats realy interesting Are we animals, what do we or they know, is Gaza/Syria/Ukraine realy important?
I agree with the spirit of your message whole-heartedly. The thing is they are important as sovereign people and should be left the **** alone. Ukraine is the new Berlin, unfortunately, or maybe fortunately because I hear Berlin is a cool city.
 
Makes Crimea very , very important territory . [I/]

I think moving forward, Crimea can be counted as Russian. That bus left the station.
 
Rare earths are not as rare as you have been led to believe. Two, three years ago, this hype about rare earths began. Rare earth stocks skyrocketed. Now, every one of them has crashed and burned. Molycorp, the biggest rare earth producer in the world had a stock price of $170 per share at the height of the mania. Now, it's $2 a share.

But Rare earth elements would take on greater value if world currency is devalued or destabilized. How much would gold be worth if it was determined that the Fed does not have gold deposits in vaults? It is ironic, given how much the public distrusts banks, that private bank is given task of safe-keeping so much of world gold supply.
 
I keep reading that the State Dept released a 4-page document that includes pictures showing, blah. I can't find this document or pictures anywhere. Can someone post link if they have one?nevermind docs not relevant to this topic
 
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armedoldhippy

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the true value of gold is in its ability to substitute for lead when you really need to shoot someone. other than that, it is an artificially valued product with no damn use whatsoever except for use as fillings in teeth. clean water & salt (along with lead, gunpowder, primers, and vegetable seeds) will be MUCH more valuable...
 

armedoldhippy

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there are a few images released, one of which is on an AP report out on MSN using satellite pix. of course, we all KNOW that they are fakes to make peace-loving Russia look bad, right? :biggrin: I don't blame Russia for not wanting the Ukraine to develop those natural gas fields & selling it on the open market. it would destroy Russias ability to bully its neighbors by threatening to cut off natural gas/raising the cost exorbitantly. without that, all they have are their weapons. and EVERYONE has guns, tanks, rockets etc...
 

gaiusmarius

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there are a few images released, one of which is on an AP report out on MSN using satellite pix. of course, we all KNOW that they are fakes to make peace-loving Russia look bad, right? :biggrin: I don't blame Russia for not wanting the Ukraine to develop those natural gas fields & selling it on the open market. it would destroy Russias ability to bully its neighbors by threatening to cut off natural gas/raising the cost exorbitantly. without that, all they have are their weapons. and EVERYONE has guns, tanks, rockets etc...

about time they provide satellite pics, got the link by chance?

as for the gas story, i can tell you have not been following the gas situation yourself as you'd know that Ukraine got a special discount for gas and even the price they set recently is under the normal market price. this according to the EU's own admission. in fact Ukraine owes close to 3 billion for gas, even when they stopped paying after the revolution, Russia kept on delivering it's gas. any serious research into this will show you that gaz prom has been scrupulous about sticking to it's contracts. it was only after many chances that Russia finally implemented a prepay system for any new gas deliveries, because Kiev just refused to pay anything at all.

talking about blackmail, wasn't it Kiev who threatened to blow up the pipeline leading to Europe? they also said that Russia needs to pay 12x as much as they pay now for the gas transiting through Ukraine else they will close the taps, despite existing contracts guaranteeing the safe transit of gas.

but there is absolutely gas involved in this war, like i mentioned earlier, there have been new gas fields discovered in western Ukraine. the pipelines to Europe are also part of the reason for this conflict, but when it comes right down to it i think Russia is dead set against a direct neighbor being involved with nato. they don't want Ukraine to be in any kind of relationship with nato, as it's just too close for comfort. nato has declared them to be the enemy so i'm not surprised they don't want them on the border. don't think the US would accept a enemy country to set up shop in Mexico or Canada.

but yeah any satellite or radar footage would be most interesting to see, been hoping to see the satellite pics the US has of the event.
 

gaiusmarius

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why the talking heads all say the same thing

why the talking heads all say the same thing

this helps to explain the unified views in the msm. it's all owned by 5 corporations now.

When Media Mergers Limit More Than Competition

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/26/b...arrow-already-dwindling-competition.html?_r=0

The much-admired Supreme Court Justice Hugo Black may be rolling in his grave at the prospect of a merger between 21st Century Fox and Time Warner Inc., which would reduce control of the major Hollywood studios to five owners, from six, and major television producers to four, from five.

“The widest possible dissemination of information from diverse and antagonistic sources is essential to the welfare of the public,” he wrote in the majority opinion that decided a 1945 antitrust case involving major newspaper publishers and The Associated Press. “The First Amendment affords not the slightest support for the contention that a combination to restrain trade in news and views has any constitutional immunity.”


…………………….


After all, the rise of Netflix and the popularity of YouTube demonstrate that anyone can make successful original programming in the freewheeling digital era. And even as television producers have consolidated, critics have hailed a new “golden age” of television.

But this ignores the fact that in 1983, 50 companies owned 90 percent of the media consumed by Americans. By 2012, just six companies — including Fox (then part of News Corporation) and Time Warner — controlled that 90 percent, according to testimony before the House Judiciary Committee examining Comcast’s acquisition of NBCUniversal.

follow the link to read the whole thing.
 

armedoldhippy

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NATO too close for comfort? like Germany? with ICBMs in submarines all over the world, a few tanks/troops on a military state like Russias border does not look like much of a reason to worry. what, you think the Ukraine is going to invade? :laughing: from what I see, Mexico IS an unfriendly nation, & it is our southern border. Cuba, a Russian satellite, is less than 100 miles from the US. without Russian aid, Cuba would starve to death. now, in the interest of fairness, many of Cuba & Mexicos problems lie with this countries politics. the "war on drugs" (privacy rights, actually) is causing most of Mexicos problems. over 60% of the cartels cash flow comes from weed being illegal here. take their money away, they are a much smaller problem. I feel for Cuba, actually. just one more example of why communism is a pretty bad idea.
 
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