Stocking the Plantry: Chucks, Yucks and a Few F*ck-Ups

[wildgrow]

I don't look forward to twice a day. Coco is the next logical step for my circumstances though. Do you think there will be any issues if I mix the nutes for both feedings at the same time? How about if I bubble the jugs for the latter feeding, any difference? I don't see how but since Im going total newb again...

Thanks for pointing out the organics in coco thingy there. I think my cal/mag is Gen Organics. Had to split the bottle for up and downstairs and I don't have the original anymore. Ill have to hit the shop tomorrow.

It is getting jungly in there. Whatcha mean? My cam is as shitty as ever And this bulb is the most orange hps ever. Its so bad that I cant color balance the pics at all. However, you are in luck - taking some shots tonight. Just the important girls and a few bonus shots.

If you get a chance, go take a peek at my Crap OD girls.

 

[Arthritis_sucks]

No need for benneficials or organics - coco isn't a good medium for organics - holds too much calcium and it throws the whole system off balance for the microbes, best stick with promix

Benne's work wonders in coco. This is so far from the truth.

Still respect ya in the morn LyryC

 

[Burnside GC]

Got two packs, if HOL IS DEAD I will F2 and server fund em

 

[Arthritis_sucks]

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[Arthritis_sucks]

I don't look forward to twice a day. Coco is the next logical step for my circumstances though. Do you think there will be any issues if I mix the nutes for both feedings at the same time? How about if I bubble the jugs for the latter feeding, any difference? I don't see how but since Im going total newb again...

Thanks for pointing out the organics in coco thingy there. I think my cal/mag is Gen Organics. Had to split the bottle for up and downstairs and I don't have the original anymore. Ill have to hit the shop tomorrow.

It is getting jungly in there. Whatcha mean? My cam is as shitty as ever And this bulb is the most orange hps ever. Its so bad that I cant color balance the pics at all. However, you are in luck - taking some shots tonight. Just the important girls and a few bonus shots.

If you get a chance, go take a peek at my Crap OD girls.

You can mix the nutes for both feedings. Ph at 5.8 cause the ph will rise sometimes depending on what nutes used. With 6/9 it rises so I start at 5.8 if im not gonna be home till next day or after second feeding. A ph swing to 6.2 is benneficial since you are getting a better range of available nutes.

Edit: the bigger the res the less the ph swing.

 

[wildgrow]

Got two packs, if HOL IS DEAD I will F2 and server fund em

2 packs of... MM?

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Sorry, gotta wait for lights off to get some shots. The hps just washes everything out. Ive got these for y'all in the meantime.

My very 1st coco plants. They were in dirt. Got most if it rinsed out of the roots - itll have to do.

Back left is Vitality #1. Back middle is the last BS. Back and front right are MMs. And front left is SLH.

Clones and seedlings on deck on deck. Rundown - SLH, MM, Bodacious, many StrawDs, Deep Chunkolate, Rendezvous (Love Cheese x MM), and MM f2.

Chuckers.

The 2 on the left are BSs, back right SLH and front right (just joining the ladies today) BB x C99 stud.

 

[tleaf jr.]

looking good wild , cant wait to see what you do with the coco

 

[wildgrow]

I have to admit that Im a tad bit apprehensive. Glad so many experienced people are at my fingertips.

As promised, bad pics. Don't bother expanding them, it only makes it worse. Didn't get a useful shot of MM unfortunately.

2 Straw Ds

SLH - This is the least degree of clawing Ive gotten out of her. Me be learnin.

 

[Buddler]

WG Your SLH pheno is a fussy girl ,but worth it hey ,I still got two different ones going too one of them I can really hit with nutes got more of a grapefruit smell to her.Buddler

 

[wildgrow]

WG Your SLH pheno is a fussy girl ,but worth it hey ,I still got two different ones going too one of them I can really hit with nutes got more of a grapefruit smell to her.Buddler

Yes she is. Nute sensitive in general and N sensitive in particular. She always looks her happiest when N is minimized and her pot is dry. Even now, with watered down feedings, she is dark and clawed. I really have to experiment with her nutes a little more.

