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Gorilla Glue #4

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guineapig

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I always thought, perhaps incorrectly, that the yellowing of the fan leaves at the end of the flowering period was a last ditch effort by the plant to reflect as much light as possible towards the fruits which allow for maximum seed ripening. It just seemed that some strains did this more than others, perhaps the Indica dominant strains that evolved in lower light conditions, and thus it is a "genetic" event that is not dependent on soil nutrients.

Some people don't feed for the last 2 weeks, both fertilizer solution and CO2, and I guess you could call that "starving" the plant, but really the use of that word makes it seem overly dramatic.

I just don't want a beginner to see yellowing leaves and immediately jump to the conclusion that something is wrong. Yes, it is possible that something is wrong, such as nutrient lock-out due to pH issues, or P deficiency, but many strains just do this for an unknown reason. Again, I could be wrong, and you could argue that yellow leaves are an indication of some sort of environmental stress and therefore should be investigated thoroughly.

Maybe this is off-topic, but I saw a few people discussing it so I thought I would write this.

:ying: kind regards from guineapig :ying:
 

papaduc

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It depends on context of the situation.

If your plant is fully matured and the calyxes are swollen, and you decide to take away the nutrients, then yellowing isn't starving, you're right.

But if the plant is yellow before it's matured and it's on plain water when it needs food to build and swell, then at that point you are starving it of what it needs.

In an indoor environment really you are the one in control of whether the plant yellows and I think it's more a matter of whether you are intending for it to be that way. It should always be in your control.
 
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It depends on context of the situation.

If your plant is fully matured and the calyxes are swollen, and you decide to take away the nutrients, then yellowing isn't starving, you're right.

But if the plant is yellow before it's matured and it's on plain water when it needs food to build and swell, then at that point you are starving it of what it needs.

In an indoor environment really you are the one in control of whether the plant yellows and I think it's more a matter of whether you are intending for it to be that way. It should always be in your control.


Bang on... plants will yellow when ready. Its natural at the end. Plants will yellow even if im still feeding. Good sign to drop nutes lower. Not takin them anyway... imo
 

harry74

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It depends on context of the situation.

If your plant is fully matured and the calyxes are swollen, and you decide to take away the nutrients, then yellowing isn't starving, you're right.

But if the plant is yellow before it's matured and it's on plain water when it needs food to build and swell, then at that point you are starving it of what it needs.

In an indoor environment really you are the one in control of whether the plant yellows and I think it's more a matter of whether you are intending for it to be that way. It should always be in your control.


This is a cutting I´m flowering with 56 days.
I did overwater her and she lost most of her leaves for week 6.

I keep watering her (plain wáter), she keeps drinking. I´ll put her down next sunday with 63 days.
I mean she has no leaf but she is alive.May be she uses the small leaves of the buds....
 

Fly by Night

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In Massachusetts or "en masse"?



Massapequa

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Shcrews

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I'd like to know how those stems got so thick in a month.
What are you feeding those babies?

like i said they were vegged for a month but the glues in that picture are 3 weeks into flower, so almost 2 months since the clones rooted.

anyway the grow medium is coco, and they get fed only House&Garden Aqua Flakes @ 8.5ml/gallon from start to finish. trays flood 1x per day that's all the 10gallons need to drink

coco flood/drain really has an amazing growth rate, and the Aqua Flakes stays stable in the reservoir for weeks at at time so its perfect for me since i visit that garden every 2 weeks
 

Yes4Prop215

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Wow, drama queens man.. I also wonder who the Faux-Josey was!

I'm wondering too, trying to find out the screen name of the supposed imposter so i can do more digging…..i told those drama queens that the creator of GG4 is NOT on IG so they are wrong in their assumptions..
 

Grizz

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I'm wondering too, trying to find out the screen name of the supposed imposter so i can do more digging…..i told those drama queens that the creator of GG4 is NOT on IG so they are wrong in their assumptions..
I did try to sign up on IG a few months ago and there was already someone using joesy whales as a user name so you might start digging there.
 

SirSmokalot

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Makes a lot of sense ... i know alot of cookie grows came out with micro nugs when the roots had hella space and plants were flipped to soon...

yup and the glue and many others do it. since the first glue thread Ive been saying this. gotta let them establish their pots this is why I get 2x stretch or less and not 3x stretch like 3/4 glue growers do.
my plants typically finish at 4ft tall and yield the same as several peoples 7 footers.
my last run of glue I did what I preach against and potted up and flipped within a few days. I got extra stretch, smaller tops and more airy structure. lowers basically were worthless. not typical
did the same with my last run of cookies. smaller buds and about 5-6 less oz than normal off of same sized plants but in bigger containers
I did this to not have to race in to water everynight, but with the change came the losses, which I expected, but was not ideal
never again my drip is hooked up so its established or bust from here out lol
 

RetroGrow

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like i said they were vegged for a month but the glues in that picture are 3 weeks into flower, so almost 2 months since the clones rooted.

anyway the grow medium is coco, and they get fed only House&Garden Aqua Flakes @ 8.5ml/gallon from start to finish. trays flood 1x per day that's all the 10gallons need to drink

coco flood/drain really has an amazing growth rate, and the Aqua Flakes stays stable in the reservoir for weeks at at time so its perfect for me since i visit that garden every 2 weeks

Cool. That explains it. Didn't know you were in coco. Those are the fattest stems I've seen in the glue pictures. Most posters are in soil it seems. Nice job!
 
My glues are actually getting drowned by the girl scout cookies surrounding them. They were all the same height when I flipped them last week so I'm hoping the glues are late stretchers? They are all vigorous but the gsc's around them are just going crazy and shadowing them out with the huge leaves.
 
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