A word of advice for you guys who have ever thought about moving to a friendly state

[Sam the Caveman]

for those interested, I found out all the info about opening a "not for profit collective" at:

http://www.canorml.org/prop/collectivetips.html

so, say if you wanted to start a delivery service, easiest way i think, all you would need is a business license from the city and to pay their requested tax. The business license would establish the structure of the business. You can only be compensated for cannabis from members of the collective.

The link above talks a lot about things to do to stay in the clear from the feds, and what they look for when deciding who to go after.

 

[supermanlives]

my outdoor grows are on rental properties but thats 50 something LBs im gonna have to "divert" to the black market because no way in hell im selling shit to any dispensary and filling out tax forms, etc....or getting lowballed 1500 for something that is easily worth 25 on the underground market...

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ya you get lowballed but you dont always have to fill out any paperwork. i know 2 that pay cash no questions asked. good deal if you got extra and need cash

 

[Dankgravy]

for those interested, I found out all the info about opening a "not for profit collective" at:

http://www.canorml.org/prop/collectivetips.html

so, say if you wanted to start a delivery service, easiest way i think, all you would need is a business license from the city and to pay their requested tax. The business license would establish the structure of the business. You can only be compensated for cannabis from members of the collective.

The link above talks a lot about things to do to stay in the clear from the feds, and what they look for when deciding who to go after.

Delivery services get robbed on the regular. And a lot of counties are trying to interpret the not for profit nature of collectives as "cannot exchange cannabis for money" in any way shape or form..

Collectives get shut down left and right. Even the very few that are actually legitimate

 

[Classic Seeds]

i grew up in cali and left because they have a fee or a tax for everything ,oregon is way cheaper to live finding a job is the hard one if you do not have some kind of specialized skills to get a good job here unemployment is really around 25 or 30 percent so many people have run out of unemployments so they do not get counted in the figures.oregons limit is 6 plants a card 4 cards max for a grower so if your looking to go big oregon is not friendly towards that like cali and a lot of other legal states and taking money for pot as a dispensory is not legal even if they have not started locking people up for running them yet and it will start happening the state attorney general has put all the co-ops and dispensorys on notice that they will be prosicuted for charging for pot to clients its not how its supposed to be here you can charge for materials to grow seeds to grow electricity to grow but what is grown is not to be sold to the card holder its thiers all six plants end of story if you want to stay legal

 

[BigDawg]

what if you had a decent-bigger sized grow in a NON med-state for 3+ years.. with the electric bill being around the same price every year.. then you get busted and they find under 99 plants. Would they say you had the same amount every year before the bust and charge you more or just charge you for what you were busted with on that day?

looks like a lot of the counties in CALI have the 12 immature and 6 mature rule or 24 plants or less. Not worth the move in my opinion. Probably why the ones who want to make decent money are in far north-cal with the 99 plant prescriptions or whatever. I'm not tryna move into someone elses state and blow up an outdoor garden that's known for tweakers and rippers; and not to mention the high price of land.

 

[BasementBreeder]

As I understand it, in the case of People vs Kelley, the CA supreme court struck down those plant limits. Not saying the cops still wouldn't bust you, but you should have a valid affirmative defense if you have the doc's recommendation to grow 99 plants.

I think some locations are attempting to get around this by limiting the number of plants you may grow per location. I wonder if this would stand up in court?

 

[ijim]

What if everyone that was tired of the rulers in 1776 packed up and left? Unfortunately it takes hard times to change the times. The young can be heard louder than us old farts. Those that scream loudest get heard. People don't want thousands of new growers and job hunters moving to their state. Don't run and hide stand your ground and fight for it.

 

[Stoner4Life]

People don't want thousands of new growers and job hunters moving to their state.

well that's too bad then as 'they' don't live somewhere to the exclusion of me or anybody else having the right to be there as well.

 

[IwannatokeNbone]

the cali game is hard id say, its almost better to be somewhere were people havent blown it up yet otherwise u going to have to work, and cali aint all that great of a place imo, north is shitty cold and the south is expensive n overcrowded, id almost rather be somewhere all around cheaper with higher priced weed and just save money, and by that i mean a legal place.

 

[guest86120975]

id almost rather be somewhere all around cheaper with higher priced weed and just save money.

Okay Broseph...let's switch places. You come here and pay $100 a quarter for Beasters and go to prison for 10 years if you're caught with plants and it's 100 degrees all summer...I will go to nor cal where it's all good to grow 10 pounds in my backyard...and sunny and 70 all summer, sounds like a deal to me

 

[IwannatokeNbone]

Okay Broseph...let's switch places. You come here and pay $100 a quarter for Beasters and go to prison for 10 years if you're caught with plants and it's 100 degrees all summer...I will go to nor cal where it's all good to grow 10 pounds in my backyard...and sunny and 70 all summer, sounds like a deal to me

why would i ever move to ohio.

 

[KSP]

why would i ever move to ohio.

For the clean air and mountains?

 

[rick shaw]

why would i ever move to ohio.

"What's a Cleveland" :Howard the Duck

 

[turbolaser4528]

6 plants mature, 12 immature for most of California.

Is that worth the move? Hmm..


I guess if one gets a place and grows (6) x 1-2lb'ers it can be worthwhile.

3 x 1# lb plants indoors every 4-5 weeks, if its the chronic, ~9k at 3per x 10 crops = 90k annually less expenses.(If you can pull it off n move it)

OR rock (6) 3-4#ers in yer backyard, at ~2000 per # = 36k -48k per year less expenses.

Is it relatively easy to get larger plant scripts? 24 for ex would be much better. 99 would be the best.

IMo, CA is probably best for those who have a regular job, want warm weather, less stress, to grow medicine legally, and maybe donate excess meds for some side cash. Am I wrong?

Maine?

 

[supermanlives]

everyone move to cali asap. when things go bad please put your gear on craigslist i am always looking for a good deal. good luck

 

[supermanlives]

well i see there is a hater LOL the facts are lots of people try and lots fail so why shouldnt i benefit i work with med patients who need stuff cheap... i mean my post even wished them luck. i have met lots of people struggling and a few that lost everything.the ones that succeed are either good growers with good strains or people who can afford to live here without worrying about weed growing as immediate income. i been here on and off 15 years. i take extended vacations now and then. before i move anywhere i like to visit the place for a while. not move blindly expecting everything to be perfect.this way you have reasonable expectations and can study the situation for yourself. asking a question on the net only gives you a starting point imho

 

[Tela]

if anyone thinks moving to cali is a smart idea, wave to the person i just waved goodbye to who just blew 60k trying to hang in the cali grow scene....lasted about 6-7 months...back on the eastcoast..last i heard they said, "we'll it was only 60k"

 

[forty]

come on out fellers.... not enough mids out here. makin the top shelf rare

 

[amatuer hour]

if anyone thinks moving to cali is a smart idea, wave to the person i just waved goodbye to who just blew 60k trying to hang in the cali grow scene....lasted about 6-7 months...back on the eastcoast..last i heard they said, "we'll it was only 60k"

ya but the same could be said of any kind of self-employment. Most people fail.

 

[guest86120975]

I know the convo strayed a bit along the way, but my original intent wasn't to encourage people to "move to cali and go big"...... I'm getting a late start, but I'm not moving to Cali to go big, but rather to live my life in peace...and it's not only about the weed either. It's about being in a better place with much more to do and see, and that is more in line politically with my beliefs and values overall. That's the smart way to approach your big move.