Whats the profile of the other one like?

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Took a bunch of macros tonight. Ill get them loaded and posted tomorrow.

 

[wildgrow]

Did I type 'macros'? Ooops, I meant 'smudges' - a whole slew of them. Ill try again tomorrow.

 

[LyryC]

Benne's work wonders in coco. This is so far from the truth.

Still respect ya in the morn LyryC

May you kindly indulge us in your wisdom? Im always open to learn and honestly man I got a lot of great bennies just DYING to be used lol

Got two packs, if HOL IS DEAD I will F2 and server fund em

wut strain? Thank you. :Respect:

You can mix the nutes for both feedings. Ph at 5.8 cause the ph will rise sometimes depending on what nutes used. With 6/9 it rises so I start at 5.8 if im not gonna be home till next day or after second feeding. A ph swing to 6.2 is benneficial since you are getting a better range of available nutes.

Edit: the bigger the res the less the ph swing.

I ph my 6.9 to 5.8 and i mix 10 gallons a day. and use all 10 lol.

the PH holds steady within 24 hours, I haven't yet taken it longer.

No air pump - although I used to do that with advanced nutrients because that shit would go bad and stink over night....

I always feed 5.8 pH - is there a swing within the medium that takes place so that the nutrients are used up? Or should I be manually and over hte course of time - in incraments scale up the PH to peak bloom and then keep it there? or go back down? cause I don't want ot flush for two weeks liek I used ot before, I want to feed 0.1 EC less every day till their at 0.5 or less and then go pure water for 3 days. using R/O.

Thanks Arthritis - what else you got up your sleeve lol

 

[LyryC]

plants look good man!

Is the SLH in coco or soil?

Mmmm Strawberry Diesel

 

[Arthritis_sucks]

May you kindly indulge us in your wisdom? Im always open to learn and honestly man I got a lot of great bennies just DYING to be used lol



wut strain? Thank you. :Respect:



I ph my 6.9 to 5.8 and i mix 10 gallons a day. and use all 10 lol.

the PH holds steady within 24 hours, I haven't yet taken it longer.

No air pump - although I used to do that with advanced nutrients because that shit would go bad and stink over night....

I always feed 5.8 pH - is there a swing within the medium that takes place so that the nutrients are used up? Or should I be manually and over hte course of time - in incraments scale up the PH to peak bloom and then keep it there? or go back down? cause I don't want ot flush for two weeks liek I used ot before, I want to feed 0.1 EC less every day till their at 0.5 or less and then go pure water for 3 days. using R/O.

Thanks Arthritis - what else you got up your sleeve lol

There are benne products with high amounts that can deal with chem ferts as long as you re-apply to keep the population up. They do their magic an die off an the new bennes feed off the dead ones in theory. Oregonism is one made by Aurora I believe. Great white is another, which was my fav before i found Cap's Root Pack which has the most on the market. Lets talk bennes. Trichoderma for starters is in most quality coco mediums......bennes. So in that one notion we see that there are beneficial organisms living in coco, why wouldn't others thrive. Keep the population up an your living in a root porn. I've used tarantula by advanced an it rocks in coco also.

Hands are getting numb so bare with the typo's as I haven't had meds since june 16th. I will answer about ph swing in a few minutes after my coffee.

Edit: got a vault of knowledge that is 22 years deep an its like a file cabinet thats closed till you open a file/procedure. So unless i'm doing it I don't remember it all off the top of my head. Been told I know to much.....I said I'm still learning. I went to college for horticulture an was bored back in the day.

Here's the edit.....molasses is essential in coco with beneficial's. Its their grub an they love it.

Rhizosphere........it's the only thi g that the plant cares about besides environment (VPD). How you build up your rhizosphere determines how much food you can shove into your plants. A strong root system=strong plants=resistance to disease an pests, an frosty big nugs.

 

[Arthritis_sucks]

I ph my 6.9 to 5.8 and i mix 10 gallons a day. and use all 10 lol.

the PH holds steady within 24 hours, I haven't yet taken it longer.

No air pump - although I used to do that with advanced nutrients because that shit would go bad and stink over night....

I always feed 5.8 pH - is there a swing within the medium that takes place so that the nutrients are used up? Or should I be manually and over hte course of time - in incraments scale up the PH to peak bloom and then keep it there? or go back down? cause I don't want ot flush for two weeks liek I used ot before, I want to feed 0.1 EC less every day till their at 0.5 or less and then go pure water for 3 days. using R/O.

Thanks Arthritis - what else you got up your sleeve lol

Ph swing
If you look at a chart of available nutes to ph, you will see that at about 6.1-6.2 your at max Nitrogen availability starts. Now take into consideration coco's healthy range of ph 5.8-6.3 an there lies your swing range. So in veg you want more N available so you feed 6.1-6.3 depending on the strain an what she or he tells ya they want. In flower they need more N for the first few weeks while in transition so ya feed at the higher scale of the ph range. And taper down after week 3 or 4 depending on how long of a flower time an how much she wants N through flower.

 

[Buddler]

Yes she is. Nute sensitive in general and N sensitive in particular. She always looks her happiest when N is minimized and her pot is dry. Even now, with watered down feedings, she is dark and clawed. I really have to experiment with her nutes a little more.

Whats the profile of the other one like?

Very similar to yours light feeder for sure I crossed it with a indica I have and really liking the cross still has the slh smell with a shorter stature easier plant to grow as well not so fussy.Bud

 

[BayBHuey]

Wazzup wildgrow

your first grow with coco, really? Well if you dont know coco has a very high CEC cation exchange capacity which is a good thing. You will want to make sure when you water that you water with a flush everytime.

And FYI It is not necessary to water coco unless it is bout to dry out but you can water it multiple times if your trying to push them. But be aware if you dry out coco the remaining nutes in the root zone will dry up as well and will not be washed away and become locked in the coco until you keep the coco damp with a good flush. I am not sure if letting the coco dry out will cause ph problems.

How are you watering? Also whats nutes are you using sorry if I overlooked it.

Hope what I said makes sense, Im a little baked so...sorry LOL



BayBHuey

 

[BayBHuey]

Forgot to mention dont use water with chloramines if your using bennies It will be a waste.

But if you dont have chloramines then use bennies. Use a little unsulphered blackstrap molasses every now and then to keep the bennies happy. Use bennies every 2-3weeks and cut it off bout 3 weeks before harvest.

Its just my 2 cents

BayBHuey

BayBHuey

 

[wildgrow]

Ah well, OK...

Buddler - I should have been more clear. How does your other SLH taste?

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None of the flowering plants are in coco. My vegging plants are, so far so good. Knock on wood.

Chloramine and bennies don't play well together? Guess its no bennies for me. My water is treated with chloramine and UV.

Thanks for the reminders, BayBH. I think Ive got the basics pretty well drilled into my skull. I precharged the coco and added a couple extra mls of cal/mag just to be sure.

Im hand watering GH nutes at 6/9.

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LC - 'I got a lot of great bennies just DYING to be used.'


Hey bro, theyre not looking too bad. Trying to tweak the formula a little to bring down N. Actually, 1st try is bringing everything else up a tiny bit.
Getting the odd leaf or 2 that aren't getting the nutritional support needed - ie. dying yellow leaf lowest on the plants. Nothing worth worrying aboot though, eh?

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And, hey Artie! I did know that bennies work best with chem nutes when reapplied on the regular. Seems Im not too old a dog yet.

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Who wants shitty pics?

StawDs

MM

 

[wildgrow]

BS

And lastly, feverishly finicky females (heh, whats new, right?)

SLHs

Wish I could grow em all outside.